**Official 2015 Free Agency Thread**

:lol Raiders
:lol Cap Space Champions again
:lol Absolutely nobody other than washed-up vets wanting to sign in Oakland again
:lol Philo

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Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE

:lol right, fuck the single biggest reason our secondary didn't massively suck this year like it did the previous 4-5 years. Revis is way more valuable than McCourty.

The only reason people are even trying to compare McCourty's impact to Revis's is because Revis was signed as a free agent while McCourty is a :cryBelichick guy!:cry



Revis took less money to come to NE last year (he had bigger offers), and I'm not sure how Kraft is cheap. He's spent money whenever Belichick has wanted him to, and the Patriots are struggling to get under the cap right now.

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well mccourty is younger and we have no safeties while we have a plethora of corners. Also just signing Revis to the 12M that seems fair money for him, would cost us 17 or so against the cap. It's not as if i want revis to be gone, it's that we don't have the money to keep them. Also i don't see the upside in paying more than the golden standard for the position is, that is Sherman (12.2) and Thomas (7.4).

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Originally Posted by Raven

well mccourty is younger and we have no safeties while we have a plethora of corners. Also just signing Revis to the 12M that seems fair money for him, would cost us 17 or so against the cap. It's not as if i want revis to be gone, it's that we don't have the money to keep them. Also i don't see the upside in paying more than the golden standard for the position is, that is Sherman (12.2) and Thomas (7.4).

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:lol we have a plethora if shitty corners who have proven they blow at trying to cover #1 receivers. Why do you ignore this when you say "plethora of corners!"?

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Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE

:lol we have a plethora if shitty corners who have proven they blow at trying to cover #1 receivers. Why do you ignore this when you say "plethora of corners!"?

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because i don't think it's really relevant, i don't see exactly what is the alternative.. sign revis for a 20M cap hit or pick up his 20M option that would cost us 25M then what?

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Originally Posted by Raven

because i don't think it's really relevant, i don't see exactly what is the alternative.. sign revis for a 20M cap hit or pick up his 20M option that would cost us 25M then what?

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:lol so you're saying because premier talent at CB is really expensive then we just need to settle for having a shitty secondary that can't stop anyone?

What proof do you have that Revis would need to be signed for a $20MM cap hit? The $5MM cap hit that'll happen for cutting him is a sunk cost either way so it shouldn't factor into any decisions.

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Originally Posted by Raven

because i don't think it's really relevant, i don't see exactly what is the alternative.. sign revis for a 20M cap hit or pick up his 20M option that would cost us 25M then what?

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So having elite corners vs average corners is irrelevant? :lmao yeah because we won so many titles without Ty Law/Asante Samuel. And of course it's not like the entire momentum of two AFC title games shifted when Talib got hurt in them.

You spend the fuckin money for Revis. It's that simple. The only issue is not giving him too many years.

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Originally Posted by monosylab1k

So having elite corners vs average corners is irrelevant? :lmao yeah because we won so many titles without Ty Law/Asante Samuel. And of course it's not like the entire momentum of two AFC title games shifted when Talib got hurt in them.

You spend the fuckin money for Revis. It's that simple. The only issue is not giving him too many years.

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But we have a PLETHORA of average corners! Nevermind the fact that you're only allowed to have 11 players on the field so having 4+ corners who suck as starters but play well as nickel/dime corners doesn't fucking matter, we have a PLETHORA!

Demaryius Thomas is going to be mindfucked by how many different corners he can torch in a single game!

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Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE

:lol so you're saying because premier talent at CB is really expensive then we just need to settle for having a shitty secondary that can't stop anyone?

What proof do you have that Revis would need to be signed for a $20MM cap hit? The $5MM cap hit that'll happen for cutting him is a sunk cost either way so it shouldn't factor into any decisions.

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let's not kid ourselves, if he is cut, it resolves in 20M cap savings, if he is resigned at best it could create 8M and i strongly doubt that is even possible considering the jets will make an absurd push, that means we don't even have the money for the rookies. Assuming MCCourty goes away, i really don't see where else could we save money.. the next man up is browner with 5.5 and i don't really see what good would that do, and then aside of mayo, is really just peanuts of cap saving..

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Originally Posted by monosylab1k

So having elite corners vs average corners is irrelevant? :lmao yeah because we won so many titles without Ty Law/Asante Samuel. And of course it's not like the entire momentum of two AFC title games shifted when Talib got hurt in them.

You spend the fuckin money for Revis. It's that simple. The only issue is not giving him too many years.

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so you sign him and if he get's injured you throw away the season?

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Originally Posted by Raven

let's not kid ourselves, if he is cut, it resolves in 20M cap savings, if he is resigned at best it could create 8M and i strongly doubt that is even possible considering the jets will make an absurd push, that means we don't even have the money for the rookies. Assuming MCCourty goes away, i really don't see where else could we save money.. the next man up is browner with 5.5 and i don't really see what good would that do, and then aside of mayo, is really just peanuts of cap saving..

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If he's resigned with a backloaded contract it would be $10MM cap savings next year, which is totally possible given the contract Sherman recently got as the best CB in the game.

Also...
cut Dennard and it's $1.5MM cap savings
cut Homamdfkhjdwkjnedwf or whatever his name is and it's $1.4MM cap savings
cut Tavon Wilson for $1MM cap savings
cut Mayo after June 1st and it's $6MM+ cap savings
cut Amendola after June 1st and it's $4MM+ cap savings

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Originally Posted by Raven

so you sign him and if he get's injured you throw away the season?

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:lmao by this logic, we should also cut Tom Brady.

Why pay him all that money to just so you throw away the season if he gets injured!!!

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Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE

If he's resigned with a backloaded contract it would be $10MM cap savings next year, which is totally possible given the contract Sherman recently got as the best CB in the game.

Also...
cut Dennard and it's $1.5MM cap savings
cut Homamdfkhjdwkjnedwf or whatever his name is and it's $1.4MM cap savings
cut Tavon Wilson for $1MM cap savings
cut Mayo after June 1st and it's $6MM+ cap savings
cut Amendola after June 1st and it's $4MM+ cap savings

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i don't really think he is worthy of being paid as much as sherman, but let's assume he is, i'm perfectly fine with him getting paid that amount. Now i doubt Revis is considering he is going to get a lot more on the market (according to reports which obviously are just reports), he is also at the age where this is likely his last big contract. I don't know, i'd like to think he'll take a discount, but i strongly doubt it and frankly, i wouldn't do it either. Assuming Revis is not possible to sign, i'd rather at least see MCCourty signed, especially since (again, according to reports) on the market there's nothing and the draft class is nonexistent.

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Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE

:lmao by this logic, we should also cut Tom Brady.

Why pay him all that money to just so you throw away the season if he gets injured!!!

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not really.

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Originally Posted by Raven

not really.

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Sure it is, both players have an almost identical injury history too.

Philly tried throwing 10 mill to Kareem Jackson.

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Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE

Sure it is, both players have an almost identical injury history too.

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the market is not comparable and there's a different number of roster spots reserved for the position.

Suh signing with Miami.

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Originally Posted by Blizzardwizard

Suh signing with Miami.

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:cry But, but, the Raiders have so much cap space! No way they don't get Suh! :cry

:lol Philo

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Originally Posted by Clipper Nation

:cry But, but, the Raiders have so much cap space! No way they don't get Suh! :cry

:lol Philo

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Pretty sure he said all along that Miami was the favorite to get him...

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Originally Posted by Clipper Nation

:cry But, but, the Raiders have so much cap space! No way they don't get Suh! :cry

:lol Philo

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It doesn't matter, we'll just go and get Co-oh. :cry

:lol

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Originally Posted by djohn2oo8

Philly tried throwing 10 mill to Kareem Jackson.

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Wow! So Jackson gave houston a hometown discount taking $8.5 million

Harvin and Wilfork to the raiders? :D

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Originally Posted by Raven

Harvin and Wilfork to the raiders? :D

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:lol