Manu:
5.0 assists per game
2.4 TO/game
Enrique:
4.9 assists per game
2.7 TO/game
:lol $60 million dollars for this French turd
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Manu:
5.0 assists per game
2.4 TO/game
Enrique:
4.9 assists per game
2.7 TO/game
:lol $60 million dollars for this French turd
:lmao..
of course
Enrique will keep playing, its on Pop how many minutes and trying to not kill the pace I think he did a good job with him in the Finals.
manutard: MANU > TP
the enriques: TP > MANU
:lmao
Manu goes for home run passes. Those are more likely to be assists than what Tony does. Tony mostly just passes into the post or runs plays. They are going to have different results, and Manu's play is going to be riddled with turnovers. Manu's court vision is second to none in the league, he just doesn't seem to factor in the opponent. Tony doesn't have good court vision, has a cone of vision, and has to plan ahead.
All very nice and all but...Quote:
Originally Posted by DMC
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Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
I didn't say Manu has more turnovers than Tony. I said his play is riddled with turnovers, ergo "Turnobli". Parker isn't noted for turnovers. Either way, Spurs need both to be healthy and firing on all cylinders to be competitive. If they aren't, Spurs are a middle of the pack team, even with Kawhi playing.
Not surprising that the Manu homers would look at every opportunity to support their guy though.
and Manu averages 4 less minutes than TP.
Manu had costly turnovers more in playoffs then tp
And the foul against Dallas was stupid
Why all the 4 quarter turnovers and blown games if tp was killing the Spurs
He has been out several games
At least Manu's marked as a SG here.
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by ducks
:lol Evita
10+ more turnovers in the 4th than any other Spur :lol
32.1 AST% - Manu
28.4 AST% - Parker
Spurs paying Tony $13 million just so he could give us worse production than 40 year old Manu.
Yet Enrique fanboys take shots at 21 year old Cojo for not being a true PG like Enrique. :lol
the funny thing is even with Evita out the last 2 games. He's still going to lead the spurs in TOs in the 4th by double digits :lol
Hes was the only ballhander in the 4th for an entire month bc Enrique was nursing his sore ass cheek. What do you expect?Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
Im sure he also has triple digit leads in total points and assists over Enrique.
and now we are 2-0 WITHOUT EVITA. batting 100% basically :lol
I'm just glad we have Patty back and Cojo playing at a high level... even if Manu has been the 2nd/3rd best Spur production-wise this season, he needed some rest...Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
Your colt leader, Harlem, is the only one who continuesly shitted on Cojo. Now he's dick riding him. It's who he is. He lives to ride whoever is on a roll... *cough* Lebron :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
But TP leads in total turnovers :lol, or turnovers only count when they happen in the last quarter? :lmao
I thought Manu was done? Oh, wait, this isn't the 2013 NBA finals.
Be nice with TP, he's only the third best PG on the Team right now!
It's only January
:lol..Quote:
Originally Posted by chasky
8 turnovers and a missed FT is the only reason we.... fuck it, can't get through to manustan
Updated numbers after tonight:
Manu:
5.0 Assists per game
2.4 TO/game
Enrique:
4.8 Assists per game
2.7 TO/game
Bonus stat:
Reggie Jackson:
4.9 Assists per game
2.2 TO/game
:lol OKC's backup is a better point guard than our $60 million starter
Manu has ALWAYS been a better passer than Tony.
So is it really a surprise when Manu gets more minutes because Parker has been injured and now shaking the rust off (hopefully) that he gets more assists?
Really?
The amazing thing is that Manu has not broken down... Hopefully. If he plays with a tight back he is going to overcompensate and injure something else. He needs rest. It is now time for Parker to take over the major ball handling duties along with CJ until he regains his game speed. Right now Parker needs to be a manage the game no TO kinda QB. Testing the waters with occassional penetrating moves.
Patience.
Agree completely. And Tony has been the better assist guy for the Spurs (Manu has always been #2 there), so there's no reason he can't be that guy again.Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
With the death of Anthony Mason today due to heart failure from excessive weight gain over the years, would it be irresponsible of the Spurs organization to continue watching Tony Parker destroy his body, tbh?
Basketball aside, as a member of the Spurs family, shouldn't the organization take action and send a message?
Pop and Parker had a talk prior to the Kings game, apparently, but is that enough?
I know many of us have been unhappy with his play on the court, but the man just had a child, I don't want to see him dying at 40, tbh..
:td
It's a valid concern for sure...
Do the spurs have team nutritionist?
I heard T Park is Parker's personal nutritionist, tbh:lol..Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
http://www.spurstalk.com/heat104.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Malik Hairston
this guy?
Lord save us...
:rollinQuote:
Originally Posted by Malik Hairston
:lol
30
Who is that man? :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Quote:
Originally Posted by CitizenDwayne
Too many Alt accounts giving each other handjobs... fail
Would you care to share some recent pictures that back up why you feel this way?
:elephant:elephant
9/10
:lol Deuce leaving his mark, tbh..
Harlem, apo, crew etc. Is the title of this an indication that this the isofficial Harlem crew Tony Parker discussion thread? Or is this just the thread for Tony Parker death dream fan fiction?
Please consider doing the first or else renaming the thread "wherein I ponder on obesity and morbidity of certain nba players who have gained weight"
Plz also note that while I'm not a friend of tpark it's pretty classless to bring a forum member into a discussion without reason. This is pretty low.
stop being a fucking loser.
:lmao that would explain itQuote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Classy thread.
back to back
also parker did not take shots others were hitting
nice that he was not
also when you have a bad groin and hamstring back to back games your jumper will not fall
he did look more confident out there
leonard was on fire
spurs need either leonard or parker on fire
leonard on the road trip was not alot better then tp on the o end
both need to play well against some times to win
lets see what tp does against kings with three days of rest
Such a classless thread....shit is starting to get out of hand.
I totally agree. It's at a point now where some Spurs fans can't even enjoy victories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver&Black
Thanks man. Yeah....at least we get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver&Black
Tony had a nice game against the Kings. Let's see how he plays with the three more days of rest. I am hoping for the best and that they can go on a nice winning streak.
Good try.
Is this approaching xmas level territory? The man broke down after fighting a losing battle for what seemed like too long
Time to ban some people starting threads
Did Tony Parker eat too much during the all-star break?
http://s9.postimg.org/khth3x7sv/Park...t_all_star.png
I mean, his numbers weren't that great pre-All Star week. Post All-Star, he's been horrible. Even his three point shooting has nosedived. Timmy's stepped it up a notch after the all-star game. We've seen Green and Kawhi coming alive the past week. TP's just getting worse and worse though.
:lol I like your sarcasmQuote:
Originally Posted by Silver&Black
poor taste :td
He gave it all back on the other end to a 2nd round PG that was averaging 4.7 ppg prior to facing Porker.Quote:
Originally Posted by TXstbobcat
23% usage rate for a bottom NBA player..Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
No wonder this team is struggling..
Yup. There's only one other NBA starter that's playing as bad as Tony with a similar usage - Enes Kanter. Jazz were horrible with him in their starting lineup. We all saw how much Utah improved after they traded him (4-1). Detroit had a similar success story after removing their cancer. Unfortunately, Pop thinks there's nothing wrong with the Frenchie - dangerous for the Spurs imo. We're going to need everyone to catch fire and start playing at a historic level come playoff time(like last year) in order to offset Tony's terrible play.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Remember kobe in 2001 when he got injured and the Lakers started winning?..He embraced his 2nd banana role after that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
They're both annoying as fuck heroballers but at least Frobe knew when to get the fuck out of Shaq's way during the threepeat. Tony was taking more shots than Duncan when TD was still in his prime and costing us playoff series like '04 Lakers or '06 Mavs. Fast-forward ten years later and he's still doing the same shit and costing us titles(2013 Heat). Frenchie will never learn.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
this is not the tony parker thread
this is the 10000 tp thread this last 5 weeks
stop the hate without him playing well no title
he played well enough in finals to make james guard him so others can step up and beat the other team
WAS pointed out patty mills guard him on 6 on those 10 made field goalsQuote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
Some revisionist history going on here when you mention the Mavs series. Duncan actually took the most FG attempts in that series out of any player on the Spurs. I don't see how Tony got in Duncan's way during that series. The Spurs would have won that series if Manu didn't commit that stupid foul on Dirk towards the end of the 4th quarter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
:tuQuote:
Originally Posted by CitizenDwayne
Here's the big three's numbers against Dallas in 2006:Quote:
Originally Posted by daslicer
http://s5.postimg.org/lz7edl1xz/2006_Mavs_Spurs.png
Two of these guys stepped up against the Mavs. One was highly inefficient and was dragging the offense down. Can you guess who?
take it easy on them brotha...Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
:lol
And Duncan had planar fasciitis, IIRC... That series single-handedly earned Devin Harris a max contract...Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
Again you claimed Parker took more FG attempts than Duncan and that chart shows it not to be true. So I don't know what you are trying to prove. Also hypothetically since you hate Parker who the hell could the Spurs have gotten at that time to replace him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
Will the agenda crew settle this for me. Parker under performs in the playoffs. But Harlem and Apo have previously argued that all point guards under perform in the playoffs. Why are you guys so hung up on this? Which is it?
Oh, and LOL at 42% being terrible. Tony, like Koby, took difficult shots. It was the style of the time to heroball. If parker was as bad as you guys say during his supposed peak why was he the spurs starting point guard and not, say beno udrih. Is the greatest coach of all time somehow duped into point guard obsession? why didn't gino start? Why did we abandon four down to run the offense through an inefficient point guard?
Meh too far
Why do people think pop can't see Tony sucks? Is this fan fiction or a deeply held belief? Isn't it more likely that he's giving Parker ample time to work out his issues given that hes an all time great who deserves such respect. I mean maybe pop is dumb. He's got two good point guards, he could make the switch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
Funny stuff coming from the dyke who gets a hard on for a 12/38 Chimprook performanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
Do you know the diff between % and TS% you stupid fuck? :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
You threw Manu under the bus for that series. The chart shows that Duncan and Manu were pretty damn good (and highly efficient). TP took 38 more shots than Manu and still scored less per game. When you have two guys scoring on ridiculous efficiency(60 TS%) and another scoring at a piss poor 47% TS, it seems strange to blame the guy that actually played well.Quote:
Originally Posted by daslicer
And I was talking about the '04 Lakers when I mentioned TP taking more shots than TD. Frenchie took 22 more shots than Duncan over those six games and had a putrid series as far as efficiency goes(42 TS%).
I don't hate TP. I just find him to be incredibly frustrating to watch in the playoffs...turns into a chucker way too often, makes excuses, has problems running the offense, etcQuote:
Originally Posted by daslicer
Makes it even worse for WB you retard :lmao shot 1/10 from deep that game :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Quit sounding like a used condom, and stick to defending YOUR shit takes :tu
:lol using FG%Quote:
Originally Posted by K...
And yeah, 47 TS% is BAD...that's Iverson-esque.
TS% stands for true shooting percentage you fucking moron. Not three point percentage.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
True Shooting Percentage; the formula is PTS / (2 * TSA). True shooting percentage is a measure of shooting efficiency that takes into account field goals, 3-point field goals, and free throws. True Shooting Attempts; the formula is FGA + 0.44 * FTA.
Glossary | Basketball-Reference.com
www.basketball-reference.com/about/glossary.html
It looks like you picked at stat that punishes parker for things he wasn't asked to do in the offense.
Tony shoots 42%, he doesn't shoot any threes and shoots 75% from the line. What is the problem? He's the second option that year, third if Manu was playing. Ya'll are cherry picking stats to show things that just aren't there.
No shit numnuts, three point shots are a part of TS%... Chimpbrook shot 1/10 the game he gave you children in vs PHXQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
Quit contradicting yourself. You go at a player for shooting bad, but dick ride another just because your midget crew does it
also his freethrows faggot. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Quiet down downy. I'm talking to someone about stats... Don't make me bring up the thread where you couldn't understand how Kawhi was one of the shittiest drivers in the league... And you needed someone to explain to you what my stat meant :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by dabom
ITs revisionist fan history to suggest parker dictated manu's bench role.You pretend coaches and GMs can go back to 2006 and play Manu heavy minutes. Then the stats would look right to you. You can tell Manu to shoot more. But you can't change history and you look foolish trying to pin parker on sabotaging Manu's career.
Holy hell, i get it.Manu was better. Thank god TOny could eat so many minutes and not wear Manu into the ground.
words vs stats. You don't know the difference. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
k.. you are beginning to be one of this sites worst posters of 2015 season. No one even replies to ur shitty takes. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by K...
Finally, agenda crew. Plz address the point guard argument in light of the various attempts to blame parkers playoff numbers for under performance.
This is one of the agenda's crews best most though out arguments! cmon.
Also if one of the short bus could try and answer the query. It's a legitimate basketball question. If you don't want to scroll up or haven't read the point guard thread in the NBA forum i can help you narrow the question and find the relevant sources.
DADOM I CAN"T HEAR YOU< I HAVE YOU ON IGNORE
but i looked at your comment and i accept your criticism, i am a pretty bad poster who has no e-crew nor knowledge of advanced stats. I did not watch the last game...lol. If you reject my role as an interlocutor or arbitrator of logic than so be it. But hey it's not like i haven't just asked the crew to talk basketball with me. They could.
:lmao The irony in this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
It's alright man. NPQuote:
Originally Posted by K...
Lots of Fe in ur diet man. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
:lol :tu Mods should just do you a favor and end your e-life , tbh.. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by dabom
no really cmon, take a stab at it.....why does Harlem say point guards are all inefficient in the playoffs yet single out parker here? It doesn't make sense...can you spot the flaw in my logic?
Lets start here....which point guards elevated their performance in the playoffs. That would be a good start.
Dabom if you want to wait until your daddy gets here, just say so.
Bc Harlem is a troll. Nobody takes his threads serious besides Robdiaz, Lefty, and his Alt's :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by K...
Speedy Claxton and Patty Mills come to mind...Quote:
Originally Posted by K...