Re: The Beautiful Game vs Iso basketball
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Originally Posted by
$pursDynasty
This is NOT a flame war thread. I have been listening to basketball talk all day. On the San Antonio sports station they were discussing the if Parker must decrease in order for Kiwi to increase. There was also an article on flow vs iso offenses on ESPN site on 4/8. The Spurs have had no problem passing the torch from the Admiral to Tim, to Manu to Tony and now to Kiwi. It is best to ride your best horse and the Spurs are always more about team than individual exploits. KL is the Spurs most athletic player that is on the rise. His game is evolving and improving on both sides of the court.
However I was watching the beautiful game videos on youtube, it always fires me up. The Spurs are an all time great at the motion offense aka the beautiful game, however that was as much a choice of necessity as it was a stylistic choice. The Spurs didn't have the uber athletes to play Thunderrefs basketball, therefore they had to find another way, and another way did they find. However now they have an uber athlete. KL might be a consensus top 10 - 15 player next season depending on how the playoffs play out. The Spurs now can play iso offense thru the Claw in a way that they haven't been able to since Timmy in his prime running 4 down. Just because they can however, should they?
A vast majority of the league runs iso offenses with a healthy dose of pick and roll so defenses around the league are well versed on how to defend it. There are a few teams that are trying to run the beautiful game but no one can do it as well as the Spurs at their best, so it is impossible to prepare for them. If a choice must be made between what type of offense to run I am totally on team Beautiful game. KL is ascending but he is nowhere near the best iso player in the league on offense (Harden, Curry, Westbrook, KD, LBJ come to mind) so while he is a matchup nightmare, he isn't good enough at it (yet) to carry us where we want to go with it. The NBA hasn't found a cure for the beautiful game yet, now I have no problem with Kiwi moving up the option chart in the flow of the offense, and I have more faith in him being the last guy to touch the ball on a offensive possession but I am not ready for the team's offensive philosophy to change just yet.
I tire of hearing how other teams are more athletic than the Spurs at almost every position and I want the Spurs to be more athletic but there are some things about the masses (majority) that I do not covet or want for the Spurs. Even if KL becomes the impossible to cover matchup nightmare that Westbrook and Harden can be at times I do NOT want the Spurs to run a Thunder or Rockets type offense. One day I might tire of the flow offense but now is not that time. To me KL can thrive and grow in it, maybe not statwise in the Westbrook scoring title sense but that has never been the Spurs way well since the Admiral, lol. KL in the flow offense is the best of both worlds, like having a totally bought into the system in their prime Jordan and Kareem running the Princeton offense (the perfect storm of intensity, intelligence and athleticism).
The beautiful game needs hot 3-point shooting to create space and blow out opponents early, if the semi-open 3's are not falling you have to have a plan B.
Strong 1v1 ISO scoring (or at most, ability to score efficiently off a simple screen and roll) is always needed when you have a dry position, or the game slows down in the 4th.
Even last year, when things got desperate in OKC game 6, Spurs went to Duncan ISO out of dire need. And vs Miami games 3-4-5 Kwahi had amazing ISO plays.
You are not going to win a championship with 100% passing, which is why I don't think the Hawks has any chance against the Cavs in a serious best of 7.
For Spurs to win it all this year as a sixth seed, Kwahi have to be playing at game 3-4-5 level. Heck, for Spurs to pass the clippers, he has to be the go-to scorer if the Spurs can't find an open shot.
Re: The Beautiful Game vs Iso basketball
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Originally Posted by
glen907
And the parker haters strike again, can a fan have at least 1 thread without this shit. Only place on the web where i see this much hate for players on the team you supposed to love. Who are you guys trying to convince cause it's for damn sure pop ain't listening??? How can people be player fans of a team that operates the exact opposite philosophy??? SMH must be this new generation, I could imagine what these guys would've been saying about avery back in the day
Most of these player fans have never coached or played basketball. They think that somehow watching games gives them insight to the game. Let's face it....if they ever had the chance to make their silly recommendations to Pop they would get a blank stare like he does to reporters on TNT or ESPN.
Re: The Beautiful Game vs Iso basketball
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Originally Posted by
LongtimeSpursFan
Most of these player fans have never coached or played basketball l. They think that somehow watching games gives them insight to the game. Let's face it....if they ever had the chance to make their silly recommendations to Pop they would get a start like he does to reporters on TNT or ESPN.
How long have you been coaching?
