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In general the stats were skewed by the injury recovery, by ceding the offense to other players, and yeah by sucking.
BTW, LOrd Diaz, what am i arguing? I believe the current battle cry is:
Kawhi is the alpha, lets judge him as alpha.
But nope. You couldn't handle that, and so five-ten threads, 20 hours, and lots of spin, here we are.
Who better to do it than a statistician
what's up with that guys pic? He cropped out another guy. Not that that's wrong, but you can't take a damn decent selfie to put on your part time sports blog.
Apparently stats don't matter now or for some unknown reason a guys whose job is literally stats isn't qualified.:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
ON/OFF COURT IMPACT
Virtually everyone is aware of the on/off impact that Kawhi Leonard has had this year with the Spurs. When Kawhi's on the court, they've played excellent ball. When he's not, they've been... shaky, to say the least. Fewer are aware of the fact that Tony Parker's on-court presence has been essentially the opposite. With Parker on the court, San Antonio has been outscored by one point. Their defense has been atrocious and their offense has been below par. With Parker off, they've been absolutely excellent, outscoring opponents by 7.6 points. Here are some simple numbers on San Antonio's team performance with Tony Parker on and off the court from the current season:
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I'd love to see his update in April. I don't think Parker haters would like it as much. Again, I'm not a Parker fan; I can acknowledge that his game has slipped a little and I acknowledge when he plays poorly, but I also don't overblow his decline, especially to the stupidity of thinking we are a better team with Patty or COJO playing 30 minutes a game. If you are a true Spur fan, you don't want that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
HAHAAA Finance, where you can buy and sell freely. Basketball, where you have signed contracts and have team synergy, but god damn, Morey is the best GM hands down.
Truth nukesQuote:
Originally Posted by K...
:lol shurtbus
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Originally Posted by K...
Yes, except you left out the logic, like that Parker plays against the starters, which we play about evenly, and our bench dominates, as the second highest scoring bench in the league against other non-starters. Play Parker against the second unit, and I bet they do better. Maybe you can also ask for an update to the report to reflect all the numbers and not half the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
let's see some stats fellas. don't just talk out of your ass.
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Nope, you're still wrong. And post some stats to back up what you're saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by cd98
"This chart shows the on minus off performance in each of the metrics above. As an example, compare the 2015: ON - OFF column to the chart above. Note that eFG is calculated by 0.505 - 0.509 = - 0.004. Same is true of all the columns. Red indicates something that's bad for that column (for instance, the Spurs defended 11.5 points worse per 100 possessions with Tony on the court in the 2010 playoffs), green indicates something good (the Spurs net rating was 20.5 points per 100 possessions better with Tony on the court in the 2012 playoffs), and yellow indicates mediocrity or generally something close to zero. You'll note that with the singular exception of this year's increased on-court assist rate, Parker's play has been more detrimental to the Spurs this year than it's ever been in San Antonio's recent run. The past few years has seen a steady erosion of Parker's value. They've played better with Parker off the court than they have with him on it ever since the 2013 regular season. You know, two years ago.
There are a bunch of mitigating factors that should be considered here. To specify:
- Parker tends to face starters and San Antonio's bench mob tends to destroy teams off the bench, inflating +/- differences.
- The playoff numbers from 2010 to 2013 are comparing wildly different minute profiles, as he spent 70%+ of San Antonio's minutes on the floor.
- Parker suffered injuries in the 2013 playoffs that significantly compromised his value.
All those factors considered, this still isn't good when it comes to this season's performance. Perhaps it's enough to explain and mitigate his performance last year, but not when the difference is as drastic as this year. Parker's performance has also overlapped highly with most of San Antonio's best performers this season, which makes it harder to justify the bench mob talk."
it won't end until Parker retires tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
Yet you clowns have no stats to back up your statements.Quote:
Originally Posted by SASdynasty!
Let's see some stats for the whole year, not January stats that only tell part of the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
Where are your Parker is helping the team stats? all I see is complaining...Quote:
Originally Posted by cd98
that's the whole story. and you're the one claiming parker has been better. prove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by cd98
List of parkerfans cd/98 excuses
1. Stats are skewed.
2. Stats are not relevant now because Parker is supposedly playing better.
3. Statistician in question is not relevant even though his job is statistician.
What will 4 be?
Note that underlined and also note that he is using numbers from January and before, where Parker was playing some atrocious basketball. He picked up his game in February, and especially March, so its hard to know what the true numbers are. But even if the numbers show a decline from Parker, what they don't show is that the Spurs are better if you play Mills or COJO against NBA starters for 30 minutes. Those numbers aren't in his analysis, which is why ultimately, your conclusion that the Spurs should bench Parker and start Mills or COJO and play them 30 minutes is absurd. And Coach Pop would call you an idiot if you went to his press conference and asked him why he bothers starting Parker over COJO and Mills.Quote:
Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
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Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
I'm not a statistician, and of course, neither are you. You pull an old article because that's the only thing you can find on the internet. You have no idea what those stats even mean, which is why you provide no analysis and just take what the guy says as gospel. It's annoying, but typical of a fan that has an agenda, regardless of facts or circumstances. Now, I know that Parker has played better because his numbers improved and he has looked much better than he did in January. You may disagree, but I don't really care because the ultimate proof is that Pop, who knows more about basketball than you know about starting repetitive threads, starts Parker over Mills and COJO, and won't play either over Parker for 30 minutes because that would be counterproductive for the team. As a Spurs fan, I want the optimal players playing, as a Parker hater, you would rather lose than see the Spurs win with Parker.Quote:
Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
The problem is Parker is still playing like shit. You have no stats to back up what you say. You desperately want the Spurs to win with Parker for some reason. idgaf who the spurs win with as long as they win. You are confusing Parker playing well with the team playing well. Plenty of players put up good stat lines but don't make their teams better. 1 on 1 Parker would destroy Cojo or Mills but 1 on 1 doesn't matter. He is bad for the team and rarely makes anyone around him better. The stats back that up. So you can keep spinning and deflecting and making excuses but stats don't lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by cd98
How would one know if he is playing better than he was in January?Quote:
Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
He plays better now?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper