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Originally Posted by hater
only great players can take their team through the playoffs. the spurs were a machine last year so last year doesn't count.
this year, the machine is sputtering. It's up to Kawhi to carry them (IF he's a "great" player)
Comparing Kawhi to Tim is a fair comparison? Kawhi is nowhere near the franchise changing player Tim is/was. I love Kawhi but Stabula is right, the comparison is assanine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kool Bob Love
None. It took Jordan his 8th season before he won a championship. Plus, the fact that the Clips are doubling Kawhi makes me think Rivers thinks about Kawhi the same as Pop does. Pop just needs to work some plays around Kawhi being doubled on the high post. I think we will see a few of these tomorrow night.
Leonard isn't a leader. He's too introverted to lead. If he leads by example, that's fine, but a leader has to speak up and make their presence known. He might be the best player on the team, but at this point it's Tim who's the leader on the floor.
KL's career is too new to consider legacy. This year will have no affect on it as long as he doesn't have a Palace like brawl.
By the way, Anthony Davis is a franchise player, and he'll not carry his team to a single win most likely.
He's 23. His career will clearly be over if he doesn't carry them past the first round. What team would take a chance on him after this possible failure?
You can't really compare Kawhi to prime Tim. You really can't even compare hardly anyone else to a prime Tim Duncan as most players wouldn't do to well in that comparison.
However, if Kawhi wants to be as great as he has said he does, then he needs to start doing it now. You might not get many of these same chances/opportunities you're getting right now without Tim Duncan, so you gotta do everything that you can with the opportunity you've been given. Kawhi has got to do it. He can do it, he's more than capable, he's just got to believe it and his teammates need to believe it and trust him more too.
to be fair in Duncan's first years, he was quiet too and DRob was the team leader.
Offense ran through Tim pretty much from day 1, even with Robinson. More so his second season. The offense still rarely goes through Leonard.
One of the big issues in game 1, that is easily corrected, was the spacing. The Spurs had horrible spacing issues so many times Leonard would have no one to pass out to when he was doubled. I expect the spacing to be the biggest adjustment Pop makes for game two (perhaps going as far as to Bring Bonner or Diaw into the starting lineup)
There wasn't a "big 3" in Tim's first few seasons.
Kawhi needs to get mad and let that feed his aggressiveness. Fighting through screens and drawing fouls will be key to his (and the Spurs) success in this series.
It's tough to say. Like someone already mentioned, it does depend on how much the spurs use him offensively. I'd like to see them go at him from the beginning of the game. He needs to get those reps of creating out of a double team as Timmy did. I'm sure Tim has given him some pointers on what to do and look for once the double team comes. I think most of the problem was Kawhi and the team not expecting the double to come. I'm confident he and the spurs will adjust and be ready for game 2. Tbh.. last game Kawhi looked liked Kawhi in games 1 and 2 in the finals last year. No fire or determination to get the ball and be aggressive with it. We all know his defense will be there. I wonder if they defend the pick and roll differently next game. Kawhi likes to get hung up on screens for some reason and more often then not gets beat by his man, and the help defense it almost never there. We will see though.
:lol chill. This is a thread about Kawhi's legacy taking an impact if we don't get to the 2nd round, nothing to do with individual games.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Thanks for the responses, tbh...
I still doubt he's a franchise caliber guy, despite what Pop says, and I agree this would be his time to "break-out" if it's ever going to happen.
Ight, who hacked nonos account?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
:lol I've been saying the same thing for a while, rob... shouldn't be surprising, tbh...Quote:
Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
Is it really that hard for people to see who the offense still revolves around (unfortunately)? I'm on my phone so I'm simply going to post DMC 's quote since he explained it perfectly:
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Originally Posted by DMC
What is a franchise caliber guy to you? He already does everything a franchise caliber guy does from my perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Probably revolves around him because he is still clearly a better optionQuote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
If Kawhi is truly the better option, the offense would revolve around him
:lmao :lmao :lmao kawhi sucks :rollin
Lead his team past round 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
I think 80% of STers think the offense runs through kawhi. Fucking losers. :lmao They can't objectively watch a basketball game.Quote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
The mavs not getting past the first round. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Phillip
We'll get past the first round but it's still not his team offensively.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
Enlighten us with your genius basketball takes please , tell us how he's just a Tony Allen/Shane Battier type player. :tuQuote:
Originally Posted by Phillip
I may have to rethink this apprenticeship...:depressedQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
He can't lead a team when he doesn't get the ball or the minutes.