Report: Spurs might get a free agent meeting with LaMarcus Aldridge

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Originally Posted by Sean Cagney

When was the last time they had alot of space 2003? They went after Kidd and Webber then. If you are talking Max FA's then yes you are right, the mid tier FA's when they had some space still passed up on the Spurs to go to the sexier pick in a bigger city. That is just the way it seems to be or has been. They draft players and get some key pieces here and there, thats the way they have moved.

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Perhaps I'm forgetting someone but which mid tier FA has signed for another team on similar money to what the Spurs had to offer?

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

Still doesn't change the fact that they were limited due to space. Those "mid tier" players were delusional and wanted more of course, who doesnt want them bling bling.

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The city also factors in there as well tbh, SA is not a really a big FA spot for some reason. Spurs have not had a ton of space you are right but they offered some value like the other team did or near it (Gasol recently) and they repeatedly draw interest but always end up getting passed up. They get the rings though so something must be going right? I am fine with the role players they get in FA and the draft choices, that's the way they seem to move and it works.

When a FA comes to SA and they have the space then I will change my tune on that, as of now I don't expect it.

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Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan

Perhaps I'm forgetting someone but which mid tier FA has signed for another team on similar money to what the Spurs had to offer?

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Gasol, Maggette in 08 and whoever else has been so called interested in the Spurs in the last 10 years and close to signing only to go somewhere else. There has been many more than just those two but that is an example. Spurs offer near the same as the other team but they seem to take the so called sexier pick.

Of course the big city vs no nightlife matters but that's beyond the point. Gasol was offered more money + a bigger role. He won't play behind Duncan Bobo and Tiago.

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Originally Posted by Sean Cagney

Gasol, Maggette in 08 and whoever else has been so called interested in the Spurs in the last 10 years and close to signing only to go somewhere else. There has been many more than just those two but that is an example. Spurs offer near the same as the other team but they seem to take the so called sexier pick.

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Disagree on Gasol, the Spurs only had the MLE, Chicago had more than that. The MLE last sumemr was $5.3 mil, he ended up signing at 7.5 per + 15% trade kicker. That's significant IMO.

Corey Maggette :lol you're way off there - again the Spurs had the MLE ~$ 5mil, he signed at 10 mil per. 5 years /50 mil.

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

Of course the big city vs no nightlife matters but that's beyond the point.

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No, that is my point there as most seem to like that nowadays. I have not been to SA but I surely would like to live in a nice city if I were a FA and looking to move somewhere as a younger dude (Especially if single). I am sure SA is nice but do the have a night life there and is it attractive? A family atmosphere it appears to be and tight knit but probably not alot to do and that deters some from going there.

I agree on your other part though about him playing behind others and I had no clue he was offered that much more money? I thought it was close? Either or a FA has never really signed in SA besides Derek Anderson that one year and he bolted right after that for a little more money to Portland. We get the Jax, Horry's, Barry's, Diaws and so on, that I AM 100% fine with! Key role players around our big three, plus some witty draft picks by the FO! That is their lane.

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Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan

Disagree on Gasol, the Spurs only had the MLE, Chicago had more than that. The MLE last sumemr was $5.3 mil, he ended up signing at 7.5 per + 15% trade kicker. That's significant IMO.

Corey Maggette :lol you're way off there - again the Spurs had the MLE ~$ 5mil, he signed at 10 mil per. 5 years /50 mil.

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Bottom line is they were all favoring or close to signing in SA and said it was about winning and not money (Some of them), then chose the money over winning and look where that ended them? They chose the sexy pick as usual and showed it was all about the money. Webber and Kidd passed up SA in 03 when they had a ton of money since we are talking money, they were all about signing them too at the time. Spurs whiff on most FA's and that is a fact, to say otherwise would be fooling yourself.


Get at me when they sign a FA then you will be right.

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Originally Posted by SpursFan86

Just looked it up...Aldridge is only about half a year younger than Gasol, so I was wrong about that.

As for the mileage, LMA might have more NBA mileage, but you have to remember Gasol has played a good amount of international ball (both in European leagues and for the Spanish national team). I'm not so sure there's much of a difference in their mileage.

And regardless, like I said, I feel LMA is a better fit next to Splitter and would make more sense given our current roster.

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Most of international leagues have much shorter seasons and play 40 minutes. I would think L.A definitely has more millage.


I think Gasol could play with Splitter, though our starting lineup has had spacing troubles over the past couple of seasons. Even though Gasol can hit an outside jumper that would still be my main concern with that pairing. Aldridge would probably be a better fit but Gasol is the closest to truly replacing Duncan.

If the Spurs could unload Mills for a pick, they could clear out near max cap space ($19,300,000) roughly). It would be crazy but technically possible that they renounce both Duncan and Ginobili and are able bring them back on vet min. deals as a part of sales pitch to L.A and or Gasol


Parker/Cojo (using Room Exception)
Green (Bird Rights)/Ginobili
Leonard/Anderson
Duncan/Diaw/LJC
Gasol/Splitter


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Parker/Cojo (using Room Exception)
Green (Bird Rights)/Ginobili
Leonard/Anderson
Aldridge/Diaw/LJC
Duncan/Splitter

either route they would be able to bring over LJC and maybe another stash to fill out the roster.

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Originally Posted by BatManu20

Gasol's not coming to SA though. Aldridge probably isn't either, but if you're playing the odds game, we'd have a much better chance at luring Aldridge.

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Probably not, but the fact he is from Texas and his family still lives in Texas, I think he would at least hear the Spurs offer. Spurs could sign and trade Splitter and someone else, maybe Mills to get him. I hardly doubt this happens. But you never know. It looks like Portland is heading to another 1st round exit.

Seeing how competitive the West is now, maybe he feels like the Spurs and Pop give him the best shot to win in the near future. Having him in the post and Kawhi on the high post would be a nightmare for teams to defend.

Wow, a big 3 of Tony Parker, Kawhi Leonard and LaMarcus Aldrige Would be arguably better than any other big 3 in the League...... Make it happen!!

You don't trade Splitter or Green for Aldridge unless you get replacements for them. Mills, LJC and the pick are possible, though. As I said before, moving those assets for a premier stashed prospect sounds ideal, but I dunno if there's anyone who fits that mold besides Saric, whom Philly would only move for a top-10 pick, in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

You don't trade Splitter or Green for Aldridge unless you get replacements for them. Mills, LJC and the pick are possible, though. As I said before, moving those assets for a premier stashed prospect sounds ideal, but I dunno if there's anyone who fits that mold besides Saric, whom Philly would only move for a top-10 pick, in my opinion.

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I would move Splitter because who is going to create offense in the post once Duncan is gone. Splitter is one of the top 3 defensive bigs in the league (yes I mean that and the numbers prove it), but you can always find defensive guys. Look at Perkins. He has made a career of just being a defensive bigman. These are more common than guys like LA.

LA is a good defender, but a great offensive player. I would rather have Marc Gasol, but more than likely he is not leaving Memphis. Spurs can look for defensive C via the NBA draft or FA. And Splitter will be FA after next year. Who is to say that we trade him and a year later resign him.

I don't think the Spurs should use Green as trade bait. There is nobody via FA or the draft that could replace him consider the Spurs salary cap situation.

But like I said, I doubt anything happens. Just giving my two cents worth.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

You don't trade Splitter or Green for Aldridge unless you get replacements for them. Mills, LJC and the pick are possible, though. As I said before, moving those assets for a premier stashed prospect sounds ideal, but I dunno if there's anyone who fits that mold besides Saric, whom Philly would only move for a top-10 pick, in my opinion.

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I think Justin Anderson looks like a great option in the draft if we decide to let Danny go. Ha the same physical profile (6'6", 6'11" wing, 220lbs) and he's shot better percentage at higher volume from 3 (45%, 4 att/game) than Danny did in college. The only worry is that he has just had a good year as his percentages weren't great in his freshman or sophmore years, although again neither was Dannys.

With Greens cap hold at $7.5m it really makes sense to try and keep him, and if we dump Mills it would mean Aldridge would likely be giving up less than $1m compared to his max.

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Originally Posted by Cowboys_Wear_Spurs

I would move Splitter because who is going to create offense in the post once Duncan is gone. Splitter is one of the top 3 defensive bigs in the league (yes I mean that and the numbers prove it), but you can always find defensive guys. Look at Perkins. He has made a career of just being a defensive bigman. These are more common than guys like LA.

LA is a good defender, but a great offensive player. I would rather have Marc Gasol, but more than likely he is not leaving Memphis. Spurs can look for defensive C via the NBA draft or FA. And Splitter will be FA after next year. Who is to say that we trade him and a year later resign him.

I don't think the Spurs should use Green as trade bait. There is nobody via FA or the draft that could replace him consider the Spurs salary cap situation.

But like I said, I doubt anything happens. Just giving my two cents worth.

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Perkins was never the defender Splitter is. Perkins is a hot head who can hold his own in the post, but he wasn't going to switch PnRs or protect the rim. He also wasn't going to check perimeter bigs. It wouldn't be easy at all to replace Splitter, especially not to the extent that the Spurs would remain contenders.

A Parker/Green/Leonard/Aldridge/Splitter SL would probably be the most balanced in the league. But the bench would be a work in progress with Joseph, Anderson, Diaw and Baynes teaming up with some new player (either a rookie second-rounder or some min guy). If you trade Splitter away, then the bench isn't any better, while the SL is no longer nearly as balanced.

Even as a guy who wants LA, I feel as though he'd be the missing piece, not a building block. If the Spurs can't get him without keeping the rest of their SL, then there's no point. They'd be just as good getting some cheaper PF and keeping their defensive foundation together.

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Originally Posted by Richie

I think Justin Anderson looks like a great option in the draft if we decide to let Danny go. Ha the same physical profile (6'6", 6'11" wing, 220lbs) and he's shot better percentage at higher volume from 3 (45%, 4 att/game) than Danny did in college. The only worry is that he has just had a good year as his percentages weren't great in his freshman or sophmore years, although again neither was Dannys.

With Greens cap hold at $7.5m it really makes sense to try and keep him, and if we dump Mills it would mean Aldridge would likely be giving up less than $1m compared to his max.

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They shouldn't consider anyone a Green replacement unless they can realistically expect him to give the same production that Kawhi did his first year. That's not because Green is THAT good, but it's because the team will be reloading and can't afford to lose that production from the two (especially if Manu also leaves).

Parker is only getting older/worse, and LA wouldn't be that far behind. So the team can't afford to wait three years for Anderson to become current Green. And they won't have anything else other than the room exception and min deals to get a starting two, and the room exception should really be going to a backup PG/C under this scenario

With Pop having attained legend status, and the lack of an income tax in Texas, I think we have a really good chance of finally landing a big fish FA.

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

Smh "SA can't get big free agents". Of fucking course, they didn't have cap space you dumbasses.

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In '03 they had lots of cap space and were still rejected by Jermaine O'neal and Kidd who were both big FA's during that time period. Rasheed rejected the spurs in summer of '09 despite the spurs offering the full MLE and a bigger role but he still went to the Celtics.

Y'all have to pay MAX to retain KL longterm. Can y'all afford to pay both players MAX? Enrique, Shitter, Diaw and Patty are all still owed another ~$64 million over the next 2 years. Plus, how much to re-sign Tim?

Tell you what. Pay LMA MAX, and I'm sure MK will gladly take KL off your hands with a MAX deal (remember he's a Cali boy :toast). New young Laker core: KL, Randle, Clarkson, and Towns (or Okafor). I could roll with that. :hat

Go get LMA. Do it RC! :downspin:

I have no beef with LA. But KL must stay and I dont see both happening

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Originally Posted by LkrFan

Y'all have to pay MAX to retain KL longterm. Can y'all afford to pay both players MAX? Enrique, Shitter, Diaw and Patty are all still owed another ~$64 million over the next 2 years.

Tell you what. Pay LMA MAX, and I'm sure MK will gladly take KL off your hands with a MAX deal (remember he's a Cali boy :toast). New young Laker core: KL, Randle, Clarkson, and Towns (or Okafor). I could roll with that. :hat

Go get LMA. Do it RC! :downspin:

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:lmao enjoy Rondo, my nigga:lmao..

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Originally Posted by Malik Hairston

:lmao enjoy Rondo, my nigga:lmao..

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Fuck that shiiiiiiiiiiit! :lmao

Greens walking :stirpot:

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Originally Posted by spurspokesman

I have no beef with LA. But KL must stay and I dont see both happening

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Spurs can afford both. That was the whole point of Kawhi waiting on extending his contract. They can even afford Green as they have his bird right's and can resign him even despite being over the cap.

This is the same scenario Morey tried to pull of with Bosh last offseason but instead lost Parson, thinking no team was going to offer them the Max. But unlike Parsons, it appears that the Spurs have already told Kawhi he is going to get the max despite what happens. It's all about the timing of things at this point.

Lmao at this thread.

"no lets not get that soft bitch who would instantly become our best player. Lets just give the Max to a guy that can't post up Jamal Crawford"

:lmao

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Originally Posted by Chomag

Greens walking :stirpot:

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If he has another game like he did on Sunday, Pop will probably make him walk back to SA.

Also, seriously, we have a salary thread in the Think Tank that goes over this in detail. Why are people acting like we have to spit-ball these numbers? And yes, the Spurs would gladly pay the tax for one year if it meant having a post-Duncan contender. That is just too rare to pass up.

LOL