It's ok to hate Tony Parker

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Originally Posted by pgardn

You have no Fckn clue.
none...

You put Chris Paul on Patty after a made basket while Paul is not exhausted 1st quarter and you are asking for a slaughter that is completely unfair to Patty. Get this through your skull, Patty ain't a point. Patty needs to be down the court waiting for things to set up so he can score, because this is what Patty does, this is his niche. Open court breakout hit the three; Set play, corners and top of the key. Patty is a scorer, not an organizer.

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Jesus how hard do you have to reach to justify playing a horrible player simply because he can dribble up the floor? Paddy and Cory don't have Enrique's handles, but they're not rec league scrubs either. Pretty sure they can dribble a basketball up the court.

The offense is ran by Pop not TP. The structure is already there with or without Rique.

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Originally Posted by ernest787

Anyone who compares Tony to Pablo Prigioni is just trolling.

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2015 Playoffs
Enrique Parker: 5.5 ppg, 3.0 apg, 2.0 rpg on 23.5% shooting (29 mpg)
Pablo Prigioni: 4.5 ppg, 3.0 apg, 1.9 rpg on 43.7% shooting (22.5 mpg)

I watched a third of the vid. Didn't see mills run the half court set. Saw Manu. Saw spot up shooting, saw fast break.

I think mills can play with Manu. Increase both their minutes, limit tp to 20m

Fwiw I don't think anyone is arguing Tony should be played in corpse mode. Was is argued is that without tp the offense could suffer (but not defense lol). I say might, because we have seen the spurs play well without Tony.


Also old man Parker (but not corpse Parker) is a net positive. Those aren't controversial goals.

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Originally Posted by ernest787

Anyone who compares Tony to Pablo Prigioni is just trolling.

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Agreed. No need to insult Prigioni like that.

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Originally Posted by Clipper Nation

Agreed. No need to insult Prigioni like that.

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:lol

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Originally Posted by FkLA

2015 Playoffs
Enrique Parker: 5.5 ppg, 3.0 apg, 2.0 rpg on 23.5% shooting (29 mpg)
Pablo Prigioni: 4.5 ppg, 3.0 apg, 1.9 rpg on 43.7% shooting (22.5 mpg)

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If you are aruging that Tony on 1/2 a leg = Pablo Prigioni then I'll conceed that. And since you are posting 2015 Playoff numbers, I'm assuming that is now your argument.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

Jesus how hard do you have to reach to justify playing a horrible player simply because he can dribble up the floor? Paddy and Cory don't have Enrique's handles, but they're not rec league scrubs either. Pretty sure they can dribble a basketball up the court.

The offense is ran by Pop not TP. The structure is already there.)

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There is no reach whatsoever when bringing it up against Chris Paul.
None. Paul will kill someone he knows is not quick enough, he can gamble from anywhere.

Last night he cleaned KL out twice. Picked him clean. Just helping.

Yeah I enjoyed watching Pop bring the ball up. Pop manned up because he knew Tony was faking injuries.
Good point.

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Originally Posted by weebo

Says everyone who knows a thing or two about the Spurs and basketball, including Spurs players and coaches. PJ Carlesimo (closely associated with the Spurs) said this much this morning. So stop cheery picking arguments to fit your agenda. Also, if you had taken the time to read/comprehend my post you would understand the point I was trying to make, which happens to be that the Spurs need everyone to play to be successful in the long term because individually they don't match up talent wise vs some of the other teams in the league. Their depth and how they fit within the confines of their program is what makes them a championship team. You take that away from them you strip away an advantage.

Has it ever dawned on you why Pop always says the biggest thing for them going into the playoffs is health?

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The Spurs don't need Parker to be successful. Stats back that up.

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Originally Posted by robdiaz2191

The Spurs don't need Parker to be successful. Stats back that up.

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Has it ever dawned on you why Pop always says the biggest thing for them going into the playoffs is health?

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Originally Posted by robdiaz2191

The Spurs don't need Parker to be successful. Stats back that up.

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They only need him to be the leading scorer and assist-man. But not "successful."

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Originally Posted by mclinejr

TP will redeem himself.

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Bad ankle

Bad Achilles

.. Redemption looking improbable anytime soon

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Originally Posted by robdiaz2191

The Spurs don't need Parker to be successful. Stats back that up.

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Another example of holding papa Harlem stats but not understanding them.

Also, it's not a true false thing. It's odds. Spurs are more likely to win with healthy Parker despite the magical stats that say the offense improved when he sat.

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Originally Posted by ernest787

If you are aruging that Tony on 1/2 a leg = Pablo Prigioni then I'll conceed that. And since you are posting 2015 Playoff numbers, I'm assuming that is now your argument.

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You forgot the broken fingers, chronic flu and amputated asscheeks.

But yes we are talking about 2015. Is that not the year we are currently in?

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Originally Posted by pgardn

There is no reach whatsoever when bringing it up against Chris Paul.
None. Paul will kill someone he knows is not quick enough, he can gamble from anywhere.

Last night he cleaned KL out twice. Picked him clean. Just helping.

Yeah I enjoyed watching Pop bring the ball up. Pop manned up because he knew Tony was faking injuries.
Good point.

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He got Kawhi from behind. Name me a recent time where getting the ball across halfcourt has been an issue for the team, regardless of who was in at PG? The last time I can remember that happening is way back in '05 when Beno fell apart against Detroit in the Finals.

I'm saying Enrique isn't out there orchestrating much. The offense is already structured, Rique is simply a part of Pop's offense.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

You forgot the broken fingers, chronic flu and amputated asscheeks.

But yes we are talking about 2015. Is that not the year we are currently in?



He got Kawhi from behind. Name me a recent time where getting the ball across halfcourt has been an issue for the team, regardless of who was in at PG? The last time I can remember that happening is way back in '05 when Beno fell apart against Detroit in the Finals.

I'm saying Enrique isn't out there orchestrating much. The offense is already structured, Rique is simply a part of Pop's offense.

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Last nite. Patty frrgn forgot 8 seconds and was right on it. Sean E. Almost had a heart attack.

But that's just the beginning. If we can't get the ball up quickly and say to Tim easily at the top of the key so he can overlook the floor and the curls off screens, the whole flow is immediately disrupted because the D is not on the back heel. The D is ready to jump routes on the front foot, they don't worry about anyone beating them. Defense can be much more aggressive if you can't beat your man off the dribble. The whole tone for overplay and jumping lanes is set.

Your man must play further off you if you can beat him off the dribble, the spacing becomes larger. Then you have all sorts of options. Passing, shooting and dribbling is much easier. It you recieve the ball and your man respects your dribble you get space! It's too simple. If you have options, the flow of the offense can begin.

You have to see the above if you have watched basketball or played any amount of time. The above is so obvious. Tony gets this respect. So the offense has at least a chance to work. No other point we have is allowed this type of space. And frankly Tony was not getting much of it last nite. CP smelled blood. It's the playoffs.

Faggots complaining about our only PG to lace them up for the playoffs. :lmao

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Originally Posted by dabom

Faggots complaining about our only PG to lace them up for the playoffs. :lmao

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Recognizing yourself as hilarious is unique.
Masturbation must be a treat for you.

How old are you again son?

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