Tony Parker achilles injury thread

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Originally Posted by Malik Hairston

And the team was statistically better when was on the bench throughout the playoffs:lol..

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Team had the best winning margin when Parker was out last year as well. Stats proved last year, the Spurs were a better team both offensively and defensively when Parker was not on the floor.

Parker, for the most part last year, was like the Love's, Anthony's, etc of the league, just a stat padder.

But he did have that one game against Dallas (Game 5), not game 7 as the Spurs would have won that even without Parker, that was crucial for them.

So one game could have been the difference in a 1st round exit or a championship. That is why I think Pop should play him sparsely and let him heal, so he will be ready for when the Spurs do need him.

Really wish we hadn't contracted him for so much $$ - I would not be opposed to seeing him on another team next season.

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Originally Posted by Cowboys_Wear_Spurs

Team had the best winning margin when Parker was out last year as well. Stats proved last year, the Spurs were a better team both offensively and defensively when Parker was not on the floor.

Parker, for the most part last year, was like the Love's, Anthony's, etc of the league, just a stat padder.

But he did have that one game against Dallas (Game 5), not game 7 as the Spurs would have won that even without Parker, that was crucial for them.

So one game could have been the difference in a 1st round exit or a championship. That is why I think Pop should play him sparsely and let him heal, so he will be ready for when the Spurs do need him.

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Parker is still a useful player, he still runs the offense well and he's the best ball-handler on the team..however, as we saw last year, the team doesn't need him..it's helpful when he looks right like he did in game 7 vs Dallas, of course..

Parker is the engine. He ran the orchestra very well last night. Sad that most fans are too dim to see this. Glad Duncan and Pop do.


Oh and if we lose Parker series is lost

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Originally Posted by hater

Parker is the engine. He ran the orchestra very well last night. Sad that most fans are too dim to see this. Glad Duncan and Pop do.


Oh and if we lose Parker series is lost

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He did in the first and later, but like Tiago, he started to fade and Pop thankfully pulled him. But if Mills continue his play, I just think Pop should let Parker heal so he can be available when the Spurs need him. Manage his minutes right now.

With Rockets current situation, even an 80% Parker would go ham on Terry/Pablo like he already did this year. If the Spurs win this series, more than likely will face them in the next round.

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Originally Posted by Cowboys_Wear_Spurs

He did in the first and later, but like Tiago, he started to fade and Pop thankfully pulled him. But if Mills continue his play, I just think Pop should let Parker heal so he can be available when the Spurs need him. Manage his minutes right now.

With Rockets current situation, even an 80% Parker would go ham on Terry/Pablo like he already did this year. If the Spurs win this series, more than likely will face them in the next round.

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Agree that we will need Parker IF we are able to face the Rox.

Agree that Patty needs to play more obviously. But we will not win this series with a PG tandem of Mills/Evita/Cojo.

It's terrible news tbh.

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Originally Posted by Malik Hairston

And the team was statistically better when was on the bench throughout the playoffs:lol..

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That doesn't work and you know it. Matt Bonner was the king of +/- for years but do you really think he was the best player on the team?

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Originally Posted by Seventyniner

That doesn't work and you know it. Matt Bonner was the king of +/- for years but do you really think he was the best player on the team?

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It works when Parker's advanced on/off metrics were astronomically worse than the rest of the team, including the other starters..if it was a small difference, I could buy that, but the disparity was massive..

Arguing that only Parker was affected and nobody else is strange..

I also don't know why people use Bonner as an example, his numbers took a significant hit in the playoffs..

get well soon... rather have able bodies in case we manage to go far...

If we run he hyper motion offense of course we can win without Parker. Really, all the "team has been better when Parker has been off floor" means is that the spurs bench offense was elite. Eye test agrees.

But if the team sucks, if the opponent cuts down on passing, spurs are totally chucked without Parker. Just like Tim, you can't ride Tim for 45 minutes a night but his useful without his hyper beast transformation.

Parker is less useful in his non aggressive state, but he still is the best rounded pg on the roster. If healthy obv.

I've said before, a championship offense has at least 2 gears. Last night it was Duncan. Tomorrow it'll be outside shooting. Game 5? I'd sure like to have Parker back by then.

We should be ok at home but overall I do think we need him atleast a little. And like someone else said Pop sticking with him when he is clearly not right is more of the concern.

So yeah, the so called "advanced stats"should really be called more complicated than usual, no more compelling than common sense.

I love the hyper motion offense, but I don't put my bank on guys like Boris, splitter, and kawhi to run an offense.

Manu, he's good.But you can't ride him a whole game much less a series.

I hope Parker isn't actually injured and that he returns and plays well, btw, don't get me wrong..the more depth, the better..

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Originally Posted by K...

So yeah, the so called "advanced stats"should really be called more complicated than usual, no more compelling than common sense.

I love the hyper motion offense, but I don't put my bank on guys like Boris, splitter, and kawhi to run an offense.

Manu, he's good.But you can't ride him a whole game much less a series.

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If Tony keeps on being hurt, we'll find out, I suppose. What I know riding a hurt Tony won't work either.

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Originally Posted by Seventyniner

Right now, Parker = Kobe. And not in a good way.

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True.

Good thing he cares about winning though or he would have finished 0-25.

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Originally Posted by Knoxxx

The team has not really ever been reliant on TP as a playmaker.

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I agree with much of what you said, except for this. The Spurs spent many years relying on his (and Manu's) penetration. And when the penetration wasn't there, they also relied on his playmaking, outside the paint, with his midrange jumper and the high PnR.

The offense has changed but he's still the best player on the team to orchestrate the offense. Ginobili can do it in spells but he's had some disastrous experiences running the point for extended periods. Patty and Cojo can be successful off the bench because opposing teams arent game-planning to take them out of the game.

Worked yesterday for 3qrs ^ tbh

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Eva Longoria says hubby Tony Parker fakes on-court injuries
Malaysia Sun

Wednesday 23rd January, 2008
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Washington, January 23 : Desperate Housewives star Eva Longoria has revealed that her husband, basketball player Tony Parker, often fakes his on-court injuries.

The actress says that she really finds it difficult to watch her husband play for the San Antonio Spurs because she never knows when he is actually hurt, and when he is acting.

"Sometimes he acts to get the flagrant foul or, to sell the foul more, he'll throw himself on the floor and really play it up more than what it is," Contactmusic quoted her as saying.

"I really don't know what the difference is so I'm like, 'Stop laying on the ground if you're not hurt. Just get up!' He's like, 'Honey, I have to stay on the ground sometimes.' But I get really nervous, it's nail biting," she added.

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Why are you quoting EVA on this? Selling a foul to the referees by flopping is not the same as faking an injury silly.

Oh...you're a Houston fan. Nevermind.

More worried about Splitter at this point. He's really the defensive key this series. Limit Griffin's offense and passing and the Spurs pretty much shut down 50% of the Clippers offense.

But don't get me wrong, Parker is important too. Spurs offense looks terrible without Parker and the Spurs can't rely on Duncan to carry the offense in a 7 game series. And I don't really want to see Ginobili make another one of those out of control 1 or 2 handed passes while in the air that ends in a turnover. Parker still needs to be out there as a decoy to create open looks at the 3 point line.

I've never liked Parker all that much.

But, anyone who thinks it's ok to not have him out there...is delusional.

Parker should read this for inspiration:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nba/post/_/i...rough-the-pain

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Originally Posted by SouthernFried

I've never liked Parker all that much.

But, anyone who thinks it's ok to not have him out there...is delusional.

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pop thinks its okay to have him out there but nobody will call him out for trotting a half dead tp out there over patty.

We can survive for a little while without Parker, unlike say Kawhi, who is our only true small forward on the roster. But Patty has defensive holes and COJO has offensive holes that will eventually be exposed if we have to rely on either to play 30 minutes while Parker rests. Trouble is, Parker isn't going to get to where we need him without rest. I guess he's just going to have to tough through it. If we beat the Clippers, his role will be less important against the Rockets as their point guards suck. A healthy Parker would be an asset in that series, but we could get by with him resting a little. If we could beat the Clippers in 5 (not even close to likely), then he might get some rest, assuming the Mavs can win a few against the Rockets, but the likely scenario for the Spurs is a 6 or 7 game series with the Clippers, and certainly no guarantee that the Spurs will survive it.

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Originally Posted by cd98

We can survive for a little while without Parker, unlike say Kawhi, who is our only true small forward on the roster. But Patty has defensive holes and COJO has offensive holes that will eventually be exposed if we have to rely on either to play 30 minutes while Parker rests. Trouble is, Parker isn't going to get to where we need him without rest. I guess he's just going to have to tough through it. If we beat the Clippers, his role will be less important against the Rockets as their point guards suck. A healthy Parker would be an asset in that series, but we could get by with him resting a little. If we could beat the Clippers in 5 (not even close to likely), then he might get some rest, assuming the Mavs can win a few against the Rockets, but the likely scenario for the Spurs is a 6 or 7 game series with the Clippers, and certainly no guarantee that the Spurs will survive it.

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I disagree, Parker is more useful vs. Houston IMO..their PG position is terrible, he shouldn't have any problems defending Terry or Prigioni, and he should be able to score at will, as we saw in one of the Houston games in April..

His defense is a bigger issue than his offense in the Clippers series IMO..part of that is Pop not putting him on Barnes for some reason, but he's having a lot of trouble staying with Paul and playing 2-way basketball..

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Originally Posted by Malik Hairston

The series is 1-1..

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:lol IIRC you said teams will win all games at home, so Clippers in 7, that's already off

it's ok brah tho timvp gave Grizz in 6... shit happens

When TP can't drive the paint it allows defenders to play their man tighter. So he can't drive the lane because he doesn't have the explosiveness, and he has nowhere to pass because everyone is covered so his only option is to go back and forth in the backcourt as the offense does the 'rocking boat' routine from side to side. Last night he had the left lane as open as a carless freeway a few times and didn't go. You know he's hurting when he doesn't take that. Healthy Parker has an easy layup there. I say rest Parker go with Mills at least at home. Spurs will be on fire in game 3. Maybe test him late in game 4. Spurs win these two at home, this one is over.