Re: Tony Parker achilles injury thread
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ElNono
Manu was pretty darned good at 32, tbh, even with a broken arm... heck he was pretty darned good last season. He's not the go-all-out scorer he was earlier in his career, he adjusted into a playmaker role, which was easy for him since he was always a great passer. Numbers reflect the adjustment was positive. His AST% has progressively been going up from 22% from his prime to around 30% since 09-10.
That's not to say he had a great season this time around. But I think he'll be fine in that role, considering, as you said, the limits imposed in his body. And I still think he can have a major impact game here or there, like game 6 in OKC or game 5 of the Finals.
As far as Tony, I like his floor general game. I'm just not sure the Spurs were prepared for his decline (compounded by the injuries, which were somewhat unexpected since he took the whole summer off).
But when Manu was 32 he hadn't spent 13 years as the pg in a motion offense where he literally ran farther and faster than anybody else on his team.
By your own observations, when Manu was 32 he was primarily responsible for creating his own shot, evidenced by the assist % going up as he has increased his playmaker role.
Absolutely agree that Manu has done as good or better job at changing his game over the last few seasons as anybody in the NBA, imo. And agreed that his passing is not matched by anyone else on the Spurs team (possible exception of Diaw when he is paying attention, but still Manu is the best, imo).
And the injury problem is often a function of over-use. Had Tony actually NOT taken the summer off last year, this forum would be accusing him of caring more about his national team than the Spurs who pay him (kind of like they did when Manu was restricted by the team, not his own judgment last summer).
Hairston's point that Parker is still the best guard we have at getting and keeping the Spurs in their offense is valid. Manu remains the best passer, but his role does not (normally) require him to run as much as Tony.
I get as disgusted as anyone with TP's over-dribbling at times, but I try to remind myself that it is his job to probe the defenses with his dribble to see if he can find a seam. What I see as a failure on TPs and Pop's part is that they seem to refuse to acknowledge that the entire league has figured out that probing pattern and can defend it quite effectively, especially when TPs speed is off due to injury or fatigue or both.
Re: Tony Parker achilles injury thread
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dabom
:lmao
just wondering...are you and Robdiaz dating?
Re: Tony Parker achilles injury thread
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EVAY
just wondering...are you and Robdiaz dating?
:wakeup
Re: Tony Parker achilles injury thread
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dabom
:lmao
you too mr emoticon faggot
Re: Tony Parker achilles injury thread
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Originally Posted by
EVAY
But when Manu was 32 he hadn't spent 13 years as the pg in a motion offense where he literally ran farther and faster than anybody else on his team.
By your own observations, when Manu was 32 he was primarily responsible for creating his own shot, evidenced by the assist % going up as he has increased his playmaker role.
Absolutely agree that Manu has done as good or better job at changing his game over the last few seasons as anybody in the NBA, imo. And agreed that his passing is not matched by anyone else on the Spurs team (possible exception of Diaw when he is paying attention, but still Manu is the best, imo).
And the injury problem is often a function of over-use. Had Tony actually NOT taken the summer off last year, this forum would be accusing him of caring more about his national team than the Spurs who pay him (kind of like they did when Manu was restricted by the team, not his own judgment last summer).
Hairston's point that Parker is still the best guard we have at getting and keeping the Spurs in their offense is valid. Manu remains the best passer, but his role does not (normally) require him to run as much as Tony.
I get as disgusted as anyone with TP's over-dribbling at times, but I try to remind myself that it is his job to probe the defenses with his dribble to see if he can find a seam. What I see as a failure on TPs and Pop's part is that they seem to refuse to acknowledge that the entire league has figured out that probing pattern and can defend it quite effectively, especially when TPs speed is off due to injury or fatigue or both.
good take, especially last paragraph.
Re: Tony Parker achilles injury thread
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LongtimeSpursFan
I don't understand. The Spurs were up by 10 at this point. It is when Parker went to the bench that the offense stagnated.
The point is Skip Bayless doesn't know basketball..
Re: Tony Parker achilles injury thread
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The Reckoning
putting words in my mouth.
parker is trying to much to force plays that he used to be able to make but not any more. but since manu was able to make that transition to being a facilitator rather than creator, i think it's possible for parker to do so if he has the willpower. he's too slow now to create double teams.
but with parker in that role we can see the kind of ball movement we saw last year with manu running point imo, and parker has more potential.
this guy knows what he's talking about.
Re: Tony Parker achilles injury thread
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BatManu20
Skip with the truth bombs.
:wow
Re: Tony Parker achilles injury thread
Any word on how our team's warrior is feeling today? Any more ailments?
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Robz4000
Any word on how our team's warrior is feeling today? Any more ailments?
Quadriceps too. That was b4 game 2. :lmao
I swear Tony has like 4-8 things wrong with him. Vagina included. :lmao
