Kawhi regressed

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Originally Posted by daslicer

I said a few weeks ago that Bowen had a nastiness that neither Green or Kawhi possessed. Bowen took a lot of pride in stopping guys that if his man went off he would resort to dirty tactics because he really did take it as a sign of disrespect. Bowen was Rodmanesque when came to getting underneath guys skin. I still remember so many opposing players bitching about him being a dirty player including Chris Paul who bitched towards the league to get him suspended.

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Yeah I remember you preaching to these new age Spurs fans. It's funny that the dude who closest resembles his dirty tactics in today's NBA, is the scrub who guarded Kawhi this series :lol

Let me ask you a question. It's almost a daily routine for the Spurs to get torched by a scrub, you think not having a dirty/intimidating player on the team contributes to that? For example Griffin, it's a known fact that he shits the bed when someone comes at him hard. Then he runs into the Spurs... Timmy who pats him on the butt after a foul, Splitter who's known to be soft and gets his shit stuffed by guards, Bonner who shouldn't be in the league at this point, Diaw having a rep of being just a big nice guy, Kawhi won't talk in a 7 game series, etc

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Yeah I remember you preaching to these new age Spurs fans. It's funny that the dude who closest resembles his dirty tactics in today's NBA, is the scrub who guarded Kawhi this series :lol

Let me ask you a question. It's almost a daily routine for the Spurs to get torched by a scrub, you think not having a dirty/intimidating player on the team contributes to that? For example Griffin, it's a known fact that he shits the bed when someone comes at him hard. Then he runs into the Spurs... Timmy who pats him on the butt after a foul, Splitter who's known to be soft and gets his shit stuffed by guards, Bonner who shouldn't be in the league at this point, Diaw having a rep of being just a big nice guy, Kawhi won't talk in a 7 game series, etc

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I think psychologically yes I think teams respect the spurs but don't fear them and thats part of the reason why you'll have guys have career series against them at times. Just watch the next series with the Rockets and you will see Blake and Jordan both have some shit games due to the Rockets having some physical dirty players in Dwight,T.Jones,Dorsey. Also Ariza tends to be a dirty cheapshot player so you will see whoever he's guarding taken out of a comfort zone. Factor in Jason Terry who has always been a dirty player and you will see some the games become real chippy out there.

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Originally Posted by daslicer

I think psychologically yes I think teams respect the spurs but don't fear them and thats part of the reason why you'll have guys have career series against them at times. Just watch the next series with the Rockets and you will see Blake and Jordan both have some shit games due to the Rockets having some physical dirty players in Dwight,T.Jones,Dorsey. Also Ariza tends to be a dirty cheapshot player so you will see whoever he's guarding taken out of a comfort zone. Factor in Jason Terry who has always been a dirty player and you will see some the games become real chippy out there.

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Yup that's exactly what I'm saying. Thought I was the only one who noticed this, tbh. We need a Marcus Smart type player in the draft, unfortunately PATFO will probably go and look for more soft one dimensional players from the Euroleague.

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Originally Posted by daslicer

People in here hype him up to be the next Pippen but I can't recall Scottie ever having a hard time locking up a PG defensively.

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pippen never guarded a pg as fast and as good as Chris paul. He never guarded Isiah when the pistons were putting them out 3 years in a row. He didn't guard kg in the 93 finals when he was tearing bj armstrong a new asshole. He didn't guard Payton in 96. He didn't guard stockton in 97 or 98 and phil had no choice but to put him on Magic in 91 when Magic was putting jordan's little ass in the paint, but he didn't lick magic down. You were saying?

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Originally Posted by james evans

pippen never guarded a pg as fast and as good as Chris paul. He never guarded Isiah when the pistons were putting them out 3 years in a row. He didn't guard kg in the 93 finals when he was tearing bj armstrong a new asshole. He didn't guard Payton in 96. He didn't guard stockton in 97 or 98 and phil had no choice but to put him on Magic in 91 when Magic was putting jordan's little ass in the paint, but he didn't lick magic down. You were saying?

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That dude just got ethered. :lmao

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Originally Posted by james evans

pippen never guarded a pg as fast and as good as Chris paul. He never guarded Isiah when the pistons were putting them out 3 years in a row. He didn't guard kg in the 93 finals when he was tearing bj armstrong a new asshole. He didn't guard Payton in 96. He didn't guard stockton in 97 or 98 and phil had no choice but to put him on Magic in 91 when Magic was putting jordan's little ass in the paint, but he didn't lick magic down. You were saying?

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He guarded Mark Jackson in '98 playoffs.

Matt Barnes outplayed Kawhi in game 7.

Kawhi didn't play well offensively this series, that's no secret. He fell in love with the jump shot and stopped being aggressive.


The great thing about Kawhi is that he's likely about 3-4 years away from his prime. I don't know how far a Spurs team with him as our leading scorer can go in the future. He's definitely going to need a lot of help. As great as he is, I don't think he'll be ever be an elite scorer. But if we can somehow find a way to bing in another 17-20 ppg scorer, as well as a couple other good role pieces, that'd help alleviate some of that pressure on him and I think better allow him to flourish offensively.

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Originally Posted by robdiaz2191

kill yourself fuking faggot. porker had 16 shots while kawhi had 5 at the half or early in the 3rd/

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:lol thread about kawhi
:lol bring up parker

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Originally Posted by robdiaz2191

how was he supposed to make a statement when there was a time there that parker had 16 shot attempts and kawhi had 5? are you fucking stupid or?

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Originally Posted by robdiaz2191

answer brah. how was kawhi supposed to take over when parker was chucking out there?

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Originally Posted by robdiaz2191

How was Parker this series old faggot?

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Originally Posted by robdiaz2191

How was Parker this series? Homo.

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Originally Posted by robdiaz2191

DG sucked all series on defense except for tonight. Tiago was shit and Parker well he's the shittiest defender on the Spurs. That leaves Kawhi trying to cover for 3 guys defensively. He did a great job on Redick in games 1-5. If he had to focus on Redick only the entire series then he would of easily shut him down. But that wasn't the case. Pop had him guard Paul, Griffin, and Redick and Barnes. 2 superstars, a clutch 3 point specialist and a very gritty player in Barnes. Now that's exhausting. Think about how much work Kawhi was asked to do defensively this series and then get back to me.

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thread about kawhi

cant stop talking about parker

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Originally Posted by therealtruth

He guarded Mark Jackson in '98 playoffs.

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Mark jackson in 98 aint Chris paul in 2015

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

thread about kawhi

cant stop talking about parker

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parkers shittiness affects the the entire team

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Originally Posted by BatManu20

Kawhi didn't play well offensively this series, that's no secret. He fell in love with the jump shot and stopped being aggressive.


The great thing about Kawhi is that he's likely about 3-4 years away from his prime. I don't know how far a Spurs team with him as our leading scorer can go in the future. He's definitely going to need a lot of help. As great as he is, I don't think he'll be ever be an elite scorer. But if we can somehow find a way to bing in another 17-20 ppg scorer, as well as a couple other good role pieces, that'd help alleviate some of that pressure on him and I think better allow him to flourish offensively.

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THIS.

My thoughts exactly, at SDSU I never saw him as an elite scorer. I've just been riding the train in absolute glee watching his development. Awful let down these last 3 games. He just lost his aggressiveness like you said. I think the pressure of having the spot light finally got to him. There won't be anyone who will work harder than him to turn it around, and he will have stretches of dominating, and I for one would be ecstatic if he could play at an elite level consistently, but I don't think he has that shooting touch of the Clippers Crawford or Redick who made those big shots down the stretch filling in for Paul. It's been a let down for us all but it was bound to happen. I'll still look forward to watching him play, but Chris Paul is the guy that blows my mind, he's truly phenomenal and the Spurs just ran into a superior team.

What was the purpose of the last two months? They put Leonard in the post relentlessly and he flourished. They set screens for the mid range jumper or cleared out so he could attack. His best stretch of basketball. Clippers double him in game one and he struggles. So the Spurs use him as a screener in game 2. He comes back strong in games 3 and 4 while handling the double and sometimes triple team better than I expected. Game 5 was a mix bag, game 6 was a nightmare of rimmed out shots. Game 7 they used him as a screener or parked him the corner in the first half. Finally in the 4th they used him up top as a passer.

Both sides need to figure it out this summer. This isn't about whether he can handle the main option or not. The same issues will be there whether he's the 2nd or 4th option.

It shouldn't be this hard to play to his strengths. How can both sides still not know what to do?

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Originally Posted by loveforthegame

What was the purpose of the last two months? They put Leonard in the post relentlessly and he flourished. They set screens for the mid range jumper or cleared out so he could attack. His best stretch of basketball. Clippers double him in game one and he struggles. So the Spurs use him as a screener in game 2. He comes back strong in games 3 and 4 while handling the double and sometimes triple team better than I expected. Game 5 was a mix bag, game 6 was a nightmare of rimmed out shots. Game 7 they used him as a screener or parked him the corner in the first half. Finally in the 4th they used him up top as a passer.

Both sides need to figure it out this summer. This isn't about whether he can handle the main option or not. The same issues will be there whether he's the 2nd or 4th option.

It shouldn't be this hard to play to his strengths. How can both sides still not know what to do?

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Pop let Kawhi down this season. He really did.

The key to being an elite scorer is being able to score in a variety of ways. He's got to get better at drawing fouls and getting to the freethrow line. He's got to keep on his low post game and creating offense from there. Then he's got to be able to consistently drive and draw a foul, get a basket, or create a shot. That will open up his outside game even more. When he scored 32 in game 3, that's who Doc pointed out they couldn't guard. I don't know why the Spurs went away from that.

The point is elite scorers put so much pressure on the defense because they're constantly attacking and creating good things for their team.

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Originally Posted by therealtruth

The key to being an elite scorer is being able to score in a variety of ways. He's got to get better at drawing fouls and getting to the freethrow line. He's got to keep on his low post game and creating offense from there. Then he's got to be able to consistently drive and draw a foul, get a basket, or create a shot. That will open up his outside game even more. When he scored 32 in game 3, that's who Doc pointed out they couldn't guard. I don't know why the Spurs went away from that.

The point is elite scorers put so much pressure on the defense because they're constantly attacking and creating good things for their team.

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Easier said than done when your PG is taking 20 shots a game.

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Originally Posted by robdiaz2191

Easier said than done when your PG is taking 20 shots a game.

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If Kawhi could go off on Lebron why did we go away from him when he only had Matt Barnes defending him?

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Originally Posted by therealtruth

If Kawhi could go off on Lebron why did we go away from him when he only had Matt Barnes defending him?

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Ask Pop and Parker.

Kawhi is fine he's young and he's a stud.

No he's not a franchise player but he's a legit 2nd banana

We need. 1st banana or were fucked

he's only a role player at best, and has reached his potential
a star will demand the ball from the point and make his shot, kawhi cant do that

Role player...It's so funny.

People still doubt he's an efficient and prolific scorer when he was the main Spur scorer in the last 25 games of the season, averaging since February 27th almost 19 ppg in just 13FGA.

I still think he is a rising star who will rebound from this stronger and will build on his Defensive POY award.

I must admit I found KL playoff performance a bit disappointing. As the heir apparent to the Big 3, Kawhi was suppose to be the go-to and match Griffin's production. Instead, I saw several instances where he was just not aggressive enough. I know the porker crew wants to lay blame at Parker's feet but at some point Kawhi has to demand the ball and take it strong.