Danny Green HUGE UPDATE

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

I read in the comments section of a youtube video that they are making room to bring in Anthony Davis.

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:lmao

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Originally Posted by Mugen

:lol People willing to go back to the Keith Bogans / Roger Mason era

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Amazing they seem to forget how shitty the wings were from 09-11.

This thread highlights the stupidity of the average basketball fan who only appreciates scoring. It must suck to be that stupid tbh.

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Originally Posted by timtonymanu

Amazing they seem to forget how shitty the wings were from 09-11.

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Amazing that people watched DG do nothing against, who defended him?, the Clippers and are willing to give him a raise.

I like Green, and would not want to see him go, but Spurs saved him, they put up with his trash series, I think he owes them more than Spurs owe Danny. He cant forget where he came from either

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Originally Posted by AFBlue

I think most people look at Danny and say he's an incomplete player; that he can't create offense for himself due to his poor handles and lack of ability to finish at the rim. They also see a player that struggles with bouts of inconsistency on both ends of the floor. Now, if you're operating in a vacuum when Green is feeling it on offense or especially locked in on D, and you're not considering the implications an eight figure deal would have on the rest of your roster, then he's worth every bit of what he's likely to get.

But the Spurs don't operate in a vacuum. Bottom line...Danny's not just a product of the system, but he will never be a go-to guy. The Spurs need to focus on keeping or getting their go-to guys, even if it's at the expense of one of their best role players.

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Green should never be mistaken as a go-to-guy. I don't think he would ever be. He is what he is, an elite 3 & D role player. Despite his shortcomings and inconsistencies, he has to be stick around. Sorry, I don't agree with your last statement about dumping Green to get a go-to-guy. If the Blazers were wanting Green + Splitter for Aldridge, I would say no. The Spurs having another elite perimeter defender in Green makes Kawhi's job easier and he doesn't have to expend so much energy on both ends. Just think back to the starting 2's we had from 2009 - 2011. Letting terrible NBA players like RMJ, 40 year old Finley, and Bogans be our starting wings. I don't want the Spurs to go through that again. Green isn't as replaceable as posters think, imo. Unless the Spurs can realistically sign a 3&D replacement that can match Green's impact.

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Originally Posted by tholdren

Amazing that people watched DG do nothing against, who defended him?, the Clippers and are willing to give him a raise.

I like Green, and would not want to see him go, but Spurs saved him, they put up with his trash series, I think he owes them more than Spurs owe Danny. He cant forget where he came from either

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Did you not watch the way he D'd up Paul you fucking moron? Are you too stupid to pay attention to both sides of the court? Even when his shots aren't falling he gives you elite defense. When they are falling (which is often) he's a Top 5 role player in the entire NBA.

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Originally Posted by tholdren

Amazing that people watched DG do nothing against, who defended him?, the Clippers and are willing to give him a raise.

I like Green, and would not want to see him go, but Spurs saved him, they put up with his trash series, I think he owes them more than Spurs owe Danny. He cant forget where he came from either

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Green owes the Spurs for helping him break out. For sure. But I always disagree with posters that think Pop's system made Danny Green a competent NBA player or that Green couldn't find success on other teams.

Regardless of how much you think he should earn, Green is a major upgrade over what trash we had starting at the 2 from 09-11. Luckily, Manu had a resurgence year in 2011 because our starting 2's were absolutely terrible otherwise. If Green never broke out, the Spurs would have been stuck with a broken James Anderson/undersized Gary Neal at the 2. It doesn't look promising for the Spurs at the 2 if they can't find a Green replacement, in addition to replacing Manu.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

This thread highlights the stupidity of the average basketball fan who only appreciates scoring. It must suck to be that stupid tbh.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

Did you not watch the way he D'd up Paul you fucking moron? Are you too stupid to pay attention to both sides of the court? Even when his shots aren't falling he gives you elite defense. When they are falling (which is often) he's a Top 5 role player in the entire NBA.

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No he doesnt. And that's the problem.

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Originally Posted by AFBlue

I think most people look at Danny and say he's an incomplete player; that he can't create offense for himself due to his poor handles and lack of ability to finish at the rim. They also see a player that struggles with bouts of inconsistency on both ends of the floor. Now, if you're operating in a vacuum when Green is feeling it on offense or especially locked in on D, and you're not considering the implications an eight figure deal would have on the rest of your roster, then he's worth every bit of what he's likely to get.

But the Spurs don't operate in a vacuum. Bottom line...Danny's not just a product of the system, but he will never be a go-to guy. The Spurs need to focus on keeping or getting their go-to guys, even if it's at the expense of one of their best role players.

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If Danny Green had handles and could create his own shot, he'd be a max player with the shooting range and defensive ability he has.

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Originally Posted by tholdren

No he doesnt. And that's the problem.

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Are you mentally retarded? Maybe that's the real problem.

Not only did he D up Paul any time Pop had his head out of his ass long enough to give him minutes but he also made Crawford his bitch all series long.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

Are you mentally retarded? Maybe that's the real problem.

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:lol He also said Baynes would replace and succeed at Splitter's role against the Clippers.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

Are you mentally retarded? Maybe that's the real problem.

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If Green doesn't come back then Tim might as well call it a career

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfUmw3GgASM&app=desktop

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Originally Posted by FkLA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfUmw3GgASM&app=desktop

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Hell yeah. posting things from the past. Let's put up Tony from 2007

Advanced stats show manu and Danny pretty much equal, with Ginobili having the slight edge in defensive production during the clippers series.

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Originally Posted by tholdren

No he doesnt. And that's the problem.

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Originally Posted by timtonymanu

:lol He also said Baynes would replace and succeed at Splitter's role against the Clippers.

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I did. I thought he would - but they both did the same. Couldnt score, got manhandled on defense, played soft. Get rid of them both.

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Originally Posted by timtonymanu

Green should never be mistaken as a go-to-guy. I don't think he would ever be. He is what he is, an elite 3 & D role player. Despite his shortcomings and inconsistencies, he has to be stick around. Sorry, I don't agree with your last statement about dumping Green to get a go-to-guy. If the Blazers were wanting Green + Splitter for Aldridge, I would say no. The Spurs having another elite perimeter defender in Green makes Kawhi's job easier and he doesn't have to expend so much energy on both ends. Just think back to the starting 2's we had from 2009 - 2011. Letting terrible NBA players like RMJ, 40 year old Finley, and Bogans be our starting wings. I don't want the Spurs to go through that again. Green isn't as replaceable as posters think, imo. Unless the Spurs can realistically sign a 3&D replacement that can match Green's impact.

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I never said one go-to was worth two solid role players, and I understand how having Green next to Kawhi helps lessen the burden of expending all his energy on D. But, in the end all he'll ever be is a role player. And if you have to give him up to get a go-to guy then you do it. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

Oh and I remember the Finley days well. But seeing as how Kawhi is going nowhere, there's no chance we'll revert back to that.

If it was to sign Butler yes. LMA no.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

If Danny Green had handles and could create his own shot, he'd be a max player with the shooting range and defensive ability he has.

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Agreed, and he'd be another go-to guy. And the Spurs would double max Kawhi and Danny, and they'd be the future of the franchise. But he's not. And he likely never will be. The point is that the Spurs have flexibility to keep Kawhi and get that type of franchise go-to guy. I for one won't blame them if they let Danny go to make that happen.

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Originally Posted by timtonymanu

:lol He also said Baynes would replace and succeed at Splitter's role against the Clippers.

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He said Baynes > Pau Gasol IIRC:lol..

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Originally Posted by FkLA

Are you mentally retarded? Maybe that's the real problem.

Not only did he D up Paul any time Pop had his head out of his ass long enough to give him minutes but he also made Crawford his bitch all series long.

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He had a great series, but that is exactly what's so maddening about Danny. The guy flashes brilliance but can't put it together consistently on either side of the ball. You can call people names and act like everyone who doesn't hold your position is unintelligent, but that doesn't make it true or you right.

Danny was actually very consistent last year in the playoffs. I think the only truly bad game Danny had was game 5 of the finals which at that point the old sport wasn't needed. Granted, if Danny would've been able to hit the 3 this year against the clips, he would have been the deciding factor in this series but his defense was on par with what we needed especially on Paul.