Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 50s51 seconds ago
The NBA salary cap has risen to $70M for the 2015-'16 season, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 50s51 seconds ago
The NBA salary cap has risen to $70M for the 2015-'16 season, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 15s15 seconds ago
The NBA's team tax level will be $84.7M, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
Good
Spurs get Aldridge, get David West to walk away from 11mil, re-sign Kawhi, get Danny Green to stay, Manu to come back, Timmy to come back, and Porky to work out again.
What a dream offseason tbh.
Does this mean we could have kept CuJo? Ah well... at least this makes 100% certain the last remaining good PG on the team will be back.
that is higher then it was going to be
This means we can keep patty.
for 30 million LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
nope. not unless duncan took the minimum.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
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Bobby Marks @BobbyMarks42 · 2m2 minutes ago
Huge jump in cap and tax. Will benefit under the cap and tax teams big time. Not sure the total effect yet but it's a game changer for teams
Dont think the Spurs would have offered anything close to the deal Cojo got from the raptors.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
So how much money do the Spurs have left to spend?
Guarantees Patty is staying (unless they can trade him for something they find more important - doubtful), that they won't pay tax (most likely that will be the case) & that they might be able to get a player back in the ATL trade for this year (assuming Tim might take a little less than the 6M reported)
Does this mean West can get more than Vet min?
probably give any extra to duncan. if not, probably about a million dollars.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
We actually could have, since we wouldn't have had to renounce the Larry Bird rights we had to him... not that we would have matched it, but we legally could have...Quote:
Originally Posted by TXstbobcat
holy fuck.
good news!
give the rest to Duncan.
David Aldridge @daldridgetnt · 2m2 minutes ago
$70M cap for '15-'16 even bigger than $69M number teams were working off of at start of the week. Means slightly bigger max deals for FAs.
If anything from ATL, I want that tall young guy. But I really want Cady Lalanne on the team this year. He's big and a heck of a shot blocker (and a fouler, but so was Baynes). And we have a gaping hole at center, despite our armada of great PFs. Also, we're not trading away Patty, that would leave a black hole at the 1 position, and Manu is too old to play both PG and SG all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
don't think so. don't think we would be enough under the cap to fit a contract that is higher than vet. min.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Go keep Patty now. WOW.
Excellent news. Flexibility is such a great weapon
Kind of sad too see Cojo leave but happy for him getting such a great contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
Aldridge and Leonard will get some extra too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aztecfan03
Pretty sure his bird rights were still too much. We were only able to keep patty because we thought cap was rising to 69.1Quote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
So does that mean the Spurs have the MLE as long as they hold off on resigning Duncan until after they use it? It worked for Cleveland.
Now to sign a 3rd pg, c, and SG/SF
Hoping too. Like Tavares.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
http://www.foxsports.com/south/story...tavares-070215
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by murpjf88
Tavares pls. Cmon Bud.
No. DOn't even know how you got this idea but not even close.Quote:
Originally Posted by murpjf88
no thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
David Aldridge @daldridgetnt · 47s48 seconds ago
Slight correction: players will get back $57.2M in shortfall payments, & will get back the 10% of their salaries placed in escrow for 14-15.
stfu ducks
Can we still add a decent big ? I mean maybe not really as cheap as West, but who can really help Duncan in the middle..
MLE goes away with the signing of Aldridge. And DUncan needs to be signed before aldridge to get rid of his large cap hold. ANd if you use MLE before you sign ALdridge, you don't have the space to sign Aldridge.
can we get Tiago back?
David Aldridge @daldridgetnt · 1m1 minute ago
And: max salaries for '15-'16:
0-6 years of service: $16,407,500
7-10 years: $19,689,000
10+ years: $22,970,500
Losing Patty would have meant kissing the championship window goodbye...permanently. Even prime LeBron, Kareem, Duncan and Jordan wouldn't win many games 4 on 5 against other NBA teams.
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Originally Posted by Aztecfan03
Aldridge isn't signed yet.
So for those interested in the new math for Kawhi & LMA's max deals:
Kawhi - 0-6 years - 25%
LMA - 6-10 years - 30%
So KL: 70M Cap * .94 = 65.8M * .25 = 16.45M
So LM: 70M Cap * .94 = 65.8M * .30 = 19.74M
You not read the last sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by murpjf88
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http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/imag...quote_icon.pngOriginally Posted by Aztecfan03
MLE goes away with the signing of Aldridge. And DUncan needs to be signed before aldridge to get rid of his large cap hold. ANd if you use MLE before you sign ALdridge, you don't have the space to sign Aldridge.
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Originally Posted by BatManu20
close enough :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Pay Timothy Theodor Duncan !! Disgrace if we force another pay cut on him the way he carried our asses last year..
:lol I just rounded up that .94. I don't know exactly what it works out to be (could work backwards) but it's close enough to make you dangerous.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Tavares looks so much better than those clangy Serbian clones that everyone seems to favor. Tavares actually has a chance to be an impact player -- a guy that big with those hands just doesn't come along very often. (And one of the reasons you may think he looks slow is just that he's so huge -- 7'3".)Quote:
Originally Posted by NickiRasgo
this is what i got working backwards: 0.93757142857Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 2m2 minutes ago
With new cap, LaMarcus Aldridge maximum contract with Spurs: Four-years, $84.1M.
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Kawhi Leonard max contract with Spurs now: 5-years, $95.3M.
Get that money fellas.
That never gets old... :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Looks right - I just rounded up for ease of doing business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aztecfan03
3.1415926535897932Quote:
Originally Posted by Aztecfan03
With the cap jump & assuming Tim stays at 6M as reported, SA can include Reggie Williams w/ Tiago and take back a small player. MaNu4Tres suggested someone like Kent Bazemore
Bazemore has some balls.. We could live with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
He's expendable as well w/ the Justin Holliday signing and the trade for Tim Hardaway Jr.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Would love for it to happen, doubt it tho.
the only thing that changes is the salary of Duncan... he take more
Duncans not to crazy about money. If he wanted to, he could start getting sponsored and more into that marketting bs. Easily a lot more money for Duncan. Salary is more for boasting rights, which we know Tim doesnt give a chit about
Cool. This means the Spurs keep Mills for sure and Duncan gets his 6M. Also raises for Aldridge and Leonard.
What if they are waiting to announce because Hardaway is the piece? Got to wait 30 days to trade him.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Don't think Hardaway is up for grabs. I think he's replacement(insurance) for Carroll who left.Quote:
Originally Posted by palangi
I'd rather Tim just get the remaining money.
Impending: Kevin Seraphin to the Spurs for 1 yr/3m
When will we know the full details of the Atlanta deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
I would imagine tomorrow. Trade has to be finalized before they can sign LMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uriel
That would be greatQuote:
Originally Posted by Roger Freemason Jr.
Why did people think the Spurs couldn't keep Mills?
Probably due to previous reporting citing an assumed $67 mil cap.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
It didn't increase that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by NASpurs
But he's already under contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Keep Mills and still have enough room for an Aldridge max deal. Looked like he might have to be traded away along with Splitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
because tim at around 6 mil, aldridge max, and cap @67 didn't leave room for Mills to be kept around.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Well that's why I don't put all my eggs in the ST cap estimate basket. A team wouldn't have him recruit a free agent if he was going to be salary dumped the next week.
The Atlanta trade terms will be interesting.
Also of interest is what exact understanding the Spurs have with Duncan. From what I understand the gist of it is a 2 year deal with the 2nd year partially guaranteed such that (assuming that this is Duncan's final season) he ends up with $10 mil for his last season. Presumably they could also get there with a 2 year $11 mil deal with most of the 2nd year guaranteed, if they needed more room this summer. Maybe that was a thought before West signed up for the vet min.
to complete the trade for Splitter the Atlanta Hawks send....Austin Daye back to the Spurs
that was after an estimated increase to 69.1 milQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Estimated by whom?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aztecfan03
Don't you guys think that actual NBA teams might have had a better handle on the cap number than we message board types?
I don't believe dumping Patty was ever in the cards once Duncan committed to his cut -- and I think that was done long ago.
That's great news -- Duncan deserves at least that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by NASpurs
Well, before that nugget came out, many were estimating off only the known cap amounts at the time. As more news broke, the variables changed - especially with that meeting/cap jump.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I know. It's just that these estimates are almost never right.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
True - we should have known this year in particular might have an abnormally large change too. So much going on with money coming in and such. Hard to pin things down.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
But same with Green - most national reporters kept saying that Spurs "likely" had to trade Tiago and let Green go to get LMA.
So many grains of salt. i was pretty surprised with the quickness of the Splitter trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
So I would imagine we know Tim's salary by tomorrow. Tim has to be the first to sign. Spurs need to sign him first to remove his cap hold - then finalize Tiago trade. Should know a lot more details tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by DPG21920
Being able to afford to keep Patty is huge. I saw the first pre-season game last season, and my only comment was how much of a problem it was for him to be out. It's hard to imagine any player that would be more important, that the Spurs could afford. Now, I think, nobody has to wonder if they might have to move him for money purposes. The cap increase benefits every team, but I think the Spurs will make more of it than most.
I know the Spurs and Hawks have ties, but do you really think they would send any more help to a team that's already had such a field day this offseason? I didn't think West would sign for the min, so right about now I'm ready to believe that anything is possible.
why do people think patty is leaving? he was there during the first meeting with aldridge
Read above a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Holden_Caulfield
I am not sure. On one level - it makes sense because Tiago is a really valuable player and it would be incredible if ATL just got him for nothing in return. On the other hand, they likely had some leverage since they knew SA had to do a trade of Splitter to go after LMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by GSH
I wouldn't be surprised either way, but if I had to guess, I would imagine SA gets SOMETHING back - even if it's not a player for this year.
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I think when people hear something often enough, it seeps in. So many of the writers were so certain that Green might be on the trade block, and I think they started suggesting that maybe they could get by with "just" trading Patty. Just a guess. But most of the comments here probably have more to do with the articles/tweets out there than anything else.
For me personally, the Patty stuff stemmed from not banking on Tim taking small money and the inital salary cap. I was firmly on the Green is staying bandwagon though.
And that, yeah. The idea of Tim playing for peanuts is still sort of alien. I know, one more ring, and all that. But it's still strange to think about him playing for a bargain.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920