San Antonio has agreed to a trade a future second-round pick for Ray McCallum

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Originally Posted by Arcadian

How does Mills feel about this? I wonder if he thought he would be the full-time backup PG when Joseph left. Hopefully there was a clear understanding between him and the coaching staff that he's more of a combo guard on this team.

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Manu is the backup PG. McCallum is just a solid 3rd stringer.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

RM is a poor man's Cojo. Spurs should've held on to their pick and found whatever summer league reject they needed to find, imo. That said, I think RM will work out well enough as a third stringer.

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CoJo's best asset was his defense which isn't McCallum's strong suits although their offensive arsenal is similar.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

I remember you saying that last year, but I didn't see in the CBA FAQ where the difference was. Would you be willing to clarify?

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First, I'm not 100% of it because it has always seems weird to me.

When you sign a FA with cap space, you can't give him more the cap room.
When you trade while under the cap, you have to still be under the cap+$100K after the trade.
As a result, with a trade where you trade nothing for a player, you get a roster charge and $100K as extra room.

In Spurs case (to simplify I will say Duncan is signed after Aldridge while the opposite will likely happen but it change nothing for the first year of Tim's contract).

Spurs salaries after Aldridge signing:
Aldridge: $19,689,000
Parker: $13,437,500
Diaw: $7,500,000
Mills: $3,578,947
Anderson: $1,142,879
Green Hold: $7,647,500
Leonard Hold: $7,135,148
5 cap hold: 5* $525,093

For a total of $62,756,439

With the cap at $70M, there is $7,243,561 in cap room to give at Duncan.

Now if you do the McCallum trade after the Duncan signing, Spurs salaries will be :
Aldridge: $19,689,000
Parker: $13,437,500
Diaw: $7,500,000
Duncan: $7,243,561
Mills: $3,578,947
Anderson: $1,142,879
McCallum: $947,276
Green Hold: $7,647,500
Leonard Hold: $7,135,148
3 cap hold: 3* $525,093

For a total of $69,897,090 so the trade respect the CBa since Spurs stay below the cap + $100K.


it seems weird but I think it's how it works.

The Kings did all the dirty work for the Spurs with this kid. His first 2 years they spent developing him, giving him valuable minutes, letting him learn from his mistakes, let him get up shots, run the offense etc. Kings fans said he really improved as the season went on, they liked his potential.

This 3rd year could easily be his breakout year where he puts it all together, a lot like how Cojo came out of nowhere this year. SAC is a terrible franchise and the Spurs took full advantage of them and swooped him up.

I wonder if we'll see him at SG, he has serious athleticism and has good size.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

First, I'm not 100% of it because it has always seems weird to me.

When you sign a FA with cap space, you can't give him more the cap room.
When you trade while under the cap, you have to still be under the cap+$100K after the trade.
As a result, with a trade where you trade nothing for a player, you get a roster charge and $100K as extra room.

In Spurs case (to simplify I will say Duncan is signed after Aldridge while the opposite will likely happen but it change nothing for the first year of Tim's contract).

Spurs salaries after Aldridge signing:
Aldridge: $19,689,000
Parker: $13,437,500
Diaw: $7,500,000
Mills: $3,578,947
Anderson: $1,142,879
Green Hold: $7,647,500
Leonard Hold: $7,135,148
5 cap hold: 5* $525,093

For a total of $62,756,439

With the cap at $70M, there is $7,243,561 in cap room to give at Duncan.

Now if you do the McCallum trade after the Duncan signing, Spurs salaries will be :
Aldridge: $19,689,000
Parker: $13,437,500
Diaw: $7,500,000
Duncan: $7,243,561
Mills: $3,578,947
Anderson: $1,142,879
McCallum: $947,276
Green Hold: $7,647,500
Leonard Hold: $7,135,148
3 cap hold: 3* $525,093

For a total of $69,897,090 so the trade respect the CBa since Spurs stay below the cap + $100K.


it seems weird but I think it's how it works.

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Cheers Bruno. :toast Thanks for the good info as always.

He's a coach's son, and has a gigantic bballiq. He's already one of pop's favorites out of the gate. He's like Eddie House but with a Brent Barry bball I q.

Had a plan for that future 2nd.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

First, I'm not 100% of it because it has always seems weird to me.

When you sign a FA with cap space, you can't give him more the cap room.
When you trade while under the cap, you have to still be under the cap+$100K after the trade.
As a result, with a trade where you trade nothing for a player, you get a roster charge and $100K as extra room.

In Spurs case (to simplify I will say Duncan is signed after Aldridge while the opposite will likely happen but it change nothing for the first year of Tim's contract).

Spurs salaries after Aldridge signing:
Aldridge: $19,689,000
Parker: $13,437,500
Diaw: $7,500,000
Mills: $3,578,947
Anderson: $1,142,879
Green Hold: $7,647,500
Leonard Hold: $7,135,148
5 cap hold: 5* $525,093

For a total of $62,756,439

With the cap at $70M, there is $7,243,561 in cap room to give at Duncan.

Now if you do the McCallum trade after the Duncan signing, Spurs salaries will be :
Aldridge: $19,689,000
Parker: $13,437,500
Diaw: $7,500,000
Duncan: $7,243,561
Mills: $3,578,947
Anderson: $1,142,879
McCallum: $947,276
Green Hold: $7,647,500
Leonard Hold: $7,135,148
3 cap hold: 3* $525,093

For a total of $69,897,090 so the trade respect the CBa since Spurs stay below the cap + $100K.


it seems weird but I think it's how it works.

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I see. So the Spurs gain a bit over a million in your scenario because they drop two roster charges by inking Tim and acquiring McCallum.

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Originally Posted by 99 Problems

Had a plan for that future 2nd.

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A draft and stash?

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Originally Posted by BillMc

Cheers Bruno. :toast Thanks for the good info as always.

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:toast :flag: :hat :)

Nice pick up. Has nice speed, composed, a jumper, finishes at the rim.

All his highlights are him scoring... it seems like we have Patty to do that already... can he defend?

So has the board put this guy in Springfield yet?

I think Cutewizard has a rough draft blue print for his wing.

Nothing that Engellland can't handled :wakeup

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Originally Posted by random21

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/ray-mccallum

Strengths: McCallum is a well-rounded "stat sheet stuffer" point guard who can both score and distribute ... Has good size and strength for his position, standing 6'1 and weighing a muscular 190 ... An excellent transition player, McCallum can both score and distribute on the break ... Has a high basketball IQ and knows how to get his teammates involved ... Makes up for his average speed with his ability to use his body to get open looks around the rim. Has excellent body control overall ... Can be a good scoring point guard (18.7 PPG last season) ... Very good ball handler ... A good floor general and a coach's son ... Draws a lot of contact and gets to the line at a high rate ... Underrated athlete who has a 40 inch vertical and deceptive explosiveness ... Solid, if not spectacular passing ability and floor vision ... Good at finding teammates cutting to the basket ... Quick hands (1.9 SPG) last season and good lateral quickness make him a solid defender ... Plays well without the ball, making sharp cuts to get good looks in the lane ... Rebounds well for a point guard (5.1 RPG last season) ... Despite playing in the Horizon League, performed well against good competition ... McCallum is a very durable player, as evidenced by 37 or more minutes in each of the last 14 games of the season ...

Weaknesses: Doesn't do any one thing particularly well, as there are several more talented shooters, playmakers, defenders, and athletes among this point guard class ... Needs to improve his shooting ability, as he shot only 32% from behind the 3pt line last season ... Shot low percentages on all jump shots ... Doesn't have great length or physical tools, which will limit him at the next level ... Has an awkward shooting motion and releases the ball somewhat slowly ... Is too prone to taking pull-up jumpers early in the shot clock, especially when he is not a particularly efficient spot-up shooter ... Needs to become a better free throw shooter. Shot just 72% from the line last year...

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Nothing that Engelland can be afraid of.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

First, I'm not 100% of it because it has always seems weird to me.

When you sign a FA with cap space, you can't give him more the cap room.
When you trade while under the cap, you have to still be under the cap+$100K after the trade.
As a result, with a trade where you trade nothing for a player, you get a roster charge and $100K as extra room.

In Spurs case (to simplify I will say Duncan is signed after Aldridge while the opposite will likely happen but it change nothing for the first year of Tim's contract).

Spurs salaries after Aldridge signing:
Aldridge: $19,689,000
Parker: $13,437,500
Diaw: $7,500,000
Mills: $3,578,947
Anderson: $1,142,879
Green Hold: $7,647,500
Leonard Hold: $7,135,148
5 cap hold: 5* $525,093

For a total of $62,756,439

With the cap at $70M, there is $7,243,561 in cap room to give at Duncan.

Now if you do the McCallum trade after the Duncan signing, Spurs salaries will be :
Aldridge: $19,689,000
Parker: $13,437,500
Diaw: $7,500,000
Duncan: $7,243,561
Mills: $3,578,947
Anderson: $1,142,879
McCallum: $947,276
Green Hold: $7,647,500
Leonard Hold: $7,135,148
3 cap hold: 3* $525,093

For a total of $69,897,090 so the trade respect the CBa since Spurs stay below the cap + $100K.


it seems weird but I think it's how it works.

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So who the hell did we trade splitter for?!?!

That draft.net scouting report is very promising. Seems like a good fit.

Better than any PG on the free agent market, RC is a walking surprise party!

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Originally Posted by RD2191

http://giant.gfycat.com/HarmfulFreeBull.gif

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4yrs $30M. Could. Not. Afford.

But I will miss him too. RIP CoJo-nes

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

asked around, kings fans say his calling card is his defense. they also say the spurs are the perfect place for him to thrive (though tbh thats a trendy thing to say about virtually any lower tier player in the nba)

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Great pick up then, Spurs need someone to cover the very quick guards like Westbrook. His 40 inch vertical and bulk should help him. Doesn't have length and can't shoot, but should be good enough to be a spark plug.

Good value pickup to address a lower roster need. Like many, I can't say I've read up on Ray much other than some pre-draft reports from a couple years back, but I trust the FO scouting department to have done their homework.

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Originally Posted by TrainOfThought5

So who the hell did we trade splitter for?!?!

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Space to afford Aldridge guy

Good move, limited commitment 1 yr/$1 mil.

Kings apparently trying to create cap space now. Look at the Kings when any of you jokers want to complain about this summer. Anyways, maybe Pop worked the Serb angle with Divac.

Still, perhaps it was something else....

Divac http://images3.kurir-info.rs/slika-9...879-309767.jpg Do you smoke?

McCallum http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.ele...Callum-Ray.jpg Wha?...um, er....no.

Divac http://images3.kurir-info.rs/slika-9...879-309767.jpg You have been traded.

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Originally Posted by KL2

The Kings did all the dirty work for the Spurs with this kid. His first 2 years they spent developing him, giving him valuable minutes, letting him learn from his mistakes, let him get up shots, run the offense etc. Kings fans said he really improved as the season went on, they liked his potential.

This 3rd year could easily be his breakout year where he puts it all together, a lot like how Cojo came out of nowhere this year. SAC is a terrible franchise and the Spurs took full advantage of them and swooped him up.

I wonder if we'll see him at SG, he has serious athleticism and has good size.

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Crazy that the Kings made all the investment on him to then give him away for a Spurs 2nd round pick.

I guess they think they are loaded in the back court and can't keep his services after it expires in a year.

One year rental, but good insurance. Someone needs to play point guard when Parker is injured or resting.

Considering it cost next to nothing, Spurs win again!