Splitter traded for 2007 second-rounder Georgios Printezis and top-55 protected 2017

We drafted him :lol

lol

http://sanctuaryucc.org/wp-content/u...-pump-baby.jpg

Yay we got Printezis back :)

Sigh... no Tavares.

Why will the Spurs pick up a 2007 draft pick... are they ready to bring him in?

He will never come :)


It's juste a salary dump, at least they could have take an unprotected second round pick ......

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

We drafted him :lol

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:lol...thought that name looked familiar.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

Sigh... no Tavares.

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You done been told, son.

:lol

He had some good games in this year euroleague with Olympiakos but i would be surprised if he comes to san antonio

Thats lame as fuck

Well, at least its official. Time to sign Timmy, LMA, Danny, Kawhi, Manu and David. :toast

:lol so for nothing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl32W8Q4d28

No Greeks.

Greek Lightning.

:lmao

2017 top 55 protected... hmm Hawks in the East may still end up with a top 5 record in 2016... 2017 maybe not.

Printezis is a fine European player.
I still remember how happy he was that Spurs drafted him in 07' just before learning he was traded to Raptors.

Spurs didn't a that great return for Splitter but it really really doesn't matter given the circumstances. Spurs got fucking Aldridge and West thanks to that trade!

Savior, tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zqD9y3n3cc

Could have gotten at least an unprotected 2nd rounder... Pop getting fleeced.

I understand Duncan is signing for $5million so there will $2million left.

Wow we're lucky we got LMA or this deal would have been one of the worst of all time for us.

This is a sad joke. Really sad.

:lmao if the aldridge deal didn't happen

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Originally Posted by Budkin

Wow we're lucky we got LMA or this deal would have been one of the worst of all time for us.

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Yup :lol Tim and Manu would have straight up left

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Originally Posted by ceperez

This is a sad joke. Really sad.

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You have hope man..maybe there's an under the table deal that Tavares is traded for diaws contract next season. Can't happen this year because there is no space. So give him a year with spurs east.

See, no dream ever dies on spurstalk, it just gets recycled

Sorry, but us Spur fans are greedy.

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Originally Posted by K...

You have hope man..maybe there's an under the table deal that Tavares is traded for diaws contract next season. Can't happen this year because there is no space. So give him a year with spurs east.

See, no dream ever dies on spurstalk, it just gets recycled

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Well, Austin Daye got waived... so maybe the Spurs pick him up from the waiver line.

Most ridiculously insane return. Is this Georgios Printezis at 30 years old even ready to suit up for the NBA?

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Printezis is a fine European player.
I still remember how happy he was that Spurs drafted him in 07' just before learning he was traded to Raptors.

Spurs didn't a that great return for Splitter but it really really doesn't matter given the circumstances. Spurs got fucking Aldridge and West thanks to that trade!

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:tu

So the reason for the second is so the NBA didn't have to rule whether Printezis is "reasonably likely to come over". I imagine that that was the hangup a couple days ago. Rights to guys who have very little chance of coming over don't count as "something" for trade purposes. The pick erases that distinction.

So why not just the pick? The Spurs probably have some believe that Georgios may be willing to come over. What position does he play? Is there a chance he could survive in the big leagues?

The return on Splitter IS Aldridge.

Given the way the details of this were made public, I suspect that there might have been some sort of agreement to make this a bigger trade if the Aldridge thing had fallen through.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

So the reason for the second is so the NBA didn't have to rule whether Printezis is "reasonably likely to come over". I imagine that that was the hangup a couple days ago. Rights to guys who have very little chance of coming over don't count as "something" for trade purposes. The pick erases that distinction.

So why not just the pick? The Spurs probably have some believe that Georgios may be willing to come over. What position does he play? Is there a chance he could survive in the big leagues?

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He's a PF. I can't imagine they'd bring another PF on board with Duncan, Aldridge, Diaw and West already there.

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Originally Posted by spurfan

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

He's a PF. I can't imagine they'd bring another PF on board with Duncan, Aldridge, Diaw and West already there.

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It's possible that only LMA and Tim are Spurs this time next year, though. West will almost certainly move on, and Diaw has a partially guaranteed deal.

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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown

The return on Splitter IS Aldridge.

Given the way the details of this were made public, I suspect that there might have been some sort of agreement to make this a bigger trade if the Aldridge thing had fallen through.

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Yep. Hawks get Splitter. We get Aldridge. Portland gets nothing.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

So the reason for the second is so the NBA didn't have to rule whether Printezis is "reasonably likely to come over". I imagine that that was the hangup a couple days ago. Rights to guys who have very little chance of coming over don't count as "something" for trade purposes. The pick erases that distinction.

So why not just the pick? The Spurs probably have some believe that Georgios may be willing to come over. What position does he play? Is there a chance he could survive in the big leagues?

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SF/PF ... but looking at his pathetic stats, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgios_Printezis

Last year he had the highest scoring average of his career.

I agree with you... if a 2007 pick isn't likely to come over, then why even bother giving it away?

I don't think this guy can make it in the NBA though.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

It's possible that only LMA and Tim are Spurs this time next year, though. West will almost certainly move on, and Diaw has a partially guaranteed deal.

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I... doubt it. He's established over there. I can't imagine a minimum deal would be appealing, and he'd be jammed behind all those post guys.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

I... doubt it. He's established over there. I can't imagine a minimum deal would be appealing, and he'd be jammed behind all those post guys.

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Next off-season, is what I was talking about.

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

:lmao if the aldridge deal didn't happen

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Spurs would had gone DeAndre Jordan on the Hawks :lol

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Next off-season, is what I was talking about.

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Oh, maybe.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

I... doubt it. He's established over there. I can't imagine a minimum deal would be appealing, and he'd be jammed behind all those post guys.

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He plays for a Greek team... haven't you been watching the news about Greece lately?

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Originally Posted by ceperez

He plays for a Greek team... haven't you been watching the news about Greece lately?

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So what? Are they burning players for warmth? He can move to Spain or Israel or something.

He would be a stretch 4/hustle guy, his outside shot is not that great though. Loves putting up floaters and flip shots. His ability to switch onto smaller players on D is probably his best asset but I'm not sure how well that translates against NBA guards.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

It's possible that only LMA and Tim are Spurs this time next year, though. West will almost certainly move on, and Diaw has a partially guaranteed deal.

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You think? The Spurs should have $10 million or so to pay West assuming something hovering around a $90 million 2016 cap, and the 2016 free agent crop is pretty weak anyways. I though Diaw was fully guaranteed until 2017-18 when the Spurs have an option on his deal.

Holy fuck. Is anyone around here ever happy?

"Trading Splitter to Atlanta essentially netted us Aldridge and West, but we only got rights and a pick from Atlanta directly...:cry Oh well...at least we might be able to pick up Austin Daye from the waiver wire...:cry"

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So what? Are they burning players for warmth? He can move to Spain or Israel or something.

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What I mean is, his Greek team will be so broke that they can't pay him.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

You think? The Spurs should have $10 million or so to pay West assuming something hovering around a $90 million 2016 cap, and the 2016 free agent crop is pretty weak anyways. I though Diaw was fully guaranteed until 2017-18 when the Spurs have an option on his deal.

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The Spurs are going to majorly capped out next season. Hell, they'll be pushing the tax very soon this year. I dunno if they'll have space for West or if they even want to reup him. A lot is still up in the air.

Diaw has $3 Million this next season guaranteed. The rest and all of next season is not. No option, though.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

What I mean is, his Greek team will be so broke that they can't pay him.

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That's possible, but I'd imagine other Euro teams could pay him a lot more than NBA minimum if he's any good.

Some fans will never be satisfied.

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That's possible, but I'd imagine other Euro teams could pay him a lot more than NBA minimum if he's any good.

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Did you see his stats? They aren't any good.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

The Spurs are going to majorly capped out next season. Hell, they'll be pushing the tax very soon this year. I dunno if they'll have space for West or if they even want to reup him. A lot is still up in the air.

Diaw has $3 Million this next season guaranteed. The rest and all of next season is not. No option, though.

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Their payroll should be about $80 million next season assuming both Duncan and Ginobili return, and Manu returning for a second season is probably a pipe dream.

EDIT: Seems more like about $84 million counting the rises in LMA and Kawhi's salaries due to the higher cap. Yeah, they could lose West if Manu plays another year.

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Originally Posted by nickdaquick

Some fans will never be satisfied.

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I think you got it wrong. I'm pretty thrilled about the Spurs move this offseason.

What I don't like is what the Hawks gave in return for a gift. Bunch of ingrates!

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Originally Posted by nickdaquick

Some fans will never be satisfied.

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Here especially. If we traded a future second round pick for LeBron, there would be someone here arguing against it.

this is absolute bs, treated splitter like shit

don't be surprised if manu, mills and diaw just don't perform this year pissed because they dumped their best friend

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Originally Posted by testies

this is absolute bs, treated splitter like shit

don't be surprised if manu, mills and diaw just don't perform this year pissed because they dumped their best friend

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You're joking I'm sure but, if not, this might be one of the worst posts on this site ever.

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Originally Posted by testies

this is absolute bs, treated splitter like shit

don't be surprised if manu, mills and diaw just don't perform this year pissed because they dumped their best friend

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and then aldridge drops 38 and we win by 14 anyway

Not sure why people find this surprising. Sure, it looks lop-sided when you compare the talent level on paper, but this trade was a straight salary dump for the Spurs. If the Spurs got talent back, they would've been paying for it...which defeats the purpose of dumping salary. Atlanta was probably one of few, if not the only team that was willing to help the Spurs move Splitter just so they could clear room for LMA. They had all the leverage, and they used it.

Top 55 protected...:lol How useless is that?

The Greek guy is a stretch four and will be better than bonner if he comes over...

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this is absolute bs, treated splitter like shit

don't be surprised if manu, mills and diaw just don't perform this year pissed because they dumped their best friend

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I thought Parker was Diaw's best friend on the team?

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Their payroll should be about $80 million next season assuming both Duncan and Ginobili return, and Manu returning for a second season is probably a pipe dream.

EDIT: Seems more like about $84 million counting the rises in LMA and Kawhi's salaries due to the higher cap. Yeah, they could lose West if Manu plays another year.

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They've both got options, so I think them returning is going to involve them getting paid. Plus the first-rounders HAVE to come over at some point. And McCallum is going to be an RFA and want to get paid (whether the Spurs pay him is a different matter). 2017 should see the Spurs flush with cap space. But next season, no.

Da Fuck?

We literally gave him away. ATL had 7 second rounders in the next 3 years and we get a pick that won't convey.

Great deal for both sides in the end, will not complain.

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You're joking I'm sure but, if not, this might be one of the worst posts on this site ever.

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He's a :troll

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Originally Posted by Chinook

They've both got options, so I think them returning is going to involve them getting paid. Plus the first-rounders HAVE to come over at some point. And McCallum is going to be an RFA and want to get paid (whether the Spurs pay him is a different matter). 2017 should see the Spurs flush with cap space. But next season, no.

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The MLE will probably be about $7.5 million next year and the Spurs will still have Bird Rights on Duncan. Won't have them on Ginobili though, crap.

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Great deal for both sides in the end, will not complain.

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Like people said, great indirect deal - Aldridge for Splitter.
Best case for all parties involved.

Splitter gets moved to a coach, team, system he's familiar with.
Atlanta's in the East, so they will make the playoffs and make LBJ work a little harder.
Splitter's not joining a West contender.
Spurs get the $$$ to sign Aldridge.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

The MLE will probably be about $7.5 million next year and the Spurs will still have Bird Rights on Duncan. Won't have them on Ginobili though, crap.

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The MLE doesn't scale with salary anymore, and the Spurs will have Bird rights on both Tim and Manu. But their cap holds will be 50-percent bigger than their current salaries.

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Originally Posted by Splits

:lol so for nothing

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It's all about that cap space...

Hot little deal!

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Originally Posted by Chinook

The MLE doesn't scale with salary anymore, and the Spurs will have Bird rights on both Tim and Manu. But their cap holds will be 50-percent bigger than their current salaries.

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How are the Spurs going to have Bird Rights on Manu? Unless you're talking about using capspace instead of renouncing and using the room exception.

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Thats lame as fuck

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If I told you two months ago that the Spurs would be in a three-team trade where they got Lamarcus Aldridge and gave up Tiago Splitter to the eastern conference, would you have been happy?

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How are the Spurs going to have Bird Rights on Manu? Unless you're talking about using capspace instead of renouncing and using the room exception.

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Renouncement doesn't kill the "Bird clock" as I've heard it called. It just prevents teams from using the rights that year. So next year, Manu will once again be a vested Bird free agent.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

If I told you two months ago that the Spurs would be in a three-team trade where they got Lamarcus Aldridge and gave up Tiago Splitter to the eastern conference, would you have been happy?

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If that's what actually happened, yeah.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Renouncement doesn't kill the "Bird clock" as I've heard it called. It just prevents teams from using the rights that year. So next year, Manu will once again be a vested Bird free agent.

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Nice. That's pretty shitty the MLE is no longer tied to average salaries. Man Hunter really fucked the players over in 2011.

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Nice. That's pretty shitty the MLE is no longer tied to average salaries. Man Hunter really fucked the players over in 2011.

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He may have been the worst union head in pro sports since the advent of unions in pro sports.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

If that's what actually happened, yeah.

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Isn't it? Do we care how it happens if it happens? The bonus to the above scenario is, Portland got nothing in the deal.

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He may have been the worst union head in pro sports since the advent of unions in pro sports.

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http://legacy.thenationnetwork.net/u...nald-fehr.jpeg

ATL got one over on the Spurs in a bubble but makes total sense on both sides. It's on now.

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http://legacy.thenationnetwork.net/u...nald-fehr.jpeg

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nah. Fehr wanst nearly as bad, he just orchestrated that stupid strike, but the owners were just as fucking guilty. Fehr is what Fehr is, but didnt end up raping his players from his deals signed.

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Isn't it? Do we care how it happens if it happens? The bonus to the above scenario is, Portland got nothing in the deal.

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The idea of a three-way trade would be for the Spurs to stay over the cap (which would have had a ton of value to the Spurs). Because that didn't happen, I was pretty adamant that the Spurs should get value for Splitter.

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nah. Fehr wanst nearly as bad, he just orchestrated that stupid strike, but the owners were just as fucking guilty. Fehr is what Fehr is, but didnt end up raping his players from his deals signed.

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Billy Hunter never managed to cancel the NBA finals.

If we had got no Aldridge, this would have sucked. But just.basically a 3 team trade with blazers getting nothing.

lmao KBP

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Billy Hunter never managed to cancel the NBA finals.

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That's because Stern never would have allowed it, mostly because he literally GOT EVERYTHING HE WANTED FROM THE UNION AND THEN SOME.

Fehr wasnt going to let the owners bend over the players sans lube.

MLB is very well off now as a result.

What a steal for us

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Originally Posted by ElNono

lmao KBP

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VSpan thread!!

SA doesn't get a trade exception from the deal since they are using the Cap-room created by the trade, correct?

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SA doesn't get a trade exception from the deal since they are using the Cap-room created by the trade, correct?

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Semi correct. They get a TE, but have to renounce it for cap space.

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Originally Posted by Das Texan

nah. Fehr wanst nearly as bad, he just orchestrated that stupid strike, but the owners were just as fucking guilty. Fehr is what Fehr is, but didnt end up raping his players from his deals signed.

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He also spawned the great "we have nothing to fear but Fehr himself" line.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Semi correct. They get a TE, but have to renounce it for cap space.

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Thanks DPG

Still a better return than Austin Daye

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Billy Hunter never managed to cancel the NBA finals.

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or prevent a player from hitting .400...:depressed

Welcome home Printezis

What a terrible return. I would've thought there would be something better out there.

The ability to opt out of the trade better have been a part of this deal.

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or prevent a player from hitting .400...:depressed

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Big lost season. Matt Williams had a shot at Maris. The Expos were a superteam.

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or prevent a player from hitting .400...:depressed

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Tony Gwynn wasnt hitting .400 and Matt Wiliams wasnt hitting 62 homers that season.