Simply amazing the sacrifice he's making. :worthy:
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Simply amazing the sacrifice he's making. :worthy:
sounds like we have a little cap room then.Quote:
Originally Posted by loveforthegame
:wow $5 M?
:wow
WE ARE WITNESS!!!!
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The spurs owe there success to Mr. Duncan. He has been the secret weapon of a small market franchise that has enjoyed major market franchise success. His sacrifices year in and out has been a big factor of why the spurs are able to field a good to great team year in and out. Cheers Mr. Duncan:bobo
:worthy:
+1 billionQuote:
Originally Posted by spurspokesman
(and hope he plays both years! :toast)
$5 million? Holy shit.
he is just awesome ... GOAT
With this news and the cap being a bit higher than expected, can the Spurs get enough cap space to give Manu the same money as the room exception without actually using it?
5 million a year for a top 15 player in the league.
That's why he's GOAT.
Good question. Maybe they have someone they're targeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seventyniner
Nice, very nice. We have him and Manu making sacrifices, let's hope that can have their last ring. :flag:
With this sacrifice, he deserves to finish out these next two years with that elusive repeat.
:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt:
Time to get the man B2B championships!
Man, Duncan's worth $20 million and he signs for $5 million so the Spurs can go get another $20 million player too? And West is probably an $8 or $9 million player for $1.5 million. We have to be the most fucking spoiled fanbase in all of professional sports.
:toast
Don't screw this one up Pockface.
Meanwhile demoneky gets 20 mil.
:worthy:
Tim = GOD
Ain't it great?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
nicely doneQuote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
This basically means the Spurs will absolutely have the Room Exception, as they have enough to sign Manu to his deal using Cap Space. They just have to cut Williams and renounce Bonner. They can always resign both to the Vet Min.
With the Room Exception available, I hope the Spurs offer it to Shved. He would be the perfect wing in the Spurs system. I guess Duncan took less so the Spurs could have the Room to add yet another piece to the roster. Nothing but Love for Duncan both on and off the court.
I'd rather the Spurs hold onto the space than the room exception as long as they can. Cap space is more valuable.
But I wonder why Tim took the discount? Cap space is cool, but it's limited. Do they plan on making another trade (only thing cap space can do that exceptions can't [besides claiming guys off waivers])?
Wow...
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpurPadre
And I trust PATFO to maximize our chances. Meanwhile, poor Dirk gave away all that cash and the Mavs squandered it...
Spurs will have about 3mil in Cap if they do use the room exception on Manu, sign Duncan to a 5mil year deal and Sign LMA. That is enough to lure another solid contributor for the Spurs bench. Like I said, I hope its Shved. Give Pop a player to talk Russian to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
Holy shit...
:worthy:
These players better win and repeat for Duncan. He sacrificed a ton of money for them all. They better pay off that debt with their play on the hardwood. GO SPURS GO!!!
:flag::wowShit...
What is the maximum according to league rules he could be paid year 2?
$5.375 MillionQuote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Anyway to sign Manu to the remaining cap space and have the a Room Exception to chase someone else?
pretty sure that's whats happeningQuote:
Originally Posted by DesignatedT
More than likely he will opt and sign for a little more if he does decide to play another year as the cap is suppose to go to 90mil next year. This year's deal ensures the Spurs have some extra cap space to get another Solid contributor. So Green or Kawhi won't be resigned until the Spurs decide what to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
You fatsos don't deserve Timmy tbh.
Thanks. So, if tim retires after this season he'd get that too, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
If he wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Got it. Thanks for the clarification.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
Duncan better be well compensated after he retires......
Who cares. When he retires he can be the team's ambassador or whatever for $10 mil per.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
This fan base barely deserves him.
What a fucking rock star.
I bow to you Mr. Duncan.
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Originally Posted by BillMc
has that ever happened though? i remember we used to discuss thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
Tim will be given part ownership when he's done, that's all but guaranteed.
Lets get Durrant next year. :bobo
I'd be hard pressed to name a player who has done more for a single organization than Tim Duncan has for the Spurs.
It's hard to believe players have not lined up over the years to play with tim. He has been the definition of a model team mate. When others mess up he fields the blame (unlike KOME) when they are due for contracts he takes less to keep them(unlike KOME) and he never throws his teammates under the bus. I hope Tim wins 2 more for all his sacrifices, his Jersey will always hang in my mancave as I don't think another spur will replace him.
Amazing. Timmy is the absolute best :toast
This cannot be stated and bolded enough! Incredible sacrifice from Tim, and his character is heads and shoulders above so many players like the Deandre Jordans, Kobe Bryants, et al…Quote:
Originally Posted by spurspokesman
Duncan deserved better than the shitfest Pop and Parker pulled against the Clips. Pop pulling Patty for Parker was a slap in the face to Duncan.
Yeah but it was still a classless move by Jordan, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
And to think not too long ago Tim lost about 25 million being screwed over by his investor or something? And he is still sacrificing for this team and setting an example. God reincarnated.
:worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::w orthy:
Are you kiddin' ? 5M ? if report is true... it is just unbelievable :wow
Yes. It happened with McDyess. Someone on the Lakers got at least a year's worth from Buss. It's a gray area legally whether a player is entitled to their remaining salary, so usually it gets arbitrated with a buyout, and it's rare for the player to NOT get a least part of their salary. That's why it was such a big deal with Kidd gave up his Knicks salary to coach the Nets.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
Except that the cap space will disappear once all the deals (Kawhi, Green, etc) are signed. The Spurs could hold on to the room exception for a while, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
That number is not a coincidence. Based on my calculations, it's about what it takes for the Spurs to carry a 14-man roster and stay under the tax line. Perhaps 15 if one of them is Lalanne or another rookie.
"as long as they can"Quote:
Originally Posted by Seventyniner
You're right. But the Spurs would be better off making whatever signing they want to make with that extra room now as opposed to waiting. They can use that space on trades. Can't use the RE on that.
I mean, the Spurs aren't THAT close to the tax line.Quote:
Originally Posted by jhfenton
Agree 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by SpurPadre
i really hope the remaining cash is NOT used to sign Bonner.
Add up the salaries, including the $947,276 for 4 vet min folks and McCallum (his actual salary). They're currently at $84.3MM with 14 players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
They would just have to sign a player first before resigning Green, Kawhi, etc. Either way, like I said, the Spurs do have enough to sign Manu using cap, so the Spurs will AT LEAST the Room to work with. I think they actually have slightly more cap right now than the Room. They just need to cut Williams and renounce Bonner, which I am thinking will happen. They can always sign those two back with the Vet Min.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seventyniner
The key was determining the cap and what Duncan was going to resign for. 1.5mil less than the reported 6.5 mil earlier and the cap went up by 3mil. Spurs had just enough to sign Aldridge to the Max at 67mil with Manu taking the Room and Duncan at 6.5mil. So they have at least 3-4mil in cap to work with after cutting Williams and renouncing Bonner.
Just for perspective
Salaries for next year:Splitter: $8.8 millionJoseph: $7M Belinelli: $6MBaynes: $6MDuncan: $5M
Bonner will be renounced to clear cap space and signed again using the Vet min if he comes back AFTER the signings with the open cap space are made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurfan4ever20
How much do you have West for? Really rough calculations have the spurs closer to $82 Million in tax.Quote:
Originally Posted by jhfenton
You're right. That number would allow Manu at something like $2,771,564 under the cap, leaving the room exception out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
Maybe TD decided to give up money, so more could be given to West.
His charge should be $947,276. His actual salary would be $1.49MM, but that would only matter to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
You need to bump the KL and LMA contracts to reflect the new maxes. KL will be at $16.4MM and LMA will be at $19.7MM.
Send Timmy out with a b2b
39 year old should be playing for the vet min! Overpaid!
EDIT: oh shit, forgot to log into my testies account
Just Kawhi's. I'm assuming that everyone fits into the cap but West and Green and Leonard's overages. $8 Million for Kawhi, $3 Million for Green and $1 Million for West. That's $82 Million. Then minus the three roster charges ($1.5 Million) and you're closer to $81 Million. That's enough to fill out the roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by jhfenton
Spurs should not be in danger of tax - but either way Tim did this for a reason. Maybe things changed as the variables changed but either way -Wow!
But the fact he took that number likely stemmed early on from intentions of avoiding tax & keeping Danny/Mills. When the cap jumped it likely shifted to SA having a chance at small deals like Ray while keeping the original priorities in tact. Now with the big cap jump? Means Spurs still have cap space or the room exception.
Wish Gerald Green wouldn't have taking the min w MIA now.
srsly, thank you timmy! :toast
Is there even a wing available worth spending that money on? Maybe I'm blanking out, but I'm having trouble thinking of one. Ellington and Green both got snatched up today. Alan Anderson is gone. Maybe Dorell Wright?Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Another alternative is using that money to get a serviceable center.
There are still some options for SG&C but perhaps it comes via trade or buyout down the road. Lots of options.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursFan86
OK. I'm open to the possibility that I have a number wrong, but here's what I have:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
- Parker @ 13,437,500
- Green @ 10,000,000
- Leonard @ 16,407,500
- Aldridge @ 19,689,000
- Duncan @ 5,000,000
- Mills @ 3,578,947
- Ginobili @ 2,814,000
- Anderson @ 1,142,879
- Diaw @ 7,500,000
- West @ 947,276
- McCallum @ 947,276
- Vet min @ 947,276
- Vet min @ 947,276
- Vet min @ 947,276
Total = $84,306,206
If Ginobili signed for $2,771,564 under the cap and someone else got the Room exception, they'd be at $86,130,494 with 14 players.
I'm liking the idea of Cole Aldrich for us at center.
Timmy the ma'fuckin Gawd. Love that dude.
Meanwhile Kobe's going to make 5X that this season alone :lol
I'll have to check later. But perhaps I am missing something.Quote:
Originally Posted by jhfenton
West is about $1.4 million and I think McCallum is $450k.Quote:
Originally Posted by jhfenton
West's salary is $1.49 million. His charge to the Spurs is $947,276.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Where does your number for McCallum come from? His salary is $947,276.
Timmy Da GAWD. :worthy:
GOAT. Timmy will always and forever be my favorite Spur...
WOuldn't mccallum make the 11th player, so 4 more contracts adds up to 15 players.Quote:
Originally Posted by jhfenton
1-5. parker,green,kawhi,lma,duncan
6-10.mills,manu,KA,diaw,west
11. mccallum
edit: i forgot west is one of those vet min folks.
A quick google search on McCallum showed his salary at $490k.Quote:
Originally Posted by jhfenton
West was the 4th vet min guy. Look at my list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aztecfan03
that's wrong. It's 900 something thousand.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
That's not correct according to several online sources. It also wouldn't match with the current rookie scale for a 3rd year 2nd rounder.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
I have a feeling that someday Timmy will be the highest paid part time asst coach in history...or maybe he'll just be called a consultant.Quote:
Originally Posted by 024
Nor would it matter, since the contract gets scaled up for tax purposes.Quote:
Originally Posted by jhfenton
Duncan at $5m gives us around $2.8m in cap room. Expect us to sign Manu to cap space and keep the Room Exception for a waived player mid season
Right. Which is why the number is the same $947,276 as the other vet mins. That's the two-year vet min.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
If the Spurs waive Williams and renounce Bonner (which they probably will as both can be brought back with the Vet min), they will have the full MLE. But factor in the Ray trade and so they will have around 4.3mil in cap to work. That should be more than enough to sign an impact player. They will have to use this before signing Green/Kawhi/West, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richie
As I have said repeatedly, I hope the Spurs try and get Shved. Be the perfect replacement for the Beli role on this team. If Butler wants to come here, he can for the Vet Min like West.
No. Richie was correct. They'll have $2,771,564 or so under the cap to sign Manu. That will put them exactly at $70.0MM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
They will not have the full MLE, just the Room.
Edited: Did you gross up LMA's contract to the actual max based on the new cap? It will be at $19,689,000, a lot more than originally estimated.
GOAT!Quote:
Originally Posted by loveforthegame