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Re: Duncan finalizing 2 year deal
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Originally Posted by
spurspokesman
The spurs owe there success to Mr. Duncan. He has been the secret weapon of a small market franchise that has enjoyed major market franchise success. His sacrifices year in and out has been a big factor of why the spurs are able to field a good to great team year in and out. Cheers Mr. Duncan:bobo
This cannot be stated and bolded enough! Incredible sacrifice from Tim, and his character is heads and shoulders above so many players like the Deandre Jordans, Kobe Bryants, et al…
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Duncan deserved better than the shitfest Pop and Parker pulled against the Clips. Pop pulling Patty for Parker was a slap in the face to Duncan.
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Originally Posted by
BillMc
Agreed.
And I trust PATFO to maximize our chances. Meanwhile, poor Dirk gave away all that cash and the Mavs squandered it...
Yeah but it was still a classless move by Jordan, IMO.
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And to think not too long ago Tim lost about 25 million being screwed over by his investor or something? And he is still sacrificing for this team and setting an example. God reincarnated.
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:worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::w orthy:
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Are you kiddin' ? 5M ? if report is true... it is just unbelievable :wow
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Originally Posted by
spurraider21
has that ever happened though? i remember we used to discuss this
Yes. It happened with McDyess. Someone on the Lakers got at least a year's worth from Buss. It's a gray area legally whether a player is entitled to their remaining salary, so usually it gets arbitrated with a buyout, and it's rare for the player to NOT get a least part of their salary. That's why it was such a big deal with Kidd gave up his Knicks salary to coach the Nets.
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
I'd rather the Spurs hold onto the space than the room exception as long as they can. Cap space is more valuable.
Except that the cap space will disappear once all the deals (Kawhi, Green, etc) are signed. The Spurs could hold on to the room exception for a while, right?
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That number is not a coincidence. Based on my calculations, it's about what it takes for the Spurs to carry a 14-man roster and stay under the tax line. Perhaps 15 if one of them is Lalanne or another rookie.
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Originally Posted by
Seventyniner
Except that the cap space will disappear once all the deals (Kawhi, Green, etc) are signed. The Spurs could hold on to the room exception for a while, right?
"as long as they can"
You're right. But the Spurs would be better off making whatever signing they want to make with that extra room now as opposed to waiting. They can use that space on trades. Can't use the RE on that.
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Re: Duncan finalizing 2 year deal
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Originally Posted by
jhfenton
That number is not a coincidence. Based on my calculations, it's about what it takes for the Spurs to carry a 14-man roster and stay under the tax line. Perhaps 15 if one of them is Lalanne or another rookie.
I mean, the Spurs aren't THAT close to the tax line.
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Originally Posted by
SpurPadre
Yeah but it was still a classless move by Jordan, IMO.
Agree 100%
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i really hope the remaining cash is NOT used to sign Bonner.
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
I mean, the Spurs aren't THAT close to the tax line.
Add up the salaries, including the $947,276 for 4 vet min folks and McCallum (his actual salary). They're currently at $84.3MM with 14 players.
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Originally Posted by
Seventyniner
Except that the cap space will disappear once all the deals (Kawhi, Green, etc) are signed. The Spurs could hold on to the room exception for a while, right?
They would just have to sign a player first before resigning Green, Kawhi, etc. Either way, like I said, the Spurs do have enough to sign Manu using cap, so the Spurs will AT LEAST the Room to work with. I think they actually have slightly more cap right now than the Room. They just need to cut Williams and renounce Bonner, which I am thinking will happen. They can always sign those two back with the Vet Min.
The key was determining the cap and what Duncan was going to resign for. 1.5mil less than the reported 6.5 mil earlier and the cap went up by 3mil. Spurs had just enough to sign Aldridge to the Max at 67mil with Manu taking the Room and Duncan at 6.5mil. So they have at least 3-4mil in cap to work with after cutting Williams and renouncing Bonner.
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Just for perspective
Salaries for next year:Splitter: $8.8 millionJoseph: $7M Belinelli: $6MBaynes: $6MDuncan: $5M
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Originally Posted by
Spurfan4ever20
i really hope the remaining cash is NOT used to sign Bonner.
Bonner will be renounced to clear cap space and signed again using the Vet min if he comes back AFTER the signings with the open cap space are made.
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Originally Posted by
jhfenton
Add up the salaries, including the $947,276 for 4 vet min folks and McCallum (his actual salary). They're currently at $84.3MM with 14 players.
How much do you have West for? Really rough calculations have the spurs closer to $82 Million in tax.
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Originally Posted by
Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
They would just have to sign a player first before resigning Green, Kawhi, etc. Either way, like I said, the Spurs do have enough to sign Manu using cap, so the Spurs will AT LEAST the Room to work with. I think they actually have slightly more cap right now than the Room. They just need to cut Williams and renounce Bonner, which I am thinking will happen. They can always sign those two back with the Vet Min.
The key was determining the cap and what Duncan was going to resign for. 1.5mil less than the reported 6.5 mil earlier and the cap went up by 3mil. Spurs had just enough to sign Aldridge to the Max at 67mil with Manu taking the Room and Duncan at 6.5mil. So they have at least 3-4mil in cap to work with after cutting Williams and renouncing Bonner.
You're right. That number would allow Manu at something like $2,771,564 under the cap, leaving the room exception out there.
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Maybe TD decided to give up money, so more could be given to West.
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
How much do you have West for? Really rough calculations have the spurs closer to $82 Million in tax.
His charge should be $947,276. His actual salary would be $1.49MM, but that would only matter to him.
You need to bump the KL and LMA contracts to reflect the new maxes. KL will be at $16.4MM and LMA will be at $19.7MM.
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Send Timmy out with a b2b
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39 year old should be playing for the vet min! Overpaid!
EDIT: oh shit, forgot to log into my testies account
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Re: Duncan finalizing 2 year deal
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Originally Posted by
jhfenton
His charge should be $947,276. His actual salary would be $1.49MM, but that would only matter to him.
You need to bump the KL and LMA contracts to reflect the new maxes. KL will be at $16.4MM and LMA will be at $19.7MM.
Just Kawhi's. I'm assuming that everyone fits into the cap but West and Green and Leonard's overages. $8 Million for Kawhi, $3 Million for Green and $1 Million for West. That's $82 Million. Then minus the three roster charges ($1.5 Million) and you're closer to $81 Million. That's enough to fill out the roster.
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Spurs should not be in danger of tax - but either way Tim did this for a reason. Maybe things changed as the variables changed but either way -Wow!