3rd in RPM last year.
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3rd in RPM last year.
Timmy, in his own way...Take out TD from the his team now and we are probably 1st round exit considering all whole intangibles he takes way from it..
Take away kawhi and we lottery team.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
50/50 ball over 4 years says that.
I disagree, taking the Spurs record without Kawhi and his DPOY award into consideration, I take Kawhi last year. But hey, what a luxury to debate between the two. I would love for Tim to be as efficient as last year, I'd love to be wrong, that'd mean Timmy is going to be killing it at 40. Tim and Manu are my favorite Spurs, but it's a lot to ask these guys to continually carry the team. At some point there has to be a transition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brazil
it is hard to imagine where Aldridge fits because we have no sample size. I'll have to bump this at the end of the year. I just hope health holds for all of these players.
Now that is funny! I'm gonna miss the poster prop that is Baynes. He got paid, can't argue with that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Godbama
Tim played 13 more games, logged 200 more minutes, lead in points, rebounds, blocks and WS has equivalent or better advanced stat than Kawhi and has been the best player during the series against Clippers.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPURt
not sure how he is not Spurs best player last year
Diaw is one of the real leader if this groupQuote:
Originally Posted by Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
Duncan did not lead Kawhi in pts and it's not like Duncan was killing Kawhi in the advanced stats. If Duncan was so much better than Kawhi, why didn't he get defensive player of the year? Kawhi was taking out the other team's best player while leading the team in scoring and only averaging one assist per game less than Tim. I don't even think Kawhi has come close to a ceiling. I'm also not down playing Tim's contribution. He made some other younger players on the team look shameful with his ability to still out play them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brazil
.Alpha is the pack leader. The most dominant, powerful, or assertive man in a particular group. If the Alpha starts talking, everyone shuts up and listens. The Alpha leads by example and others follow without questioning. IMO Aside from Pop, if Duncan starts talking in the huddle, everyone is listening. He may not be known for doing that, but if he does everyone listens. My top 8 list.
8. West (Can and will move up because he does have a leadership mentality)
7. Diaw (great 2nd line leader)
6. Mills (See: Manu x2)
5. Kawhi (leads more by example, not vocal)
4. LMA (will assert himself as a leader quickly)
3. Manu (Firestarter in the huddle and court, gets the nod because of experience)
2. Parker (vocal leader, must be for a PG)
1. TD (He's Mutha Fuc*%n Tim Duncan)
Defense doesn't always show up in stats and Kawhi is a better defender than Tim last year. No debating that. Kawhi edges out tim last year due to defense and decent offensive production.
:lol who said much better ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SPURt
He has had a better season than everybody... deal with it tbh it's cool
:lol the "alpha" in basketball is not a real thing, tbh..that's part of the beauty of the Spurs, they don't buy into this media fabricated, narrative shit..
It's part of the Dad Killer legacy.."clutch gene", "alpha", "will to win", "killer instinct", etc are all traits that were fabricated by the NBA media due to the presence of Dad Killer..they're all stupid attributes and wouldn't have resonated as well if they were created in today's era..the lack of social media and thorough coverage allowed a player like Dad Killer to be an "alpha" and punch his teammates, throw them under the bus, etc without mainstream media coverage, and his "competitiveness" was portrayed as "alpha leadership"..
You don't have to be an "alpha" to be a great leader or teammate..
We were blowing out teams with Kawhi and Pop kept benching him. Totals doesn't mean shit but we are talking about a resident troll here whose favorite player is a washed up dleaguer. Anyone watching the spurs would know that though.
Alpha is a term created by player fans, who need an excuse for the player they like more than their team putting up 30 shots a game while they don't make the playoffs. This isn't a pack of dingoes, this is a team sport. There aren't Alphas on successful teams, there are leaders, many who lead by example. Duncan had 27 points and 11 rebounds in the last game he played. If he's not the best leader by example in the history of sports then he's in the top two. I'll take that over an Alpha every fucking day.
You can state opinions as facts as much as you want, anyone watching the Spurs close the season and in the previous Finals knows Kawhi was the Spurs most valuable player before dissappearing against LAC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brazil
Had Tony not been shit last year we wIN 4-0.
Like HarlemHo says above, no alphas in the Spurs system but Aldridge has to be the 1st option. Hit a couple of midranges to open up the floor to allow everyone else to go to work. Team effort in the end but for spacing, Aldridge has to eat first.
I love Kawhi, and he's certainly a big time player, but he is just still not yet there up even with current Timmy as being an automatic show-up in a crucial playoff game..Under any circumstances, TD's level will never dive like Kawhi did in game 5-7. of playoff series...Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
The whole "player fan" schtick is a weird thing on this website. Contracts are a pretty good indicator that not all players are equal. The Spurs sent at least 4 HOF's to slobber on Aldridge's knob because he's one of the best players in the league, and Lawd knows what they promised him. I don't know if Aldridge wants to play 29 minutes per game with 10 touches. I, like most of y'all, would prefer the Spurs game stay beautiful instead catering to Aldridge's ego. Next season is gonna be different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Also, a pack analogy fits sports because you are only going to be pride of the pack as long as the body holds out. Tim is playing on borrowed time, and Aldridge needs to play up to his contract to insure Tim is able to stretch his career further. Other than Kobe, there aren't players getting money AND playing time for legacy or being a good person. It comes down to physical ability.
At at the end of the day, I don't care what giant humanoid is putting a ball in the hole attached to some glass that has no bearing on my life, as long as the genetic freaks that play for the Spurs do it more frequently within 48 minutes than all the other teams.
Timmy, of course. Always has been and always will be until he hangs it up.
Maybe I don't know how the term player fan is used around here, but I was referring to 90 percent of the people on this site who claim to be Lakers fans, but are actually just Kobe Bryant apologists. They've been doing that particular schtick so long that they're now reduced to ridiculing smart team moves and bragging about his team-killing salary.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPURt
Timmy is the fucking alpha until he fucking decides to stop playing, ya' hear?
Ah, I see, thank you for taking the time to clarify! I haven't seen these posters yet but only one season left for them to troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
My apologies if it's already been said, I quit reading the redundant posts.... Without question Duncan is the Alpha in much the same way that DRob was still the alpha during Tim's first years at bat. Duncan will take everyone by the balls and show them how to play Spurs basketball. After he retires, it's a toss up if KL can come up with a leader attitude. If he doesn't, it's LMA's team. (Under Pop of course). Parker will never be the alpha. EVER