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Re: The Basilica de Jonathan Simmons
Malik Hairston 2.0 who got over glorified by Spurstalk. He was never that good.
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He's actually regressed big time from last year outside defensive effort/awareness if you look strictly at the numbers..His shooting has completely deserted him-- or it was mutually done..
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He's indeed shooting worse than last season which is disappointing bc Pop has clearly bought in with him and they have given him every opportunity and spoonfed him minutes at times.
The playoffs is where it counts, that's all one can hope for. But he has been very disappointing.
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SAGirl
He's indeed shooting worse than last season which is disappointing bc Pop has clearly bought in with him and they have given him every opportunity and spoonfed him minutes at times.
The playoffs is where it counts, that's all one can hope for. But he has been very disappointing.
Everything you said is true. By the same token he has become the whipping boy of the refs for the entire league. He gets called for defensive fouls just for breathing on opponents. And when he drives to the basket strong he gets hammered more often than not, and... no call.
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sasaint
Everything you said is true. By the same token he has become the whipping boy of the refs for the entire league. He gets called for defensive fouls just for breathing on opponents. And when he drives to the basket strong he gets hammered more often than not, and... no call.
...Anderson gets the same. One of Vince Carter so called blocks on him in the Memphis game was an egregious foul on him. There's contact on many plays. Only the stars get those calls consistently. For the roleplayers they get them sometimes others they don't....
You and I have have disagreed on the fouls they call on him so I will just leave it there. I do think he's quite foul prone foe a perimeter player and he's doesn't do a good job on screens, but not going to argue. He may get a phantom call here or there but clearly not all, not even most.
OTOH Pop will continue to give him opportunities so one can only hope for the best with him... but frankly never been as high on him as others here. Wish him the best though.
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SAGirl
...Anderson gets the same. One of Vince Carter so called blocks on him in the Memphis game was an egregious foul on him. There's contact on many plays. Only the stars get those calls consistently. For the roleplayers they get them sometimes others they don't....
You and I have have disagreed on the fouls they call on him so I will just leave it there. I do think he's quite foul prone foe a perimeter player and he's doesn't do a good job on screens, but not going to argue. He may get a phantom call here or there but clearly not all, not even most.
OTOH Pop will continue to give him opportunities so one can only hope for the best with him... but frankly never been as high on him as others here. Wish him the best though.
We don't disagree as much as you may think. Yes, he clearly is foul-prone. That is something he must fix in order to stay in the league. Against the Kings he fouled out in record time, but at least one of those calls (and probably 2) were phantoms. He has a reputation that hurts him when the refs are the slightest bit in doubt. Yes, Anderson gets the same junk calls - but not nearly as bad on the defensive end. It's open season on either one when he goes to the hole. I really do wish they could both live up to the flashes they both show. I doubt that it will be with the Spurs, though.
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He's just flat out not good enough to be a rotation player for a team with championship aspirations. He's probably not good enough to be a full time rotation player period; he's closer to a fringe player.
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I was telling my wife last night, he's the kinds of player that seems like he has the "It factor", but he just needs to turn the curb to be that.... But he just can't seem to turn that curb. I like this nicca but he's just not "IT" for me. He's not taking advantage.
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Draft day trade to the Lakers if they keep their pick. DO IT, MAGIC!
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His problem is that Pop overplays the hell out of him.
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:lol still better than Anderson tbh
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Brazil
:lol still better than Anderson tbh
Spurs probably win if Simmons dives in front of Anderson to saves Kyle's leg from Green's assault on Wednesday.
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Simmons took a hell of a lot of contact last night while he was going up with the ball. I even recorded the game so I could see if it was just me being a homer. But I realized something watching it. Good players go up expecting contact - they even initiate the contact a lot of the time. Simmons just goes up, and when the contact comes he's off his shot.
He's got one of the best shooting coaches in the business, and he needs to improve his jump shooting in the offseason. But his biggest value is his ability to pressure defenses and get to the rack. But that goes to shit when he can't finish. He has to learn how to lean into a defender, take the contact, and then put up his shot. Yeah the refs refused to make some calls they should have. But if he wants to be that kind of player, he's going to have to be able to finish and not depend on the refs. If he starts doing that, he'll probably start getting more whistles, too.
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i'm afraid simmons has hit his ceiling. he's a hell of an athlete but is turning into a below average NBA basketball player.
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Brazil
:lol still better than Anderson tbh
:lol true
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GSH
Simmons took a hell of a lot of contact last night while he was going up with the ball. I even recorded the game so I could see if it was just me being a homer. But I realized something watching it. Good players go up expecting contact - they even initiate the contact a lot of the time. Simmons just goes up, and when the contact comes he's off his shot.
He's got one of the best shooting coaches in the business, and he needs to improve his jump shooting in the offseason. But his biggest value is his ability to pressure defenses and get to the rack. But that goes to shit when he can't finish. He has to learn how to lean into a defender, take the contact, and then put up his shot. Yeah the refs refused to make some calls they should have. But if he wants to be that kind of player, he's going to have to be able to finish and not depend on the refs. If he starts doing that, he'll probably start getting more whistles, too.
If he can improve in both of those skills, he will be a valuable rotation player in the league - perhaps a starter. If he improves in one of those areas he may remain in the league. But if he fails to improve in either area, he will end up in China.
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Simmons makes a lot of silly turnovers, both with passing and his mishandling of his dribble. I love his attitude and athleticism, but if he would only get to the point where the game slows down and he understands how to use his skills without a fumble or turnover, he'd be a really solid player.
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GSH
Simmons took a hell of a lot of contact last night while he was going up with the ball. I even recorded the game so I could see if it was just me being a homer. But I realized something watching it. Good players go up expecting contact - they even initiate the contact a lot of the time. Simmons just goes up, and when the contact comes he's off his shot.
He's got one of the best shooting coaches in the business, and he needs to improve his jump shooting in the offseason. But his biggest value is his ability to pressure defenses and get to the rack. But that goes to shit when he can't finish. He has to learn how to lean into a defender, take the contact, and then put up his shot. Yeah the refs refused to make some calls they should have. But if he wants to be that kind of player, he's going to have to be able to finish and not depend on the refs. If he starts doing that, he'll probably start getting more whistles, too.
I was thinking this very thing. He's missing too much shots near the rim. It's like his body control and balance to put a good shot goes to shit once he receives any kind of air contact.
Also he's on a Dedmonian Crusade too by committing the most stupid fouls.
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Brazil
:lol still better than Anderson tbh
:lol tbh these Fathead fans were waiting for a chance to go at him
Simmons had a 14/4/4 game just two games ago. That would've been Fathead's highlight of his career..
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TheGreatYacht
:lol tbh these Fathead fans were waiting for a chance to go at him
Simmons had a 14/4/4 game just two games ago. That would've been Fathead's highlight of his career..
:lol
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TheGreatYacht
:lol tbh these Fathead fans were waiting for a chance to go at him
Simmons had a 14/4/4 game just two games ago. That would've been Fathead's highlight of his career..
:toast
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Simmons sucks ass! I thought this nigga was better than Anderson. As I watch this game, this trash ads nigga ain't no where near Anderson's level. His BBIQ is dumpsta juice... Fucking pathetic!!! Anderson is sooooo much smarter than this rock.
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How is this nigga not the face of Shaq'in a fool??? Seriously
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It is unfortunate his season and potentially the rest of his career is going down the toilet..Really think Pop is close to giving up on him..If he doesn't pick up his play in the next few games Manu rest and others are on the shelf, he will be catching DNPs soon..