Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
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Buddy Mignon
He is a system player... so is Jim.
:cry im not allowed to see the threads upstairs
Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
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Originally Posted by
ironman2886
Big men get paid in this league, even average big men. Aldridge is definitely worth that money. OKC overpaid for Kanter, big time. He sucks defensively, and is underwhelming offensively. OKC had to do it though.
Sucks defensively is an understatement, tbh:lol..he's historically bad..
Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
I guess Dion Waiters isn't a system player because he can always create his own shot. Doesn't matter that it rarely goes in.
Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
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cjw
I guess Dion Waiters isn't a system player because he can always create his own shot. Doesn't matter that it rarely goes in.
He isn't a system player, he wouldn't fit in any system ever created, tbh:lol..
Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
Danny is undoubtedly a top-tier defensive wing, but his value is greatest as a pure 3-and-D guy who has others create great looks from the arc for him, which takes a team effort and willing passers. He has that in San Antonio and it makes for a mutually-beneficial relationship.
Danny could have gotten more to go somewhere else, but if going somewhere else exposed his limitations -- which are fairly clear to those who watch him a lot -- and meant that he'd either be out of the NBA or a minimum salary journeyman after this contract is up, he made the right move to stay in a place (and a system) where he could maximize his talents and might keep himself in the league for more years. So, while he took less this time, the odds are that he'll extend his career and have a chance to take one more big dip in a few years, which might well mean that he'll make more money for his career than if he had just taken the plunge this summer.
Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
I think it's a fair characterization. Green actually has plenty of deficiencies (starting with piss poor ballhandling/dribbling skills for his position) that get covered up because he fits perfectly in the Spurs system. A good example of a guy who probably would not look nearly as good on another team.
Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
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FromWayDowntown
Danny is undoubtedly a top-tier defensive wing, but his value is greatest as a pure 3-and-D guy who has others create great looks from the arc for him, which takes a team effort and willing passers. He has that in San Antonio and it makes for a mutually-beneficial relationship.
Danny could have gotten more to go somewhere else, but if going somewhere else exposed his limitations -- which are fairly clear to those who watch him a lot -- and meant that he'd either be out of the NBA or a minimum salary journeyman after this contract is up, he made the right move to stay in a place (and a system) where he could maximize his talents and might keep himself in the league for more years. So, while he took less this time, the odds are that he'll extend his career and have a chance to take one more big dip in a few years, which might well mean that he'll make more money for his career than if he had just taken the plunge this summer.
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Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
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Originally Posted by
FromWayDowntown
Danny is undoubtedly a top-tier defensive wing, but his value is greatest as a pure 3-and-D guy who has others create great looks from the arc for him, which takes a team effort and willing passers. He has that in San Antonio and it makes for a mutually-beneficial relationship.
Danny could have gotten more to go somewhere else, but if going somewhere else exposed his limitations -- which are fairly clear to those who watch him a lot -- and meant that he'd either be out of the NBA or a minimum salary journeyman after this contract is up, he made the right move to stay in a place (and a system) where he could maximize his talents and might keep himself in the league for more years. So, while he took less this time, the odds are that he'll extend his career and have a chance to take one more big dip in a few years, which might well mean that he'll make more money for his career than if he had just taken the plunge this summer.
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bobmc
I think it's a fair characterization. Green actually has plenty of deficiencies (starting with piss poor ballhandling/dribbling skills for his position) that get covered up because he fits perfectly in the Spurs system. A good example of a guy who probably would not look nearly as good on another team.
Agree. He is a flawed player basketballwise. But so was Bruce Bowen tbqh.
Niche players. What I like is that he knows his limitations and plays his strengths to the fullest potential.
Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
They can call Verde a system player but if he keeps playing good Perimeter defense and keeps knocking down 3's then it works for me.
Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
As long as they call him champion its all good.
Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
I read this article days ago. The intent of the article wasn't to call anyone a system player; rather it detailed the importance of three point shooters being in the right system.
Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
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Originally Posted by
FromWayDowntown
Danny is undoubtedly a top-tier defensive wing, but his value is greatest as a pure 3-and-D guy who has others create great looks from the arc for him, which takes a team effort and willing passers. He has that in San Antonio and it makes for a mutually-beneficial relationship.
Danny could have gotten more to go somewhere else, but if going somewhere else exposed his limitations -- which are fairly clear to those who watch him a lot -- and meant that he'd either be out of the NBA or a minimum salary journeyman after this contract is up, he made the right move to stay in a place (and a system) where he could maximize his talents and might keep himself in the league for more years. So, while he took less this time, the odds are that he'll extend his career and have a chance to take one more big dip in a few years, which might well mean that he'll make more money for his career than if he had just taken the plunge this summer.
Perfectly said; except, I'd add that this is the place where Danny is going to be happiest (I'm assuming). He has established his relationships and he's competing for rings.
Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
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jag
"System player" is an overused term that doesn't really mean anything. There are very few players in the NBA who don't rely on a structured offense to generate points efficiently.
:tu
I remember in Duncan's rookie season, they were calling TD a system player and Keith Van Horn was the real baller who could thrive despite his surroundings.
Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
Green is a system player. His decision to stay in San Antonio benefitted him and the Spurs. Wide open shots are on the way for years to come.
Had he gone somewhere else like the Knicks, he'd be getting booed and called a bust & would spend the rest of his contract getting traded from team to team.
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timvp
:tu
I remember in Duncan's rookie season, they were calling TD a system player and Keith Van Horn was the real baller who could thrive despite his surroundings.
I don't recall that whatsoever. I recall Pitino offering his wife and anyone on his roster for Duncan. Just saying.
Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
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jag
"System player" is an overused term that doesn't really mean anything. There are very few players in the NBA who don't rely on a structured offense to generate points efficiently.
This.
The antithesis is a shitty team with iso ball and one or two superstars coached by a pussy scared of being outed by the team stars.
Re: Grant land calling green a systems player
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Originally Posted by
Buddy Mignon
He is a system player... so is Jim.
I agree Buddy. 1st time for everything I guess. Timmy is THE SYSTEM !!!!!