Sportando: Chris Copeland considering offers from SA, Milwaukee, and LAC

SPURS take Pacers good and bad players nowadays. I may want to keep Ayres instead of Copeland. At least Ayres can play some dirty defenses.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

So you better pray that he doesn't take the Spurs up on the offer!

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Meh. For whatever reason, there really aren't any interesting options that fit the cheap, veteran, three-point shooting small forward need the Spurs are trying to fill right now. Copeland is pretty damn bad but all the other options are pretty damn bad too so I can't get upset.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

He was playing for the Pacers.... David West also had an underwelming year.

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How is any of this relevant to Chris Copelands season last year?

My guess is they can always buy out and waive any of these one year guys if something better comes along, assuming that "something better" would take a minimum contract.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

He's not as young as some of you may think -- he's 31 already.

He had an underwhelming year last year and that's somewhat concerning -- considering last year was probably the biggest contract year of his professional career.

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From what I recall using him as a bench player on FBL, he earned a starter position and then lost it. Later that year, he got stabbed and was out for year so... yeah, not a year to remember at all.

he's never passed my eye test.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Meh. For whatever reason, there really aren't any interesting options that fit the cheap, veteran, three-point shooting small forward need the Spurs are trying to fill right now. Copeland is pretty damn bad but all the other options are pretty damn bad too so I can't get upset.

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Rasual Butler & Dorell Wright both seem to be better options IMO.

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Originally Posted by cd98

My guess is they can always buy out and waive any of these one year guys if something better comes along, assuming that "something better" would take a minimum contract.

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Given the lux tax implications, I doubt the Spurs waive a guaranteed contract this season.

So basically, he's considering offers from SA and LA, because nobody in their right fucking mind wants to go to Milwaukee.

And don't give me that "but the East is weak" story. He'd just be signing up to be another Cavs casualty.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

How is any of this relevant to Chris Copelands season last year?

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Well, the Pacers were an eye sore last year. I mean, they needed offense in the worst way. So if he struggled to shoot when he probably had a green light, that would be disconcerting. Spurs probably think SA is a better situation because the Pacers were so limited offensively, that defenders could cheat off their man to help contain anyone with scoring ability. Presumably, it would be difficult for a guy like Copeland to get free for a good look. In SA, role players are going to get plenty of open looks.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Given the lux tax implications, I doubt the Spurs waive a guaranteed contract this season.

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Probably, but I wonder if they'd pay the tax this year if there was a player that was worth it. I mean if David West takes an 11 million dollar hit, I would think the Spurs would do the same if the cost was warrented. TBH, the scrap heap of veterans isn't all that great, hence the Spurs opt to go with upside. But towards the end of the season, if a good player gets bought out, then maybe.

I am sure the Spurs consulted with David West prior to making the offer.

My hunch says that he's looking for a bigger payday, but will accept the minimum. He hasn't made a lot of money in his career, so winning a championship is not a high priority.

However, he saw how much former Spurs players got paid, so maybe he signs up with the Spurs to get some more upside.

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Originally Posted by Dex

So basically, he's considering offers from SA and LA, because nobody in their right fucking mind wants to go to Milwaukee.

And don't give me that "but the East is weak" story. He'd just be signing up to be another Cavs casualty.

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Bucks are doing a good job assembling a competitive team. They may be a surprise no. 2 seed in the East.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Rasual Butler & Dorell Wright both seem to be better options IMO.

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Wright is garbage, tbh, but I agree with Rasual Butler, mostly because he's accustomed to being at the end of the bench, he won't ask for increased touches or minutes..

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Originally Posted by ceperez

I am sure the Spurs consulted with David West prior to making the offer.

My hunch says that he's looking for a bigger payday, but will accept the minimum. He hasn't made a lot of money in his career, so winning a championship is not a high priority.

However, he saw how much former Spurs players got paid, so maybe he signs up with the Spurs to get some more upside.

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If he can't get the contract he wants, he might be going where he can showcase for next year's free agency.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Wright is garbage, tbh, but I agree with Rasual Butler, mostly because he's accustomed to being at the end of the bench, he won't ask for increased touches or minutes..

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Wright isn't worse than Copeland and Wright still had an excellent 3PT % last year IIRC

No way in hell Copeland gets more than a minimum deal.

Fans and media buy into Knicks/Lakers hype every year regarding their "young players with upside", tbh..Landry Fields, Channing Frye, Chris Copeland and a long list of Knicks from the past 5-7 years were hyped as players with "upside" out of false hope..further, players like Iman Shumpert, Gallinari, Jeremy Lin and others were hyped as future stars because they played for the Knicks:lol..

Same with the Lakers, see: Earl Clark, Ramon Sessions, Ed Davis, and now Randle/Clarkson..

It's essentially the equivalent of Jonathon Simmons receiving media hype and attention if the Spurs were a big market team like the Knicks or Lakers, tbh..

Pass.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Wright isn't worse than Copeland and Wright still had an excellent 3PT % last year IIRC

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I'd take Wright over Copeland, but I wouldn't want either, tbh..

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Originally Posted by timvp

No way in hell Copeland gets more than a minimum deal.

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Just looked again at his stats, I don't think he can get more than the minimum.

Also.... zero upside in terms of talent. I am surprised that the Spurs gave him an offer. Should have left the #14 slot open for flexibility.

As long as it's not Bonner.

I'd rather keep Bonner, tbh..

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Originally Posted by cd98

Bucks are doing a good job assembling a competitive team. They may be a surprise no. 2 seed in the East.

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True, the Bucks have made some surprisingly good moves. Convincing Monroe to come there was a shocker.

But if recent history is any indication, the no. 2 seed in the East is still just another team to fall to Lebron.

I may not like him, but until proven otherwise, I'm going to just assume his streak of Finals appearances is going to continue.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

I'd rather keep Bonner, tbh..

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I agree with you here... unfortunately, there is a pending offer!

This could be the worse signing of the offseason for the Spurs!