Sportando: Chris Copeland considering offers from SA, Milwaukee, and LAC

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Originally Posted by cd98

Bucks are doing a good job assembling a competitive team. They may be a surprise no. 2 seed in the East.

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They are, but still desperately need a PG that can make a shot outside of 3-feet, tbh:lol..

Is this an obvious downgrade over Belinelli?

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

I'd take Wright over Copeland, but I wouldn't want either, tbh..

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Well, sure, but I wouldn't mind Wright in this role too much. Especially when the alternative is Copeland, Wright looks pretty good to me :lol.

Wright still shot 38% from 3 and some nearly posted an average PER, while Copeland posted a PER of 7.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

I agree with you here... unfortunately, there is a pending offer!

This could be the worse signing of the offseason for the Spurs!

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Meh, there are no "bad" signings for the minimum IMO..they're taking a flier, it might work, doesn't really hurt..

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

I'd take Wright over Copeland, but I wouldn't want either, tbh..

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Not saying much, but I'd take Gigi Datome over both.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Not saying much, but I'd take Gigi Datome over both.

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Ya, we discussed him in another thread..not very skilled or talented, but I'd like to see the Spurs get another energy guy off the bench, this team has many nights where Pop benches the entire starting unit, and the entire team looks flat..Mills and occasionally Manu are the only "energy" guys on the team..

Hopefully Simmons will be that dude, though..

While I agree it's just a min signing and nothing too much to get worked up about, I definitely see a pretty clear difference in guys like Wright/Butler for the same price as Copeland unless people really believe he just had a really bad/off year and can bounce back (possible).

But going off of last year, at least a guy like Wright is still grading out as a positive player (or at least not a really net negative).

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Originally Posted by timvp

Meh. For whatever reason, there really aren't any interesting options that fit the cheap, veteran, three-point shooting small forward need the Spurs are trying to fill right now. Copeland is pretty damn bad but all the other options are pretty damn bad too so I can't get upset.

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Perhaps he has made a commitment to turn his life around and the Spurs are considering giving him a chance. 42% from the 3 is doing something right. We have an embarrassment of riches at the 4, so the Spurs are probably asking him to get in shape and see if he can spell Kawhi for some minutes.

I'm leaning agent-speak on this one

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Originally Posted by spurs10

Perhaps he has made a commitment to turn his life around and the Spurs are considering giving him a chance. 42% from the 3 is doing something right. We have an embarrassment of riches at the 4, so the Spurs are probably asking him to get in shape and see if he can spell Kawhi for some minutes.

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Rather give those minutes to the winner of the inevitable Anderson/Simmons competition.

Copelands' best years are behind him.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Rather give those minutes to the winner of the inevitable Anderson/Simmons competition.

Copelands' best years are behind him.

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So far I'm thinking that is the game-plan. Even if he were to come on board he'll have to compete against those two for pt. Will be nice to have some competition for those minutes.

Unless he's just dying at a chance to win a Chip, there's no reason for him to sign with SA over LAC or the Bucks. He can both make more money and get more PT at either of those places.

No thanks.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Rather give those minutes to the winner of the inevitable Anderson/Simmons competition.

Copelands' best years are behind him.

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Simmons is a sg.
Manu needs to be spelled throughout the year. He can't bear a heavy load.
They need a sf. Anderson isn't close to a true sf. Copeland is much closer and allows flexibility. Not the best option but what else is out there that'll take the min?
Im sure the last of the crop hasn't signed because they want money. Otherwise they would have chose a spot on a contender already. So if they can't find it, we might luck out, but you have to fill that backup sf. Anderson doesn't fit the Bill quite well.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Rather give those minutes to the winner of the inevitable Anderson/Simmons competition.

Copelands' best years are behind him.

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You have to understand that the team has no accomplished or experienced depth on the wings outside of Leonard, Green and Ginobili. While Simmons and Anderson both have promise, they're still just prospects that haven't proven anything at the NBA level (Simmons especially). While a veteran like Copeland, Butler or Wright might seem like a progress stopper (and in many ways they would be) they're actually a very important insurance policy. The great thing about vets like that too is they're often pretty content to just be in a winning locker room. While they'd love to play, if they get beat out by a young gun they're often more willing to accept the benching because they know their career is winding down and this is the last hoorah.

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Originally Posted by spurs10

So far I'm thinking that is the game-plan. Even if he were to come on board he'll have to compete against those two for pt. Will be nice to have some competition for those minutes.

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Bucks are pretty set at small forward. Clips may not be set at SF, but they've picked up a lot of guys to compete for minutes behind Pierce. No one is paying more than the min. Spurs and Bucks have great SF, so I think Clips are the ones.

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Originally Posted by Mnky

Simmons is a sg.
Manu needs to be spelled throughout the year. He can't bear a heavy load.
They need a sf. Anderson isn't close to a true sf. Copeland is much closer and allows flexibility. Not the best option but what else is out there that'll take the min?
Im sure the last of the crop hasn't signed because they want money. Otherwise they would have chose a spot on a contender already. So if they can't find it, we might luck out, but you have to fill that backup sf. Anderson doesn't fit the Bill quite well.

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SG/SF positions have always had the same responsibilities in the Spurs' system w/ their size dictating the defensive responsibilities. Last year Manu and Belinelli backed up Leonard and they are "SGs" -- same will apply w/ winner of Simmons/Anderson competition since Beli is gone now.

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Originally Posted by Darkwaters

You have to understand that the team has no accomplished or experienced depth on the wings outside of Leonard, Green and Ginobili. While Simmons and Anderson both have promise, they're still just prospects that haven't proven anything at the NBA level (Simmons especially). While a veteran like Copeland, Butler or Wright might seem like a progress stopper (and in many ways they would be) they're actually a very important insurance policy. The great thing about vets like that too is they're often pretty content to just be in a winning locker room. While they'd love to play, if they get beat out by a young gun they're often more willing to accept the benching because they know their career is winding down and this is the last hoorah.

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I understand that completely and I agree that it makes sense to go after a vet as an insurance policy. I was referring to the hypothetical Copeland vs. Anderson/Simmons scenario. Copeland looked like garbage last year.

If the Spurs really are interested in Copeland, they're starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel.

Still, the Spurs could sign two guys from the Y and still have their minimum signings grade out as an A+. They can't all be as good as David West.

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Originally Posted by Seventyniner

If the Spurs really are interested in Copeland, they're starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel.

Still, the Spurs could sign two guys from the Y and still have their minimum signings grade out as an A+. They can't all be as good as David West.

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It is not a question of "if", they already made an offer to Copeland. Spurs are indeed scraping the bottom of the barrel.

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Originally Posted by cd98

Bucks are doing a good job assembling a competitive team. They may be a surprise no. 2 seed in the East.

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Yeah there oly problem last year was scoring
Theyll get that in the post from Monroe and on the wing when Jabari Parker returns
Kidds actually a better coach than I ever wanted to give him credit for as well
MCW and Giannis cant shoot for shit the team plays D and theyre definitely a team on the uptick
I agree on being a Cavs casualty tho
Poor fellas

The guy is a Euro player in disguise!

He has zero lift. Has an extremely awkward post game.

Has a very good shooting touch.

He also may have a tainted reputation since most of his videos are about he being stabbed!

He'd be another interesting signing for sure.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

It is not a question of "if", they already made an offer to Copeland.

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Actually, there's a non-Woj tweet, clearly sourced from the player's agent, that says that Copeland has an offer from the Spurs.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Fans and media buy into Knicks/Lakers hype every year regarding their "young players with upside", tbh..Landry Fields, Channing Frye, Chris Copeland and a long list of Knicks from the past 5-7 years were hyped as players with "upside" out of false hope..further, players like Iman Shumpert, Gallinari, Jeremy Lin and others were hyped as future stars because they played for the Knicks:lol..

Same with the Lakers, see: Earl Clark, Ramon Sessions, Ed Davis, and now Randle/Clarkson..

It's essentially the equivalent of Jonathon Simmons receiving media hype and attention if the Spurs were a big market team like the Knicks or Lakers, tbh..

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A number of those players had their moments and weren't complete shit, tbh.