Re: What is Sean Elliott doin these days?
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Monkeyboy14
Are you retarded? You should listen to tesseractive. Bowen was huge for us, we didnt need an offensive minded player, we had TD for all the offense we needed.. but we needed a defender to stop other guards.. Plus to say we will forget Bowen now since LMA has number 12 is stupid.. Bowens jersey is still hanging up there.. its not like they took it down. Always remember Bruce~
Bowen was special against the Lakers. But he was also part of the reason we'd go on those scoring droughts which often let teams come back from huge deficits when they'd figure us out. Teams would hide their PG/worst defender on him, making sure they stay attached when Bowen is in the corners. On offense they'd run a hard screen for their star so someone like Ginobili, Barry or Finley would be forced to guard the primary option. Just like they do for Leonard today and score 110 on us. It's not too hard, the primary reason why the Spurs' defensive numbers such as opp PPG looked better in the early 00s is because 1) our offense was slower and didn't aim for quick shots and 2) NBA offenses just weren't as smart and analytical back then as they are now. Back then it was dump it to the star and let him dribble for 15 seconds to get a shot or create for a teammate, now it's a ton of flares/screen action to get the highest percentage shots.
Re: What is Sean Elliott doin these days?
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UNT Eagles 2016
Bowen was special against the Lakers. But he was also part of the reason we'd go on those scoring droughts which often let teams come back from huge deficits when they'd figure us out. Teams would hide their PG/worst defender on him, making sure they stay attached when Bowen is in the corners. On offense they'd run a hard screen for their star so someone like Ginobili, Barry or Finley would be forced to guard the primary option. Just like they do for Leonard today and score 110 on us. It's not too hard, the primary reason why the Spurs' defensive numbers such as opp PPG looked better in the early 00s is because 1) our offense was slower and didn't aim for quick shots and 2) NBA offenses just weren't as smart and analytical back then as they are now. Back then it was dump it to the star and let him dribble for 15 seconds to get a shot or create for a teammate, now it's a ton of flares/screen action to get the highest percentage shots.
So what you're saying is Bowen had faults, just like every other player ever? He was still a major part of a team that one 3 chips together. Also, bringing up the way the NBA played in the past means nothing, and takes nothing away from what Bowen provided, if anything it made him more valuable. So yeah, back then teams would give the ball to a player and let him dribble it around for 15 seconds, like you said. So doesn't that make what Bowen did even more important as far as defense? If we didn't have him who would guard the star that has the ball for 15 seconds? Also, in that era, wouldn't that make his offensive limits less noticeable? If teams are just going to give the ball to one Star anyway, why does it matter if Bowen is so limited? It's not like he was going to be the guy they gave the ball to anyway right? Lastly, you didn't reply about your comment about forgetting Bruce.. why exactly do you feel that way? His jersey is still up in the rafters..
Re: What is Sean Elliott doin these days?
Dude is around Spurs basketball probably more than any other former player.
Re: What is Sean Elliott doin these days?
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TXstbobcat
Really nice guy. This season when I drove to Milwaukee to see the Spurs game I got his autograph. He spent over 30 minutes signing autographs and posing for pictures with Spurs fans at that game.
same in berlin! great guy!
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UNT 2016
Severe tardation about Bowen. Jesus Christ...
Re: What is Sean Elliott doin these days?
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Monkeyboy14
So what you're saying is Bowen had faults, just like every other player ever? He was still a major part of a team that one 3 chips together. Also, bringing up the way the NBA played in the past means nothing, and takes nothing away from what Bowen provided, if anything it made him more valuable. So yeah, back then teams would give the ball to a player and let him dribble it around for 15 seconds, like you said. So doesn't that make what Bowen did even more important as far as defense? If we didn't have him who would guard the star that has the ball for 15 seconds? Also, in that era, wouldn't that make his offensive limits less noticeable? If teams are just going to give the ball to one Star anyway, why does it matter if Bowen is so limited? It's not like he was going to be the guy they gave the ball to anyway right? Lastly, you didn't reply about your comment about forgetting Bruce.. why exactly do you feel that way? His jersey is still up in the rafters..
He's an ESPNer, not a Spur. Also, they didn't have the impact on the Spurs culture that Iceman, the Admiral, James Silas, Sean Elliοt, and TD have had. The questionable ones are Bowen, Avery Johnson (was always overrated), and Moore (who was just a good player but during the Spurs dark age -- a more contemporary example would be, say, retiring Elton Brand's jersey for being a high-stats star on the lowly Clippers of the 00s). Bowen's impact was certainly inflated by the time in which he played. He would be unplayable now with his offensive and quickness ineptitudes -- this is why we cut him in 2009 when teams were starting the analytics transition process. A guy like Trevor Ariza, on the other hand, is still valuable because his defense is just as good and he is capable in transition and can take it to the rim when need be.
Re: What is Sean Elliott doin these days?
Best recent Sean Moment recently stTing after Spurs heat series was tied 1-1. He told ESPN Spurs could still win in 5 even then, Stephen A Smith went nuts and said he was crazy. Ninja 1, Stephen A, 0.
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Re: What is Sean Elliott doin these days?
*Speedy scores on a fast break*
"well, they don't call him Slowy Claxton" --Sean Elliott
Re: What is Sean Elliott doin these days?
I'll bet Wild Cobra knows where he is.
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Who knows. Nobody's heard a word from him since he retired. It's like he just vanished. Your guess is as good as ours.
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Re: What is Sean Elliott doin these days?
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wisdomafterall
its a surprise hes not around the NBA like other retired NBA players such as bowen, reggie, bones, steve, etc.
I saw him on a milk carton recently, I hope he's found soon.
Re: What is Sean Elliott doin these days?
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Monkeyboy14
Are you retarded? You should listen to tesseractive. Bowen was huge for us, we didnt need an offensive minded player, we had TD for all the offense we needed.. but we needed a defender to stop other guards.. Plus to say we will forget Bowen now since LMA has number 12 is stupid.. Bowens jersey is still hanging up there.. its not like they took it down. Always remember Bruce~
He´s beyond retarded, he is.......WALLY SZCZERBIAK!
Re: What is Sean Elliott doin these days?
Probably watering his lawn, he used to be the highest water user in SA :lol
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Probably eating at Taco Cabana from dusk to dawn. I once saw it on the tv so it must be true.
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My opinion of UNT as a school just hit the shitter. Oh wait, it was already there.
Re: What is Sean Elliott doin these days?
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TXstbobcat
Really nice guy. This season when I drove to Milwaukee to see the Spurs game I got his autograph. He spent over 30 minutes signing autographs and posing for pictures with Spurs fans at that game.
Yep. Ran into him at a UT game last fall. Could not have been nicer. Super guy.
Re: What is Sean Elliott doin these days?
where can i watch sean's old taco cabana commercials