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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
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Originally Posted by
SpurPadre
Paul Pierce might give Manu trouble, even though he's old too and strictly a perimeter player at this stage in his career. As for Anderson, his lack of speed concerns me more on the defensive end.
I actually think Manu should be the one to guard Pierce (though Paul is almost certainly starting). I'd much rather have one tough savvy vet check another than letting a young player draw fouls due to their inexperience.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
This is how you end up with Spurs fans rooting against individual players.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
I think anyone who says Kyle hasn't watched him run the court against other real nba players last season
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
I actually think Manu should be the one to guard Pierce (though Paul is almost certainly starting). I'd much rather have one tough savvy vet check another than letting a young player draw fouls due to their inexperience.
In the playoffs and if Pierce is starting ( which is likely),Pierce shouldn't be a concern. If anything Spurs should bait the Clippers to give him the touches he wants tbh..
The problem the Spurs have is when CP3 and Griffin have the ball and are creating the offense 100% of the time theyre on the floor -- much tougher to guard than Pierce.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
I actually think Manu should be the one to guard Pierce (though Paul is almost certainly starting). I'd much rather have one tough savvy vet check another than letting a young player draw fouls due to their inexperience.
It's one thing for them to start Barnes and defend Kawhi, but I can't believe they would start Pierce against the Spurs, especially in the playoffs. Kawhi would terrorize him on both ends.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
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Originally Posted by
Obstructed_View
This is how you end up with Spurs fans rooting against individual players.
THIS, although I hate Bonner on my own volition.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
Simmons>Anderson. I think KA is 1-2 years away from being an NBA player, and I still don't know exactly how his skill set fits into this team. Simmons' skill set is just too perfect for what SA needs.
The Spurs also need to replace Cojo's defense, I always felt his defense was overrated and it had more to do with Leonard-Green making him look better than he actually was, Simmons should be able to step in and replace that. Simmons has that quickness to guard these quick explosive guards while having a huge size advantage.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
KA has higher potential but right now I'd go with Simmons because his game is ready made for the Spurs as it is. KA's game is more unorthodox and we have enough figuring out to do with our other recent acquisitions and this isn't a rebuild year.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
Draft-express says about Hollis-Jefferson:
"Hollis-Jefferson was one of the best defenders in college basketball, and will need to make his mark on this end of the court at the next level as well. While he guarded multiple positions in college, he was best matched up against wings, where he can match their quickness and bother them with his strength and wingspan. He is locked in on this end of the court, taking pride in shutting down the opponent's best scorer. He moves his feet well to stay in front of dribble penetration and can finish the play with a strong contest of the shot, blocking 1.1 shots per 40 minutes pace adjusted. "
So a guy who takes pride with his defense couldn't shutdown Mr. Anderson. Nice!!!
Kyle shot something like 7-17, but being the undisputed first option is going to net you some points regardless. However, I still think Kyle did a great job applying his tempo to the game, making it HIS game.
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If he can translate that control to the bench unit, it might cause problems for opposing benches and their sparks.
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Originally Posted by
100%duncan
I think anyone who says Kyle hasn't watched him run the court against other real nba players last season
This dude keeps it 100.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
Decisions, decisions...
One comes with expectation being a first round pick, there's an assumption he's better...
The other has had to take what's his like my hero Khaleesi going after King's Landing...
One makes me chub with his awkward offense and hopeful defense...
The other makes blood charge to my south pole with his pick pocketing defense and Ginobili beta offense...
They are too different to compare... cannot compute... cannot compute...
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
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Originally Posted by
100%duncan
I think anyone who says Simmons hasn't watched him run the court against other real nba players last season
fify
:lol
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
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Originally Posted by
spurraider21
fify
:lol
Can't teach quickness son.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
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Originally Posted by
100%duncan
Can't teach quickness son.
i know, i was jes trollin
i'm part of the vicarage of simmons
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
I understand the cautious concern many of you have with Simmons but some of the assessments I've seen are darn right awful. Simmons is capable of playing the 3, he is a better defender, and he's just as crafty with the ball in his hand. But again, I often feel like I'm watching a totally different sport than many of the posters here. Especially when I see the ridiculous takes.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
Kyle Anderson doesn't even have a clear role on this team. His role will never be clear as long as the big 3 are still here. Why? Because he's stuck in wonderland when the ball isn't in his hands, and he's too slow to stay in front of any SF. All in all, I still like his skill set as a player. He's just not needed and is a redundant piece at this point. Especially with Manu, Boris, and possibly Simmons being able to do what he does better and more effectively.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
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Originally Posted by
spursince#99
I understand the cautious concern many of you have with Simmons but some of the assessments I've seen are darn right awful. Simmons is capable of playing the 3, he is a better defender, and he's just as crafty with the ball in his hand. But again, I often feel like I'm watching a totally different sport than many of the posters here. Especially when I see the ridiculous takes.
Simmons is 25 and nobody has thought he was worth any NBA contract until now. So maybe, just maybe, he's not as good as you think he is.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
Anderson has more potential to be the all around better role player. He has the size and skills needed to successfully stick in the NBA. He just needs to develop confidence and get comfortable in the Spurs system. The Spurs have the hardest playbook in the NBA. To ask a rookie to grasp all the nuances of veterans playing together for years is asking for quite a bit. I liked what I saw from him in the summer league so far. He has asserted himself and improved his game. He looks like he is comfortable out there. I don't think it would be a stretch to say he dramatically improves this year. I like Simmons and his athleticism but he seems to me to be more of a role as a energy player rather than a consistent rotation player. I really don't know how many minutes he is going to be getting but it is not going to be a lot. Pop has a very short tolerance for mistakes and while he is athletic, he has a tendency to turn the ball over and I can see him getting yanked quick if he does.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
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Originally Posted by
spursince#99
Kyle Anderson doesn't even have a clear role on this team. His role will never be clear as long as the big 3 are still here. Why? Because he's stuck in wonderland when the ball isn't in his hands, and he's too slow to stay in front of any SF. All in all, I still like his skill set as a player. He's just not needed and is a redundant piece at this point. Especially with Manu, Boris, and possibly Simmons being able to do what he does better and more effectively.
I agree with you here. Kyle Anderson is so unconventional that it is unclear where he fits within the Spurs offense.
His best position appears to be what Manu or Boris do. They don't bring up the ball, however they orchestrate the half court offense. With both Manu and Boris on the 2nd team, I just don't see how the team needs a third orchestrator.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
I agree with you here. Kyle Anderson is so unconventional that it is unclear where he fits within the Spurs offense.
His best position appears to be what Manu or Boris do. They don't bring up the ball, however they orchestrate the half court offense. With both Manu and Boris on the 2nd team, I just don't see how the team needs a third orchestrator.
you think Kyle anderson can orchestrate half court offense .......:lmao
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
Kawhi is probably an option In Pop's mind in terms of Perimeter playmaking. We saw him did it last year.
It's probably going to be Parker-Manu-Mills-Kawhi-Anderson in terms of permiter play-making.
Kawhi played significantly with the bench in the last couple month of the season last year..Should be a good 4th playmaking option.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
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Originally Posted by
JakeCuenca
Kawhi is probably an option In Pop's mind in terms of Perimeter playmaking. We saw him did it last year.
It's probably going to be Parker-Manu-Mills-Kawhi-Anderson in terms of permiter play-making.
Kawhi played significantly with the bench in the last couple month of the season last year..Should be a good 4th playmaking option.
KL is great... but he hasn't yet learned how to run an offense.
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Re: Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?
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Originally Posted by
SnakeBoy
Simmons is 25 and nobody has thought he was worth any NBA contract until now. So maybe, just maybe, he's not as good as you think he is.
Or maybe, just maybe, not all capable NBA players are given a shot until later in their career.