Simmons or Anderson - Who is better?

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

Sign-off and comeback in the regular season if you don't want to see projections based on summer league. You should expect nothing less than this type of discussion. Probably the best discussion topic you're going to find after the draft and beginning part of free agent signings.

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Oh I totally understand. Maybe I should have worded my post better..:lol

Just overall a funny thread in terms of the expectations surrounding Simmons and Anderson, specially the former

Thankfully Mr. Anderson has already addressed the haters...

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I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of me. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

Thankfully Mr. Anderson has already addressed the haters...

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Thanks to you for bringing some funny to my life!!! :downspin:

With Manu, West, and Diaw, we'd be too slow if we also play Kyle Anderson with that bench group. Simmons is the better fit with that unit. Kyle Anderson is a better option if Diaw or Manu is injured or being rested.

if KA starts hitting those 3's then KA has the upperhand

Simmons = Tireke
Anderson = Bodiroga

Spurs are stacked

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Originally Posted by ceperez

Watch Simmons.... very impressive!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1yF8HYs8h8

Notice how he beats 2 defenders. Also he goes either left or right. Slashes and dishes out.... just perfect for the Spurs.

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KA got destroyed at 1:37. Other than that, Simmons looks NBA ready. Can't wait to see this guy play in the regular season. Still has to make it through training camp, but he more than likely will. The need for another slasher who can also create is great. Ginobili needs rest, and I have a feeling Simmons can give it to him.

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Originally Posted by spursince#99

I understand the cautious concern many of you have with Simmons but some of the assessments I've seen are darn right awful. Simmons is capable of playing the 3, he is a better defender, and he's just as crafty with the ball in his hand. But again, I often feel like I'm watching a totally different sport than many of the posters here. Especially when I see the ridiculous takes.

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How many games have you watched Simmons play? Serious question.

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Originally Posted by spursince#99

Kyle Anderson doesn't even have a clear role on this team. His role will never be clear as long as the big 3 are still here. Why? Because he's stuck in wonderland when the ball isn't in his hands, and he's too slow to stay in front of any SF. All in all, I still like his skill set as a player. He's just not needed and is a redundant piece at this point. Especially with Manu, Boris, and possibly Simmons being able to do what he does better and more effectively.

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Manu likely has one year left, so the Spurs will need a primary ball handler and facilitator off the bench alongside Patty. Not saying Anderson is definitely the guy, but the role is there for the taking sooner rather than later.

Kyle Anderson's fastbreak "SloMo" version: https://streamable.com/yxtr
Day 'N' Nite: "Slow mo When the tempo slows up and creates that new, new He seems alive though he is feeling blue The sun is shining man he's super cool, cool"

Both have untapped potential and I hope at least one of them cements a regular roster spot..

The problem with someone who is just plain fast and athletic is sometime they never learn to change their pace. That allows defenders to track them and time their contest.

Anderson being slow using not only his length but fakes and change of pace to give him a slight advantage. He's worked on a Dirk shot, he's worked on anticipating or even making contact when he shoots, he really is working on his game to compensate for his lack of athleticism. The good thing is that a very young age of 21, he already knows his limitations. That is a recipe for success.

Simmons has also figured out that athleticism isn't enough, so he slashes using different angles, finishes with both left and right hands, changes paces, employs the backboard and looks for assist opportunities. That is a very good game and honestly superior to Green in his ability to score when dribbling. He can get better if he gets better control of the ball and becomes more precise with his passing.

Looking forward to seeing these two improve.

As for the haters, maybe it's time to start taking down names.

Simmons>KA

Boban

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

This is how you end up with Spurs fans rooting against individual players.

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I was just thinking this exact thing.

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

Hey I've become a Simmons fan during this SL and hope he thrives in the NBA...but the topic is would you keep KA or Simmons if you had choose. If PATFO called every team in the league and told them they had to get rid of one of the two and to pick one, every other FO in the league would pick KA.

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Interesting, seeing as every team in the NBA passed on him during draft night.

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Originally Posted by AFBlue

How many games have you watched Simmons play? Serious question.

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Enough, why? Nothing I stated was false.

Simmons > Anderson. We'll see this today as well.

For some reason Simmons reminds me of Tony Allen...

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Originally Posted by spursince#99

Enough, why? Nothing I stated was false.

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It's your opinion, based on a small sample size of data. That's why your seemingly arrogant response deserved questioning. I sincerely doubt you've seen more of him than any other poster on Spurstalk. But, if you were an ardent fan of the Austin Spurs and saw him play all last year, then I might be inclined to find you credible. So, would you care to qualify "enough?"

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Originally Posted by Aztecfan03

mix them to get one of the Sanderson witches from Hocus Pocus. They can fly.

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:lol

Perhaps Kyle Anderson is a cross forward blending both the talents of a Boris Diaw and and Kawhi Leonard, he might be groomed to be the Diaw successor who is currently moonlighting as Kawhi's back up

While Simmons is the Manu shooting guard version back up (NOT the Manu playmaker backup, that would be either Boris or Mills or KL), an energy change-of-pace guy exactly like the young Manu was.......

(just my two cents worth, sorry, im not as knowledgeable in basketball technicalities as you guys)

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Originally Posted by AFBlue

It's your opinion, based on a small sample size of data. That's why your seemingly arrogant response deserved questioning. I sincerely doubt you've seen more of him than any other poster on Spurstalk. But, if you were an ardent fan of the Austin Spurs and saw him play all last year, then I might be inclined to find you credible. So, would you care to qualify "enough?"

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Enough as in I've seen enough of both to know Simmons is a better defender and is capable of hitting the 3 ball at a pretty good clip. A clip much higher than that of Kyle Andersons'. It's not like Kyle isn't playing in Summer League as well. Then you'd have an argument, but it's not rocket science. Simmons has clearly shown he can do these things I've pointed out, and Anderson hasn't shown he can do such. It's just that simple. No need to try and complicate things given at face value.

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Originally Posted by spursince#99

Enough as in I've seen enough of both to know Simmons is a better defender and is capable of hitting the 3 ball at a pretty good clip. A clip much higher than that of Kyle Andersons'. It's not like Kyle isn't playing in Summer League as well. Then you'd have an argument, but it's not rocket science. Simmons has clearly shown he can do these things I've pointed out, and Anderson hasn't shown he can do such. It's just that simple. No need to try and complicate things given at face value.

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It's called "small sample size". Both have shown the ability to pass, defend and make open shots in the summer league...less than 10 games. Neither have shown the ability to do so consistently at a high level against high-level competition. That's why it's ridiculous to be so assured that one is better than the other. It wasn't so much the position you took as the implication that you were so much smarter than everyone else. The fact is, you're not. And it's not as simple as you make it seem.

The irony is that I also think Simmons has the better shot at being a pro than Anderson because of his speed and athleticism. I agree he has flashed all the tools. But, you also can't deny how much younger Anderson is than Simmons, which gives him the time and opportunity to improve. And Anderson, despite being slower, does have superior size and length for the position. I give both a decent shot at becoming solid pros tbqh.

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Originally Posted by AFBlue

It's called "small sample size". Both have shown the ability to pass, defend and make open shots in the summer league...less than 10 games. Neither have shown the ability to do so consistently at a high level against high-level competition. That's why it's ridiculous to be so assured that one is better than the other. It wasn't so much the position you took as the implication that you were so much smarter than everyone else. The fact is, you're not. And it's not as simple as you make it seem.

The irony is that I also think Simmons has the better shot at being a pro than Anderson because of his speed and athleticism. I agree he has flashed all the tools. But, you also can't deny how much younger Anderson is than Simmons, which gives him the time and opportunity to improve. And Anderson, despite being slower, does have superior size and length for the position. I give both a decent shot at becoming solid pros tbqh.

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Yeah I didn't read any of this, and I'm not the type to go back and forth so yeah, Simmons is the better defender, shooter, and is just as crafty in his own right, as I stated earlier. Have a good day.