The problem is Harden and Dwight...Harden is literally incapable of playing off the ball...and Dwight wont play defense unless he has the ball...Ty is good but unfortunately those two mental midgets will fuck it up...If Harden knew how to play off the ball like Clay Thompson the Rox could make some noise...
07-19-2015
djohn2oo8
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
:lmao Denver traded a pick too
07-19-2015
Koolaid_Man
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by djohn2oo8
:lmao Denver traded a pick too
Nice Fleece job breh
07-19-2015
djohn2oo8
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
Nice Fleece job breh
:tu
07-19-2015
JakeCuenca
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Prigioni was a major piece last year in the playoffs, but still this is great for Houston.
Should take off a lot of pressure from Harden.
if Lawson can play at a level he played two years ago...Houston is going to be tough to beat.
07-19-2015
SuperCam
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
This was a homerun for Morey. He gets a very high caliber offensive player who is an extraordinary set up man. I mean they already had a WCF team with that fucking washed up argentuzos scrub starting in the playoffs. Rox have deep bench now too.
07-19-2015
Chinook
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Couldn't even get Harrell from Houston. Sad, but kinda obvious given Lawson's recent issues.
Should have Lawson as 6th man, would be huge for their bench unit and would maximize his impact..
07-19-2015
spurraider21
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Should have Lawson as 6th man, would be huge for their bench unit and would maximize his impact..
indeed. and its not uncommon to have more defensive oriented starter and an offensive-minded backup... especially because harden already runs the O
07-19-2015
djohn2oo8
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Should have Lawson as 6th man, would be huge for their bench unit and would maximize his impact..
I wondered about this. If Beverley re-signed knowing he would start.
07-19-2015
HarlemHeat37
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
indeed. and its not uncommon to have more defensive oriented starter and an offensive-minded backup... especially because harden already runs the O
Ya, I don't expect McHale to make the intelligent move, though:lol..
07-19-2015
TXstbobcat
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by djohn2oo8
:lmao Denver traded a pick too
Very nice trade for the Rockets.
07-19-2015
benefactor
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
All those strip clubs...Ty ain't gotta chance.
07-19-2015
HarlemHeat37
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by djohn2oo8
I wondered about this. If Beverley re-signed knowing he would start.
Doesn't make much sense to start Lawson IMO..even if they do, I bet they change it after a few weeks..
A lineup with Lawson-Harden-Jones puts too much defensive pressure on Ariza and Howard(and Dwight has been vocal in the past about a reduced offensive role in favor of carrying a defense, probably even worse at his current age), and it minimizes Lawson's impact, since he's a poor off-ball player..
Starting Beverley gives them 3 defenders with 3 role players that can make spot-up jump shots, and allows Lawson to create the entire offense for a bench unit that doesn't have any creators outside of occasional D-Mo post-ups..Houston's offense when Harden left the floor was one of their primary flaws, last year, IIRC..
07-19-2015
Koolaid_Man
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Should have Lawson as 6th man, would be huge for their bench unit and would maximize his impact..
The Rox needed a PG bad...and they found a very good one. They need to take the ball out of Hardens hands...Ty can't defend for shit but he's a very good and capable offensive player...he avg.15 and 9 dimes last season..the issue is Harden and Dwight low IQs...them two niggas aren't too bright and unfortunately it will continue to haunt the Rox...tbh
07-19-2015
djohn2oo8
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Doesn't make much sense to start Lawson IMO..even if they do, I bet they change it after a few weeks..
A lineup with Lawson-Harden-Jones puts too much defensive pressure on Ariza and Howard(and Dwight has been vocal in the past about a reduced offensive role in favor of carrying a defense, probably even worse at his current age), and it minimizes Lawson's impact, since he's a poor off-ball player..
Starting Beverley gives them 3 defenders with 3 role players that can make spot-up jump shots, and allows Lawson to create the entire offense for a bench unit that doesn't have any creators outside of occasional D-Mo post-ups..Houston's offense when Harden left the floor was one of their primary flaws, last year, IIRC..
I agree. Only thing is D-Mo likely starts.
07-19-2015
m>s
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Doesn't make much sense to start Lawson IMO..even if they do, I bet they change it after a few weeks..
A lineup with Lawson-Harden-Jones puts too much defensive pressure on Ariza and Howard(and Dwight has been vocal in the past about a reduced offensive role in favor of carrying a defense, probably even worse at his current age), and it minimizes Lawson's impact, since he's a poor off-ball player..
Starting Beverley gives them 3 defenders with 3 role players that can make spot-up jump shots, and allows Lawson to create the entire offense for a bench unit that doesn't have any creators outside of occasional D-Mo post-ups..Houston's offense when Harden left the floor was one of their primary flaws, last year, IIRC..
youre forgetting that per the stats gardens defense was vastly improved and actually pretty damn good this year
07-19-2015
Robz4000
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Saw this coming a mile away and with Lawson's DUI I figured Houston would get him for cheap. As Harlem said, low risk/high reward for Houston; this puts them ahead of the Grizz/Hawks but still behind SA/GS/CLE/LAC.
Just to be clear, the Rockets pick to Denver is lottery protected in 2016. The Denver second rounder to the Rockets in '17 not protected.
07-19-2015
Splits
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
The Rox needed a PG bad...and they found a very good one. They need to take the ball out of Hardens hands...Ty can't defend for shit but he's a very good and capable offensive player...he avg.15 and 9 dimes last season..the issue is Harden and Dwight low IQs...them two niggas aren't too bright and unfortunately it will continue to haunt the Rox...tbh
Stick to "Tammy" and olympics topics. Your basketball takes suck
07-19-2015
Koolaid_Man
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Splits
Stick to "Tammy" and olympics topics. Your basketball takes suck
So does your asshole Splits.... wink wink
07-19-2015
100%duncan
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
The west gets better
07-19-2015
Clipper Nation
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
A recovering alcoholic on a team led by Harden and Dwight? That'll end well.
07-19-2015
SuperCam
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
only downside is Tywon is a UNC faggot who is of low moral fiber. but Rox willing to have a pedophile on their team so I imagine that didn't come up in the discussion. still potential to be brought down by the combined faggotry of that starting lineup though ala 2012 lakerz
07-19-2015
Splits
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
So does your asshole Splits.... wink wink
You want to suck my ass again? wink
07-19-2015
Koolaid_Man
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Splits
You want to suck my ass again? wink
Muh mah..dick does Splits...ohh I meant Splaqs..:lol
07-19-2015
djohn2oo8
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Rockets will ask John Lucas to help counsel in his rehab.
07-19-2015
Koolaid_Man
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Can't be much worse Djohn...you got a guy that pays 25k per hooker, a pedo, and now a wino....
Two sex pervs and basically a drunk....
07-19-2015
Michael Corleone
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
07-19-2015
djohn2oo8
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
Can't be much worse Djohn...you got a guy that pays 25k per hooker, a pedo, and now a wino....
Two sex pervs and basically a drunk....
If Lawson fucks up again, he is done. NBA probably bans him and contract voided.
07-19-2015
Mugen
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
:lol who's the last guy that John Lucas successfully mentored? I'm pretty sure Stevie Franchise is in a crack den somewhere in Baltimore tbh
07-19-2015
DJR210
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Gallons of that drank for Lawson
07-19-2015
HarlemHeat37
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Damn, Lakers losing confidence in Russell already?:lol
07-19-2015
Koolaid_Man
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
:lol who's the last guy that John Lucas successfully mentored? I'm pretty sure Stevie Franchise is in a crack den somewhere in Baltimore tbh
Crack is different bro...never done it but I have snorted a coke line once
07-19-2015
Mugen
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
it's a no brainer for the Rockets obviously but I'm calling Rondo to the Mavs 2.0 tbh.
A town where there's nothing to do but hit up strip clubs with off the court degenerates like Dwight and Harden isn't exactly the ideal situation for an alcoholic :lol
07-19-2015
djohn2oo8
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Damn, Lakers losing confidence in Russell already?:lol
:lmao all the naysayers. Harden/Lawson guard combo is terrific
07-19-2015
sook
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
Can't be much worse Djohn...you got a guy that pays 25k per hooker, a pedo, and now a wino....
Two sex pervs and basically a drunk....
:lmao butthurt
07-19-2015
Splits
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Damn, Lakers losing confidence in Russell already?:lol
:lol did you see D'Bust against d-league scrubs in SL? He was fucking awful, shot 37% from the field and 12% from 3. 12/5/3 with more than 5 TOs per game.
Last year, we relied on Josh Smith to be the play maker when Harden is resting. Now Harden can get some rest while Lawson pounds the ball.
Lawson's fit with Harden is questionable, but we shall see how much Harden can play off the ball.
07-19-2015
djohn2oo8
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Wonder when his suspension is handed down
07-19-2015
Mugen
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
dj, you gonna tweet this nigga and offer to be his personal uber driver or what tbh?
07-19-2015
djohn2oo8
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
dj, you gonna tweet this nigga and offer to be his personal uber driver or what tbh?
:lol if it would guarantee he would stay sober
07-19-2015
myhc
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
So Rockets add a drunk/woman beater and go from the most hated team in the nba to the most hated team in the nba? Great!
07-19-2015
Thread
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Good. Another trip wire to keep Duncan holding that Bag.
07-19-2015
UNT Eagles 2016
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
So who's the odd man out here? Beverley? Jason Terry?
Also, the Rockets are in need of a center for when Dwert obligatorily takes off some games or gets in foul trouble. Looks like unproven backup Capela might be getting some minutes. The Rockets, however, should go after Javale McGee.
07-19-2015
Thread
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
So who's the odd man out here? Beverley? Jason Terry?
Keep all three. You can never have enough talent.
07-19-2015
UNT Eagles 2016
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thread
Keep all three. You can never have enough talent.
Who plays center when punk isn't in the game?
07-19-2015
djohn2oo8
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thread
Keep all three. You can never have enough talent.
They will keep all three.
07-19-2015
djohn2oo8
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
Who plays center when punk isn't in the game?
Capella
07-19-2015
Thread
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
Who plays center when punk isn't in the game?
What did Ted Kennedy say to Mary Jo Kopechne when she told him she was pregnant? We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
07-19-2015
Thread
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by djohn2oo8
Capella
How the fuck is singin' with no instruments accompanying gonna play center?
07-19-2015
djohn2oo8
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thread
How the fuck is singin' with no instruments accompanying gonna play center?
07-19-2015
adonis827
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
The 2016 hou pick is likely in the 25 - 30. The 2017 den pick very likely is in the 31 to 40. So basically like drafting out of the first round in the year the rox is probably looking for another max player.
That does not seem much for a pretty solid PG. Hope the NBA consider altering the trade a little bit to make it more fair.
07-19-2015
Thread
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by djohn2oo8
Look at ya,,,you're so jazzed you couldn't resist flyin' over my obtuseness.
Ya happy now, dj, you got your big old Lawson run...
How is it possible that LA couldn't beat HOU's offer of nothing :lol
07-19-2015
Mugen
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thread
Look at ya,,,you're so jazzed you couldn't resist flyin' over my obtuseness.
Ya happy now, dj, you got your big old Lawson run...
:lol only you Cubby
07-19-2015
LkrFan
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
How is it possible that LA couldn't beat HOU's offer of nothing :lol
What use is it to bring Lawson in? We just drafted our future PG. Why have somebody like Lawson around our young players? It makes no sense.
07-19-2015
Thread
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by LkrFan
What use is it to bring Lawson in? We just drafted our future PG. Why have somebody like Lawson around our young players? It makes no sense.
You're talking to a brick wall...a short, brick wall.
07-19-2015
djohn2oo8
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by LkrFan
What use is it to bring Lawson in? We just drafted our future PG. Why have somebody like Lawson around our young players? It makes no sense.
Mitch still tried to :lol
07-19-2015
LkrFan
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thread
You're talking to a brick wall...a short, brick wall.
:lol
07-19-2015
LkrFan
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by djohn2oo8
Mitch still tried to :lol
I doubt it son. :lol
07-19-2015
spankadelphia
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
:lmaotrading for an alcoholic point guard
Know any full blown alcoholics with a spot in the rotation for a playoff team? Or on an active NBA roster for that matter? I'll wait.
07-19-2015
GuerillaBlack
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by noob cake
Last year, we relied on Josh Smith to be the play maker when Harden is resting. Now Harden can get some rest while Lawson pounds the ball.
Lawson's fit with Harden is questionable, but we shall see how much Harden can play off the ball.
Harden can still spot up shoot for a bit when Lawson has the ball. I'd just stagger them a bit and have Lawson in with Thornton more. Not even worried though. They are friends off the court and good players find a way to play together. It is a damn steal of a trade. Gave up literally nobody for a starter that puts the Rockets in top four in the NBA.
07-19-2015
Kikoluna
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Wished spurs had this guy. Better to have a drunk pg that a 20 pound overweight pg.
That is one deep lineup. Hope the young players continue to improve and Dwight stays healthy.
07-19-2015
TDMVPDPOY
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
whats with rich athletes who has all this money, wasted it on shit when the avg person can spend less but get a better product...
hardens spends 25k to get laid, but look at those hoes...
d12 bastard guy with 5 bastard children
now with ty law a drunk...i wonder how much he spends on booze, let alone the brand his drinking to get drunk....not those 40oz drinks? isnt that diluted shit without the fizz?
That is one deep lineup. Hope the young players continue to improve and Dwight stays healthy.
You're gonna miss Smith. He was a solid, serious basketball player as he hunted that ring. You have to replace that. You can't just pretend it didn't happen.
07-20-2015
GuerillaBlack
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thread
You're gonna miss Smith. He was a solid, serious basketball player as he hunted that ring. You have to replace that. You can't just pretend it didn't happen.
We replaced his playmaking abilities with a guy who is better at it. Plus, improved the free throw and three point shooting of the team. I crigned every time Smith went to the line. I won't with Lawson. You just hope the young bigs continue to grow and produce.
07-20-2015
Mark Celibate
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Not much of an upgrade over Beverley imho. Houston is a good destination for this drunkhead, nonetheless.
07-20-2015
Johnny RIngo
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by LkrFan
What use is it to bring Lawson in? We just drafted our future PG. Why have somebody like Lawson around our young players? It makes no sense.
Russell's not a point guard. He's Kobe's replacement more than anything. With Kobe not willing to go away anytime soon, Lakers are probably gonna screw up the kid's development by playing him out of position (not to mention picking up bad habits from Bryant).
07-20-2015
SPM
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
A recovering alcoholic on a team led by Harden and Dwight? That'll end well.
:lol Pretty much. Does nothing for me personally, but t fans like DJohn will probably bust a nut over getting a scrub who plays no D and can't shoot.
07-20-2015
SPM
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikoluna
Wished spurs had this guy. Better to have a drunk pg that a 20 pound overweight pg.
:lol
07-20-2015
noob cake
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack
Harden can still spot up shoot for a bit when Lawson has the ball. I'd just stagger them a bit and have Lawson in with Thornton more. Not even worried though. They are friends off the court and good players find a way to play together. It is a damn steal of a trade. Gave up literally nobody for a starter that puts the Rockets in top four in the NBA.
You are right. Harden and Lawson will probably be staggered. Let Lawson start for show/respect. Pull him early so he can play more as the 2nd unit lead man. He can jack all the shot and play PG at the same time. Harden is honestly not a great spot up shooter.
07-20-2015
LakerHater
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Well Lucas can put him in his facility!
07-20-2015
ambchang
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
The rox reminds me a lot of the jailblazers. Great talent, questionable character, no regard for team chemistry.
They can vmbe dangerous, go deep in the playoffs, beat anyone at anytime, but something will rear its ugly head at the wrong time and they will be kicked out of the playoffs year after year, the entire thing will collapse due to egos and morey will have nothing to show for his genius.
07-20-2015
djohn2oo8
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
The rox reminds me a lot of the jailblazers. Great talent, questionable character, no regard for team chemistry.
They can vmbe dangerous, go deep in the playoffs, beat anyone at anytime, but something will rear its ugly head at the wrong time and they will be kicked out of the playoffs year after year, the entire thing will collapse due to egos and morey will have nothing to show for his genius.
They have some regard for team chemistry. Smith was labeled a "cancer" before he got to Houston. Now look at him.
07-20-2015
Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Celibate
Not much of an upgrade over Beverley imho. Houston is a good destination for this drunkhead, nonetheless.
It's an offensive upgrade, but a defensive downgrade, so it a wash. But Lawson needs the ball in his hand to be productive, and with the Rockets offense being run through Harden, it probably going to be difficult for Lawson to fit in.
That is why Beverly is the perfect PG for the Rockets. Great defender, but doesn't need to be ball dominate, so he doesn't mind deferring to Harden.
Good pickup by the Rockets. Should use him as a 6th man, not a starter.
07-20-2015
703 Spurz
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Perhaps it's just b/c I'm a Spurs fan and pay attention to what happens in the division but fuck man, it seems like Dallas, Memphis, and Houston make 20 moves an offseason to become better.
07-20-2015
Double-Up
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
:lol who's the last guy that John Lucas successfully mentored? I'm pretty sure Stevie Franchise is in a crack den somewhere in Baltimore tbh
Yea I was thinking along the same line. :lol
07-20-2015
Killakobe81
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
It's an offensive upgrade, but a defensive downgrade, so it a wash. But Lawson needs the ball in his hand to be productive, and with the Rockets offense being run through Harden, it probably going to be difficult for Lawson to fit in.
That is why Beverly is the perfect PG for the Rockets. Great defender, but doesn't need to be ball dominate, so he doesn't mind deferring to Harden.
Good pickup by the Rockets. Should use him as a 6th man, not a starter.
This. All in all could be a steal especially if we see the Lawson we saw early in his career the past few he has been unimpressive. and i watch him fairly close as UNC is my mistress NCAA team. Bruins (of course) my primary squad.
07-20-2015
Spurs9
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Houstonhas a good freeway system for Ty tbh
07-20-2015
Kidd K
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Houston will probably be the 3rd best team in the west this season tbh. Lawson will add a nice dimension to their offense.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
The problem is Harden and Dwight...Harden is literally incapable of playing off the ball...and Dwight wont play defense unless he has the ball...Ty is good but unfortunately those two mental midgets will fuck it up...If Harden knew how to play off the ball like Clay Thompson the Rox could make some noise...
Wut?
I know he's become a bit of a ball hog but Harden used to play with Durant and Chuckbrook for years. He had no choice but to play off the ball. His efficiency will probably go up because of Lawson being on the team instead of some shitter like Lin or Beverley.
07-20-2015
The Gemini Method
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Why not pick up J.R. Smith and see who leads the Rockets in Breathalyzer tests per season next year.
07-20-2015
Double-Up
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gemini Method
Why not pick up J.R. Smith and see who leads the Rockets in Breathalyzer tests per season next year.
"ESPN sources say that the Lakers were also a determined trade bidder for Ty Lawson, but Denver clearly preferred what the Rockets offered"
07-20-2015
Double-Up
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
^ :lmao
07-20-2015
The Gemini Method
Re: Ty Lawson traded to Houston
Quote:
Originally Posted by Double-Up
^ :lmao
and? I have long stopped caring what this FO is doing.