Re: Anderson, Simmons or Marjanovic?
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Dingle Barry
Wes Matthews is a generational talent.
Seriously, might never see a player like him for the rest of our lives. I for one, will be catching as many maverick games as possible just to be a witness .
Re: Anderson, Simmons or Marjanovic?
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daledondale
I don't know if this going to happen, maybe the guy can have some minutes from the bench for a few years. But honestly, i don't see THAT HIGH expectations for someone who is that slow and doesn't defend too much. I mean, some people here think he's the new Manu :rolleyes, that's too much expectations.
Kyle is clearly the new Rasho
Re: Anderson, Simmons or Marjanovic?
I actually see Marjanovic as a Greg Steimsma kind of project. If he can clog the paint, well then he Can be usefull. If not i dont see him make any impact.
Anderson can be good depending of the role.
Simmo is a freak athlete - if he can develop some primal defensive skills, he could be deadly playing alongside Green and Leonard. I see a potential Harper, Pippen and Jordan comparision (light version of course)
Re: Anderson, Simmons or Marjanovic?
Obviously all three equally....
posters on here are already calling Kyle Anderson the next Bird or magic, Simmons the next Manu, and Marjanovic anywhere from the next Yao Ming to Duncan.
Re: Anderson, Simmons or Marjanovic?
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buttsR4rebounding
No one with any kind of numbers background would think there is any chance that the Spurs Simmons "contributes at a Wesley Mathews level for 3 years". Unless he means right this very moment.
I'm sure you would've said the same thing of the undrafted Wesley Matthews when he first got to the league. It's up to Simmons whether or not he achieves at the next level. Based on Summer League and D League results, Simmons has potential to be serviceable at the next level. I think it isn't totally crazy to set that as a potential ceiling on his ability at Wesley Matthews. No one is suggesting the Spurs give him 4 years at $64 million.
Right now, Simmons is averaging 16 pts/4 rbs/ 3 assists/ 1 steal (all rounding down), That is almost the exact same impact Matthews brought last year. Very obviously Summer League is not the pros, but I don't think it's a terrible goal for Simmons to shoot for in the pros.
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Mugen
I don't think Boban will be anything more than a body for garbage time tbh.
Yeah, most seem to think that Bonner will be the 6th big, but I'd bet that he plays more minutes outside of garbage time than Boban this season.
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Being as Tiago only averaged 12 minutes per game in year one, it's hard to imagine seeing much of Bobi-cakes, unless something goes horribly wrong
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SPURt
I'm sure you would've said the same thing of the undrafted Wesley Matthews when he first got to the league. It's up to Simmons whether or not he achieves at the next level. Based on Summer League and D League results, Simmons has potential to be serviceable at the next level. I think it isn't totally crazy to set that as a potential ceiling on his ability at Wesley Matthews. No one is suggesting the Spurs give him 4 years at $64 million.
Right now, Simmons is averaging 16 pts/4 rbs/ 3 assists/ 1 steal (all rounding down), That is almost the exact same impact Matthews brought last year. Very obviously Summer League is not the pros, but I don't think it's a terrible goal for Simmons to shoot for in the pros.
I am very high on Simmons too, but MAtthews is a terrific, and prolific 3 pt.shooter. Simmons shot the 3 well 1 of 2 years in th d'league, and we haven't seen him shoot it well in SL. I think he can shoot it if left wide open, but we still have to see that a the nba level. The reason I am careful assuming anything like that is bc of Cojo. He shot the 3 well in the d'league and was never able to translate that to the NBA. In fact every year since his rookie season, he shot it proportionally less. Simmons is fa from your Wes Matthews.
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SAGirl
I am very high on Simmons too, but MAtthews is a terrific, and prolific 3 pt.shooter. Simmons shot the 3 well 1 of 2 years in th d'league, and we haven't seen him shoot it well in SL. I think he can shoot it if left wide open, but we still have to see that a the nba level. The reason I am careful assuming anything like that is bc of Cojo. He shot the 3 well in the d'league and was never able to translate that to the NBA. In fact every year since his rookie season, he shot it proportionally less. Simmons is fa from your Wes Matthews.
I totally agree that Simmons doesn't shoot the three like Matthews in the Summer League and he will need to shoot better in order to stick in San Antonio without question. Matthews is more valuable, to me anyway, on defense. Simmons has almost the same stat line in the d league as Matthews, so I think it is a fair ceiling to place on the guy. Simmons shot nearly 40% playing in the Spurs offense run by d leaguers last year. Simmons is creating more offense off the dribble in Summer League, and defenses must know only Slomo and Simmons are going to do anything on offense. I'd hope getting wide open shots will improve his percentage if he gets a shot with the actual Spurs team.
Matthews will make $15 million next year, what I am saying is Simmons at $550k is a great investment. I am damn glad the Spurs didn't make that signing. Simmons wasn't even supposed to be on the Spurs Summer League team and the Spurs signed him when other vets were available to a guaranteed deal next year. Judging from what we are seeing now, I believe the Spurs could have at least the next Gary Neal/Aron Baynes impact type player. I am not saying he plays like Gary Neal or Aron Baynes before someone pulls that line out of this.
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timvp
If one of those three eventually turns into a starter quality player, I'd be thrilled.
I'd be thrilled if at least one contributes this year
Too many questions about each.
Anderson- will his lack of athletic ability prevent him from being effective at anything above d-league/summer league
Simmons- an undrafted previously unheralded player who has never played a single NBA minute- not sure he's ever been a camp invitee
Boban- 7'3" guy who doesn't block shots?
To some extent, I'm playing Devil's advocate. I'm excited about these guys, but they are far from sure things
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I really think Simmons has All-Star potential.
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SPURt
I totally agree that Simmons doesn't shoot the three like Matthews in the Summer League and he will need to shoot better in order to stick in San Antonio without question. Matthews is more valuable, to me anyway, on defense. Simmons has almost the same stat line in the d league as Matthews, so I think it is a fair ceiling to place on the guy. Simmons shot nearly 40% playing in the Spurs offense run by d leaguers last year. Simmons is creating more offense off the dribble in Summer League, and defenses must know only Slomo and Simmons are going to do anything on offense. I'd hope getting wide open shots will improve his percentage if he gets a shot with the actual Spurs team.
Matthews will make $15 million next year, what I am saying is Simmons at $550k is a great investment. I am damn glad the Spurs didn't make that signing. Simmons wasn't even supposed to be on the Spurs Summer League team and the Spurs signed him when other vets were available to a guaranteed deal next year. Judging from what we are seeing now, I believe the Spurs could have at least the next Gary Neal/Aron Baynes impact type player. I am not saying he plays like Gary Neal or Aron Baynes before someone pulls that line out of this.
Yep I agree with you on all of this. I think both Simmons and Anderson will get open 3 pt. looks they are not going to get at this level considering they are the best players here, and unlikely to be unguarded at any point, they both handle the ball a lot. Defensively I think Simmons has good tools and effort level. We have to see him in real games, but bc of his effort, athleticism, and instincts, I think he will do fine and might turn out to be quite a find on that end.
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Probably Slomo. Combo of length, handle & court vision makes him big time project. Give him time to tighten up in some areas.
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daledondale
Who will have a bigger career with the silver & black?. Discuss and make your bets.
I bet for Simmons.
Bigger? I'm pretty sure that 7'3 Serbian wins the size argument handily. He could probably eat Simmons pre-game and snack on Anderson at halftime.
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1. Simms City
2. Slo-mo
3. Boban the Barbarian
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Darkwaters
Bigger? I'm pretty sure that 7'3 Serbian wins the size argument handily. He could probably eat Simmons pre-game and snack on Anderson at halftime.
:lol