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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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Originally Posted by
Nathan89
There will be valuable sg/sf minutes for either KA or Simmons to play every game. Doesn't really matter how many people are ahead of him on the roster.
Yea I agree, it's ~15 minutes, and I think it'll be more matchup based like I said. I don't think either one will outright take the majority of those minutes over the other one, but who knows right now... Again, he'll play, both of 'em will, but they'll have to really be ballin to steal any more minutes from the other guys, that's all I meant by that. If that happens I'm all for it tho, that's only good for us if they're playing that well, especially for our future.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
Hit the nail on the head, it is attitude that is holding back Eddie's career. If he would make the effort, he can run, dunk and block.
The SL playoff is a grueling game for players like Anderson and Simmons who had to deliver day after day without rest. Impressed at their effort. Very impressed with Simmons, he figured it out.
On the other hand, Spurs figure that they can teach Anderson and Simmons to shoot the 3 ball instead of teaching Eddie how to do everything else. They only got one spot left in the roster and that's typically going to be D-league call-ups.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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Originally Posted by
Dro210
Yea I agree, it's ~15 minutes, and I think it'll be more matchup based like I said. I don't think either one will outright take the majority of those minutes over the other one, but who knows right now... Again, he'll play, both of 'em will, but they'll have to really be ballin to steal any more minutes from the other guys, that's all I meant by that. If that happens I'm all for it tho, that's only good for us if they're playing that well, especially for our future.
Bufford signed Bonner, that tells me that he's content with the talent in the current roster.
That also tells me that Anderson and Simmons are going to get playing time considering that there are only 3 veteran players covering SG and SF.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
I wouldn't be surprised to see Atkins and Graham signed by European teams very soon. The lack of size is a much smaller problem over there and smart defenders are always in demand.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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hemann82
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Useless post to make one feel important, complete.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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timvp
-Honestly, heading into Vegas, I wasn't even sure Becky Hammon deserved her job as assistant coach. By the end, I'm convinced she's legitimate NBA head coaching material. She masterfully tiptoed the line between trying to win these games and trying to develop the players. Her rotations always had the big picture in mind. Her playcalling was fantastic; I was especially impressed with how she milked hot hands and took advantage of mismatches. She didn't hesitate to jump on a player when needed (for excessive celebration or loafing on defense, for example). All in all, it's now obvious that she more than deserves her job and has a bright, bright future.
So how long do you think it will be before she's offered a head coaching position? I think she did a fantastic job with the summer league team. Not that she's not capable, but somebody will fast track her to a head coaching spot. Coaching with the Spurs and winning the SL title will help justify the owners selection. With her ties to Colorado, maybe the Nuggets would be a good candidate.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
Bufford signed Bonner, that tells me that he's content with the talent in the current roster.
That also tells me that Anderson and Simmons are going to get playing time considering that there are only 3 veteran players covering SG and SF.
Yea I think they're for sure content.
Way I see it, there's 144 minutes between the 1-2-3 spots:
32 for Kawhi, 29 for Danny, 28 for Tony, 19 for Manu, 18 for Patty.
That's 126 minutes. Leaving 18 for KA and Simmons, with RayRay trying to get in on the action too. Throw in some small ball lineups that have Kawhi, or even Kyle at the 4; that wouldn't happen often or for long, so you'd likely only gain a few minutes there.
You could break it down to 96 at the 2-3:
29 for Kawhi (all at 3), 29 for Danny, 13 for Manu (all at 2), 6 for Patty (all at 2).
That's 77. Leaving 19 minutes at the 2-3. I think 11 at the SF (if you gave Kawhi 3 minutes at the 4), and 8 at SG
96 min breakdown for 1-2:
28 for Tony (all at 1), 21 for Danny (all at 2), 19 for Manu, 18 for Patty.
That's 88. Leaving 10 minutes at the 1-2. 8 at SG like I said, and 2 for RayRay (or even the Simmons or KA at PG experiment? Doubtful). The 2 third string PG minutes is the one that seems off since Cojo averaged so many minutes last year, but idk where I'm off. Maybe too many of Manu's minutes at point (6), but seems like that could just be adjusted to less time at 2 for Patty (also 6) and more at the 1.
I'm pulling these number out of my ass, but I think they're fairly accurate. Maybe somebody has something better?... but I think it shows that during a key game that goes the distance, where Kawhi's jumped up to 38-40 minutes and DG's at 35, there's not all that much left. LMA is gonna play more than Splitter ever did, and DWest is gonna play more than The Banga. Timmy will play slightly less than last year.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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808
Thanks for all your summer observations. Looking forward to 82 more this coming season :toast
Exactly.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
Thank for the write up Tim. I wonder if Ndoye will accept a deal with Austin, or go overseas. Very intrigued with this guy.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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Old School 44
So how long do you think it will be before she's offered a head coaching position? I think she did a fantastic job with the summer league team. Not that she's not capable, but somebody will fast track her to a head coaching spot. Coaching with the Spurs and winning the SL title will help justify the owners selection. With her ties to Colorado, maybe the Nuggets would be a good candidate.
Her options are either to stay within the Spurs system (where Pop will be there for the next 5 years) or to get some experience in the D-league. Upside of the 2nd is that you learn more about being a head coach, downside is that you don't get experience with the real NBA game.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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Originally Posted by
Dro210
Yea I think they're for sure content.
Way I see it, there's 144 minutes between the 1-2-3 spots:
32 for Kawhi, 29 for Danny, 28 for Tony, 19 for Manu, 18 for Patty.
That's 126 minutes. Leaving 18 for KA and Simmons, with RayRay trying to get in on the action too. Throw in some small ball lineups that have Kawhi, or even Kyle at the 4; that wouldn't happen often or for long, so you'd likely only gain a few minutes there.
You could break it down to 96 at the 2-3:
29 for Kawhi (all at 3), 29 for Danny, 13 for Manu (all at 2), 6 for Patty (all at 2).
That's 77. Leaving 19 minutes at the 2-3. I think 11 at the SF (if you gave Kawhi 3 minutes at the 4), and 8 at SG
96 min breakdown for 1-2:
28 for Tony (all at 1), 21 for Danny (all at 2), 19 for Manu, 18 for Patty.
That's 88. Leaving 10 minutes at the 1-2. 8 at SG like I said, and 2 for RayRay (or even the Simmons or KA at PG experiment? Doubtful). The 2 third string PG minutes is the one that seems off since Cojo averaged so many minutes last year, but idk where I'm off. Maybe too many of Manu's minutes at point (6), but seems like that could just be adjusted to less time at 2 for Patty (also 6) and more at the 1.
I'm pulling these number out of my ass, but I think they're fairly accurate. Maybe somebody has something better?... but I think it shows that during a key game that goes the distance, where Kawhi's jumped up to 38-40 minutes and DG's at 35, there's not all that much left. LMA is gonna play more than Splitter ever did, and DWest is gonna play more than The Banga. Timmy will play slightly less than last year.
In the regular season, I'm certain that McCallum will get a ton of minutes (similar to Cojo). Spurs are going to rest Parker to make sure he's healthy come playoff time.
I do hope though that Simmons and Anderson do get some burn in regular season.
Playoffs going to be totally different, one of either Simmons or Anderson has to step up to replace the time Belinelli spent playing. There is no way that Kawhi, Danny or Mills are receiving more minutes that they previously received. Ginobili will also have less minutes. So I am absolutely sure that one of these two will have to be on the court come playoff time. I don't expect McCallum to be in rotation come playoff (just like CoJo wasn't in the rotation)
My gut tells me that Simmons will be called in for his defense. There is an obvious deficiency in the 2nd team of not having big and quick defenders. Think about the Clippers with Stevenson and Crawford, you can't expect any of the starters to spend time guarding these two. Simmons and Ginobili may be the only two options. McCallum is too small and Anderson is too slow.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
Bufford signed Bonner, that tells me that he's content with the talent in the current roster.
That also tells me that Anderson and Simmons are going to get playing time considering that there are only 3 veteran players covering SG and SF.
and 1 of them is a 38 yr. Old star who has been prone to injuries throughout his career. Ppl acting like Pop will overplay other guys in order to avoid giving time to this two are ignoring all precedent. These 2 might be in the doghouse at times or Pop may be on them hard but they will play for sure. All of Marcos minutes will go to these two. I always had the thought MArco was not coming back 1. Bc he wanted to get paid this contract around, and he knew Spurs would be cash strapped after going for a markee FA; 2.. Kyle as going to get opportunities to wrestle minutes at SF away from him this yr anyways and he wanted no part of that competition.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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Originally Posted by
Old School 44
So how long do you think it will be before she's offered a head coaching position? I think she did a fantastic job with the summer league team. Not that she's not capable, but somebody will fast track her to a head coaching spot. Coaching with the Spurs and winning the SL title will help justify the owners selection. With her ties to Colorado, maybe the Nuggets would be a good candidate.
Too optimistic. I don't believe the NBA is ready for that. Maybe in 5 years if she sticks around long term and becomes a more prominent assistant coach.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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MVPCues
Too optimistic. I don't believe the NBA is ready for that. Maybe in 5 years if she sticks around long term and becomes a more prominent assistant coach.
I agree. Head coach in the NBA is like virtually running a corporation. You got to have an entire team built around you. Look at what Steve Kerr did, brought in a lot of his minions.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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Originally Posted by
SAGirl
and 1 of them is a 38 yr. Old star who has been prone to injuries throughout his career. Ppl acting like Pop will overplay other guys in order to avoid giving time to this two are ignoring all precedent. These 2 might be in the doghouse at times or Pop may be on them hard but they will play for sure. All of Marcos minutes will go to these two. I always had the thought MArco was not coming back 1. Bc he wanted to get paid this contract around, and he knew Spurs would be cash strapped after going for a markee FA; 2.. Kyle as going to get opportunities to wrestle minutes at SF away from him this yr anyways and he wanted no part of that competition.
You don't sign a 38 year old to the minimum and then expect him to take a ton of minutes. Leonard and Green are the only two veterans that are big enough for the SF and SG role. Looks like PATFO have decided to take the gamble and let Anderson or Simmons play.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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MVPCues
Too optimistic. I don't believe the NBA is ready for that. Maybe in 5 years if she sticks around long term and becomes a more prominent assistant coach.
I think it will happen sooner than that. I'm thinking a year or two. I'm not saying whether it's deserving or not, I just think an owner will take a shot.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
Some good quotes on Becky here: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13...e-championship
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Jonathon Simmons scored 23 points and took home MVP honors in the championship game. Treveon Graham added 22 points for the Spurs.
"It's amazing. It was a humbling experience for all of us," Simmons told NBATV of playing for Hammon. "I really love her, and I've only known her a couple days. She's a real cool coach. She's a player coach. That's something we all like."
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"You never know what your journey has in store," Hammon said, according to Sports Illustrated. "You just work hard and keep your nose to the grind. You do things the right way, you treat people the right way, and good things happen. ... I'm just thankful that [Popovich] trusted me with the guys in that locker room and that those guys trusted me back."
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
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Originally Posted by
Old School 44
I think it will happen sooner than that. I'm thinking a year or two. I'm not saying whether it's deserving or not, I just think an owner will take a shot.
Agreed. Three years, tops. Obviously, one of the quickest ways to build a team around the "Spurs way" of playing ball is to hire a coach who already has that corporate knowledge, and it doesn't hurt Becky's prospects that one of Pop's former players and one of his assistant coaches (Kerr and Bud) had historically good seasons running their respective teams using the Spurs as a model.
Not to mention the PR a team would receive, which would dwarf the attention she and the Spurs got when she was hired as an assistant coach.
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Re: Quick Thoughts - 2015 Summer League Finals (Spurs vs. Suns)
I think you're too kind on Andersons defence. He's improving in 1-on-1 defence but he's an awful team defender, getting lost regularly.