My expectations from Parker for the 2015-2016 campaign.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

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FkLA is a notorious Parker hater from Italy

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

The problem ia, even if he wanted to, he just couldnt anymore. Top 5 pg is long gone and is gone forever.

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This is what you think but tbh, I think it's way too soon to tell. Give the guy some slack, I still don't know after all these years why some so-called Spurs fans hate him.

Let him come back, he had a season plagued with injuries, let's hope he comes back healthy but in the meantime it's nothing but wild guessing to assume he won't be back at some good level. The additions of Aldridge and West will be good for him, it will give him space in the paint and it will take off some offensive weight in terms of scoring (especially Aldridge).

I honestly think he will be fine, but at this point it's just guess.

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Originally Posted by timtonymanu

Or "he's not 100% right now."

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He already pulled the sore ankle, achilles and hamstring excuses in recent years. I wonder what minor injury excuse is next?

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Originally Posted by Macca76

This is what you think but tbh, I think it's way too soon to tell. Give the guy some slack, I still don't know after all these years why some so-called Spurs fans hate him.

Let him come back, he had a season plagued with injuries, let's hope he comes back healthy but in the meantime it's nothing but wild guessing to assume he won't be back at some good level. The additions of Aldridge and West will be good for him, it will give him space in the paint and it will take off some offensive weight in terms of scoring (especially Aldridge).

I honestly think he will be fine, but at this point it's just guess.

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Originally Posted by Macca76

This is what you think but tbh, I think it's way too soon to tell. Give the guy some slack, I still don't know after all these years why some so-called Spurs fans hate him.

Let him come back, he had a season plagued with injuries, let's hope he comes back healthy but in the meantime it's nothing but wild guessing to assume he won't be back at some good level. The additions of Aldridge and West will be good for him, it will give him space in the paint and it will take off some offensive weight in terms of scoring (especially Aldridge).

I honestly think he will be fine, but at this point it's just guess.

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Stop being biased. He wont ever come near steph, wesbrook, cp3, irving, lillard, lowry, conley, teague. He wont be top 5 again. And we dont need him to be. I dont get why big parker fans always want him to "score more" as if its the only way to say he's back or he's helping the team. What the spurs need now is a court general and a facilitator and even a declining parker can do that if he committed to it.

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

Stop being biased. He wont ever come near steph, wesbrook, cp3, irving, lillard, lowry, conley, teague. He wont be top 5 again. And we dont need him to be. I dont get why big parker fans always want him to "score more" as if its the only way to say he's back or he's helping the team. What the spurs need now is a court general and a facilitator and even a declining parker can do that if he committed to it.

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You're right about top 5, maybe I got carried away because of all the bullshit pulled by Parkert haters this last season and I misread your post, I didn't focus enough about the Top 5 part. However I don't agree with the fact that he won't be nowhere near your list.
He'll be behind some players of that list, that's sure but not all. Well, maybe all but not far behind. A healthy Parker can be close to these players and it is your assumption to say that he won't come near them.
Maybe you're right, but my point is that it's far too soon to write him off. Maybe I'm biased (I don't think honestly), maybe I'm just not ready to give up on a player after an injury season, but I'm not worried about him.
About the scoring part, I disagree. We need easy points in the paint and we need TP to be able to score 10 in a quarter when needed. He's a court general and he's a facilitator but IMO, this part is shared in the Spurs team and THIS team doesn't rely on our PG for this as many other teams do.
And more over the PG position today is a scoring position.
Anyway, just my 2 cents on this.
PS : call me biased just because I'm French is jumping to conclusions just a little bit :p:

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Originally Posted by Macca76

You're right about top 5, maybe I got carried away because of all the bullshit pulled by Parkert haters this last season and I misread your post, I didn't focus enough about the Top 5 part. However I don't agree with the fact that he won't be nowhere near your list.
He'll be behind some players of that list, that's sure but not all. Well, maybe all but not far behind. A healthy Parker can be close to these players and it is your assumption to say that he won't come near them.
Maybe you're right, but my point is that it's far too soon to write him off. Maybe I'm biased (I don't think honestly), maybe I'm just not ready to give up on a player after an injury season, but I'm not worried about him.
About the scoring part, I disagree. We need easy points in the paint and we need TP to be able to score 10 in a quarter when needed. He's a court general and he's a facilitator but IMO, this part is shared in the Spurs team and THIS team doesn't rely on our PG for this as many other teams do.
And more over the PG position today is a scoring position.
Anyway, just my 2 cents on this.
PS : call me biased just because I'm French is jumping to conclusions just a little bit :p:

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I disagree about the scoring part. Look no further than game 7 last season, yeah sure he scored 20 plus points but we lost because the offense was in shambles. No one was able to facilitate it well enough and Pop for some otherworldy reason didnt play Patty to finish off games despite of his early heroics in the series. Yah the pg position is more on scoring but the Spurs is a different team, for instance, if Steph doesnt score as much they will have much problem at winning games look at games 2 and 3 against memphis. When the cavs lost irving, lebron had to do all the work offensively. When Conley isnt going, the Memphis offense stagnates. The spurs are different, we dont need parker to score a lot, hell we dont even need mills to score alot we value patty's spark and energy more, his scoring only second.

I dont care for nationalities, the most obnoxious parkertards here are americans :lol

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

I disagree about the scoring part. Look no further than game 7 last season, yeah sure he scored 20 plus points but we lost because the offense was in shambles. No one was able to facilitate it well enough and Pop for some otherworldy reason didnt play Patty to finish off games despite of his early heroics in the series. Yah the pg position is more on scoring but the Spurs is a different team, for instance, if Steph doesnt score as much they will have much problem at winning games look at games 2 and 3 against memphis. When the cavs lost irving, lebron had to do all the work offensively. When Conley isnt going, the Memphis offense stagnates. The spurs are different, we dont need parker to score a lot, hell we dont even need mills to score alot we value patty's spark and energy more, his scoring only second.

I dont care for nationalities, the most obnoxious parkertards here are americans :lol

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Let's say it differently : his effectiveness as a distributor is higher when he is a weapon on offense and when defenses really fear him so in the end I guess everything is connected. But I hear you about the fact that don't rely on 25 pts from him to win games. However I think that he needs his own offense to be good to facilitate the offense of others. And I think we missed last year the sparks he could give us at the beginning of the games when he could score easy points in the point at times when our offense wasn't really flowing.

In the past his plays in the paint opened up things for shooters and with the addition of LMA and DW, I think he's gonna be the one that will benefit the most from high % midrange shooters, things will be easier for him and maybe Simmons should he play.

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Originally Posted by xellos88330

If you were an opposing defense, who would you send to help? IMO, the best person to help off of would be Parker. This is not meant as a slight against Parker, but it is simply mathematical. Parker just isn't a long range threat like Green or Leonard. Keeping this in mind, last season Parker took and made the most threes since 2005 according to basketball-reference.com The wrinkle in this is that he posted a career high 3pt percentage at 42.7%. I remember watching the season that the 3's he was attempting weren't mainly from the corner as in previous years (excluding the beginning of his career). I found this quite surprising.

Long story short, I was mulling it over and I am actually thinking that Parker will have banner year. Of all of the starting 5, I believe that Parker will be the one who benefits most from the signing of Aldridge. Should his 3pt % show last season wasn't a fluke, Parker will most likely tear this league a new one.

I know that everyone is hungover from celebrating our summer title last night, but I would like to have your serious thoughts on your expectations of Parker this upcoming season. :toast

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Aldridge will space the floor giving Parker free reign to make his layups.

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

Stop being biased. He wont ever come near steph, wesbrook, cp3, irving, lillard, lowry, conley, teague. He wont be top 5 again. And we dont need him to be. I dont get why big parker fans always want him to "score more" as if its the only way to say he's back or he's helping the team. What the spurs need now is a court general and a facilitator and even a declining parker can do that if he committed to it.

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Why are you such a doubter? Its a valid point that Aldridge and West will open things up for Parker and I think he'll be more self motivated than the year before. I too think he should be more of a facilitator but that will only happen if he's pulling in defenders because of his scoring. Health and less minutes are the key

Everyone wants to shit on Parker after he was injured last year and couldn't stay in basketball shape ..... He may never be as great as he was but if he is healthy he will be a solid player and be critical to our success.


Meanwhile, the real problem is ginobili. Dude has no legs, can't shoot, has trouble creating separation, makes a lot of bad decisions and I only see it getting worse...... As much as I love pop I think he will probably stick with ginobili and give him minutes he doesn't deserve out of his love for ginobili.... Could be a major problem in the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by steeledl

Everyone wants to shit on Parker after he was injured last year and couldn't stay in basketball shape ..... He may never be as great as he was but if he is healthy he will be a solid player and be critical to our success.


Meanwhile, the real problem is ginobili. Dude has no legs, can't shoot, has trouble creating separation, makes a lot of bad decisions and I only see it getting worse...... As much as I love pop I think he will probably stick with ginobili and give him minutes he doesn't deserve out of his love for ginobili.... Could be a major problem in the playoffs.

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In the last three seasons, Parker's 3 pt %s have been 35.3%, 37.3%, and 42.7%. In those same three seasons, his FT%s have been 84.5%, 81.1%, and 78.3%. All of these percentages are above his career averages for 3pt and FT shooting, so I think it's clear he has improved as a pure shooter. I'd like for him to double the amount of threes he takes-- I think that would only open up the driving lanes for him more. And that would still only mean barely over one made three per game. Sure, he has lost speed, but he's still a reliable ball handler, and all he needs to do is take advantage of the open lanes LMA and West will afford him while playing smart...

Its kinda hard to say after last season and he is 33 now.still i think hes good for 16/6 and if he could throw in some steals that would be nice

Pop will tinker with lineups maniacally. He has 4 and maybe 5 bigs that can shoot, post up, and defend. A dynamic 3 that can do both.

Backup 1-3 is intriguing. Mills, McCallum, Manu, Anderson and Simmons.

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Originally Posted by steeledl

Everyone wants to shit on Parker after he was injured last year and couldn't stay in basketball shape ..... He may never be as great as he was but if he is healthy he will be a solid player and be critical to our success.


Meanwhile, the real problem is ginobili. Dude has no legs, can't shoot, has trouble creating separation, makes a lot of bad decisions and I only see it getting worse...... As much as I love pop I think he will probably stick with ginobili and give him minutes he doesn't deserve out of his love for ginobili.... Could be a major problem in the playoffs.

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Manu vs Parker mentality is the problem.

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Originally Posted by steeledl

Everyone wants to shit on Parker after he was injured last year and couldn't stay in basketball shape ..... He may never be as great as he was but if he is healthy he will be a solid player and be critical to our success.


Meanwhile, the real problem is ginobili. Dude has no legs, can't shoot, has trouble creating separation, makes a lot of bad decisions and I only see it getting worse...... As much as I love pop I think he will probably stick with ginobili and give him minutes he doesn't deserve out of his love for ginobili.... Could be a major problem in the playoffs.

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I'm curious to know if player fans on this site really want to see certain players fail because of their own fixation on someone else. I have a favorite player, but I would never choose that players success over the team. I feel like some posters would choose an outing in the playoffs (if that would mean Parker would play terrible), over the Spurs winning a championship (by means of Parker winning another FMVP).

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Originally Posted by AFMadison

I'm curious to know if player fans on this site really want to see certain players fail because of their own fixation on someone else. I have a favorite player, but I would never choose that players success over the team. I feel like some posters would choose an outing in the playoffs (if that would mean Parker would play terrible), over the Spurs winning a championship (by means of Parker winning another FMVP).

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That's the sad truth. They're only 0.05% of ST, but unfortunately they spam the board with their BS all they want. Don't mind them tbh

We need him healthy. First and foremost.

Outside of that it's up to him how he will adapt to the inevitable loss of speed, so crucial so far in his career.

Him "reinventing" himself will determine his post-prime career.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

That's the sad truth. They're only 0.05% of ST, but unfortunately they spam the board with their BS all they want. Don't mind them tbh

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It would be nice if everyone joined in on completely ignoring them. It would be kind of funny to see their mentality change after a few weeks of nobody responding.

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Originally Posted by JuneJive

We need him healthy. First and foremost.

Outside of that it's up to him how he will adapt to the inevitable loss of speed, so crucial so far in his career.

Him "reinventing" himself will determine his post-prime career.

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I think polishing up his 3 point shot was a good start. I think he should work on his midrange. Pull pnr defenders away from Duncan/Aldridge.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

Manu vs Parker mentality is the problem.

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I don't hate ginobili. He isn't my favorite player but if the dude had game I'd love it if he won the mvp and led us to a championship.... I'm just of the opinion that he doesn't have much left.

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Originally Posted by AFMadison

I'm curious to know if player fans on this site really want to see certain players fail because of their own fixation on someone else. I have a favorite player, but I would never choose that players success over the team. I feel like some posters would choose an outing in the playoffs (if that would mean Parker would play terrible), over the Spurs winning a championship (by means of Parker winning another FMVP).

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Or maybe we just like the Spurs so much that we don't want to see a repeat of last season, when Enrique dragged the team down the way he did. Y'all are the faggots that want to keep trodding his fat ass out there even if it means another 1st Rd exit. So ask yourself who is really the player fan?

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

That's the sad truth. They're only 0.05% of ST, but unfortunately they spam the board with their BS all they want. Don't mind them tbh

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Stfu. You and a select few on this forum do the same crap with leonard.