I was talking about importance not actually what they do. Bruce is a role player. Green is a role player. Kawhi is a star. Manu and Tony are stars. You're the one comparing the wrong players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
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I was talking about importance not actually what they do. Bruce is a role player. Green is a role player. Kawhi is a star. Manu and Tony are stars. You're the one comparing the wrong players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
No kawhi no timmyno manu no tiago no a lot of players. A cop out statement. Doesn't describe which provided the most tbh.
Good thread by the OP surprisingly.
Anyway I would personally go with Green for pretty much the same reason as op. Please stick to threads like this op, much better than your overdone Parker bashing.
:bobo
You could say the same thing about '14. Bowen was integral to stopping Lebron. His rep as a dirty player probably cost Bruce multiple DPOY awards. Just because he didn't fill up a stat sheet people forget what he brought to the team. He instilled fear in our opponents, he got into the heads of the other team's best shooters. On top of his defense he was a 40% 3-point shooter. He was as important as the Big 3 during the '03 to '07 run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
I saw Bruce outplay an in-his-prime Kobe Bryant in the playoffs. Bowen's accomplishments were overshadowed sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Really? Thats ridiculous. Don't get me wrong Bruce was an important piece in us winning those titles. But to say he was as important as the big 3 during that run is insane. No Duncan and those teams were probably not even making the playoffs. Especially the 03 team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
Bruce got to play with a prime big 3 not really fair to compare.
What?!? GTFOOH. :lol He gave Nash nightmares.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
People forget the importance of having an elite perimeter defender in the playoffs. There's a reason why the Spurs didn't do much in the playoffs after Bruce left and before Kawhi emerged. That role becomes supremely important in the post season. The Spurs were also-rans in the post season from '09-'12, and it's no coincidence that Bruce not being there was a factor in that. The Big 3 was there during that span. The missing piece was Bowen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElKingslayer2
The missing piece was a serviceable 2 not richard fucking jefferson. Dude missed 2 fucking free throws when he played for the warriors. Sums up his basketball career with the spurs. I take that as RJ being trash that we couldn't do anything rather than Bruce was some godly basketball player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
:lol Bruce would "instill fear" into the opponents, yeah no. Kobe, Nash, Dirk, TMac, VC, Ray Allen, all used to destroy him. Especially Kobe and Dirk.
"instill fear" "killer instinct"Quote:
Originally Posted by Floyd Pacquiao
:lol
Lol at the thought of Danny attempting to guard Dirk for a whole game, much less a whole series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Floyd Pacquiao
Any of those guys in their prime could destroy any defender one on one on any given night. Thats hardly evidence for Danny > Bruce.
"Gritty" Hard Nosed" "Tenacious"Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
:lol
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
Yeah I wouldn't want Danny guarding Dirk, that's retarded. I also think its retarded when people actually think bruce could guard Dirk cause he couldn't. He got his ass kicked on the reg.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
One pic. What about it?
Hands down, Bowen (see what I did there?)
Seems as if most of the Bowen haters started watching the Spurs after 2007. Green has shown flashes but nothing consistently. Yes, Bowen played in more of a one on one era than it is now, and it is true the folks he guarded did have big games, but save for those crazy series against the Suns I don't recall teams routinely cracking 90 against the Spurs. It's almost as if those guys took it upon themselves to demolish Bruce and thus took most of the shot clock to score. And at considerable physical effort.
Lol that the team stopped Lebron in '07. That was pretty much Bowen, and mainly because Lebron couldn't shoot jumpers, the Cavs had no offense besides giving him the ball and standing around, and Bowen executed the game plan perfectly of making him shoot Js.
To watch Bowen at his best was to see a guy know exactly where his opponent wanted to go and derail him. He was always a step ahead and knew to take away the opponent's favorite move. And he was never standing still waiting for the guy to make a move first. He made their lives miserable because of how he pestered them even when just standing around.
Neat pic of a block. Now post their series stats where Dirk averaged 30 and 10 on 50% shootingQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkwaters
It's fucking awesome. Thats all.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
http://www.playmakeronline.com/wp-co...als-Game-6.jpg
"Mooooooooom! They're picking on me! Errrrrrrrrik! Do something!"
Cool.
Look guise! Bruce shutting down lebron in the finals! :lolYeah no, lebron was blowing by him easily. Duncan cleaned up his mess beautifully.
Vid-----> https://youtu.be/qkYl1eKTfZs
The only way to stop prime Dirk was a double team. Bowen's goal wasnt to stop him. He was just trying to deny him position and make him work for his shots without calling for help. In the end, that strategy almost paid off. Fast forward to 2014, in the not too common occurrence Danny got switched onto Dirk, hello doubleteam. Bowen just had more presence on the defensive end of the court. Of course, Im sure theres certain matchups, especially with fast PGs that Danny would probably be better suited for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Floyd Pacquiao