Spurs ballhandler/playmakin ranking. nonbiased opinions only please.

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Originally Posted by From Downtown

This basically

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thanks man!

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Originally Posted by z0sa

I know very little about the dude. I doubt he'll see any real meaningful minutes . . . to start the season. Which is why I added that caveat in. :angel

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Thus the flyin under the radar comment. He definitely isn't on your radar. I think he'll play, and soon. He's not a D-league call up. But, of course, this is just my humble opinion. Time may tell.

Manu
Diaw
TP

And we don't really have anybody else right now. We'll see how McCallum looks.

Well,as I said I don't know much about McCallum as I don't watch the Kings regularly,but when asked about him RC said he's an improvement over CoJo when it comes to running a team,so he has to be at least decent as a ballhandler/playmaker

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Originally Posted by tatteredprince

(1) Manu ------ best passer

(2) Tony ------- best ballhandler

(3) Diaw --------best passing big

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I'd go with this.

A couple years ago I could see putting Manu 1st, but last year he just made do many turnovers.

In just ball handling, I'd say Parker. He never gets trapped of has to pock up the ball.

Playmaking, the Spurs offense is all about motion and multiple passes. Diaw would be towards the top.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Manu
Diaw
TP

And we don't really have anybody else right now. We'll see how McCallum looks.

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This.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Manu

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old as dirt. can't play major minutes

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Diaw

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niche ballhandler

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TP

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looked like shit last season

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And we don't really have anybody else right now. We'll see how McCallum looks.

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you damn wrong. we need someone else here

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Originally Posted by ceperez

Yeah, you are probably right here. Probably Aldridge and Duncan ranking should be switched.

Should look like this then:


Diaw
Ginobili <-- took minimum
Parker
McCallum
Duncan <-- took a discount
Simmons <-- can slash and dish out
Anderson
Aldridge <- max player
Leonard <- max player
West
Mills <---- can only make a play for himself.
Marjanovic
Green <-- broken play everytime he dribbles ball.
Bonner

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I like your rankings, but I have to note, I have not watched Ray Ray, so I have to take your word for it. Truthfully, I will enjoy watching his play this season, to me he's an unknown new guy. I do like that RC said he's ahead in PG development than CoJo was at that same stage. I would be higher on Anderson than Simmons simply bc Simmons is unproven. Anderson did play some NBA minutes last season and while he did not shoot or defend well, two things he did do well were rebound and pass. He had the highest AS to TO ratio of anyone on the team last year (limited minutes but still impressive). He averaged almost 1 assist per game in 8 mins. per game, and that is impressive for a guy who was just an afterthought in the offense last season and had no chemistry with guys. He just played really smart passing the ball at an NBA level and I can't dismiss that ahead of Simmons who still hasn't shown me the same. Simmons AS to TO ratio also concerned me. He was poor in the D'league in that front, but seems to be improving.
Mills I think had some limited pick and roll with Tiago, and will find an open guy, but he is a gunner and no one would mistake him for a passer. Other than these observations I agree on everything else.

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Originally Posted by tatteredprince

(1) Manu ------ best passer

(2) Tony ------- best ballhandler

(3) Diaw --------best passing big

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Spot on. :toast