The official Kawhi Leonard breakout AKA SUPERSTARDOM Year....

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Originally Posted by ducks

leonard averages 20 or more spurs are going to be in trouble
they need his energy for d
pop has told tp before not to score just shut down a player and he has
I would think they might be some games with all the new o with spurs he would ask leonard to shut down a player....like a curry

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:lmao

The spurs got back in contention last year by allowing Leonard to be an offensive focus.

French bias:lmao

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Vanilla player fan thread.

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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

:lmao

The spurs got back in contention last year by allowing Leonard to be an offensive focus.

French bias:lmao

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pop did tell tp that a few years ago you would not know because leonard was not a spur then

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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

:lmao

The spurs got back in contention last year by allowing Leonard to be an offensive focus.

French bias:lmao

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last year they did not have alridge and west
alridge averaged 23 a game and west averaged 12

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Originally Posted by 313

He'll also go down with his yearly injury which will hurt his chances

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he has not even been healthy doing training camp which would help and last year pop wanted to give him more o but he was always hurt

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Originally Posted by Sean Cagney

17 PPG and 50% shooting is actually very impressive so I will take that. If he gets higher cool, if not that is very good.

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Agreed and I think its realistic now that Kawhi won't be asked to be the number 1 option on offense that he will be able to shoot a higher percentage this year. Kawhi is an inconsistent scorer so having LMA helps the spurs in situations where he lays eggs like he did against the clippers after the first 4 games.

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Dementia has set in.
When do you recall a free agency haul like this year?

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That doesnt mean things will be 82-0 and 16-0.
Doesnt mean Porker will not be a pain in the ass hurting our marvelous roster.
Things are really nice on paper just not in reality because season hasnt started yet so I dont get the dementia references.
They are gonna kill that poor woman man.

if lma does well and spurs are the number one seed I could see lma get mentioned for the mvp award
I think he will average the most points on the spurs
but it could be a year that no spur averages 20 points a game

This whole "nobody understands how good Kawhi is" schtick is pretty ridiculous... Every true basketball fan appreciates him, and he has the DPOY award (despite missing significant time with injuries) to prove it. Pop and multiple players are on record saying he's the foundation of the new Spurs. It's not a secret. That being said, I'd bet he scores just under 20ppg with higher efficiency than last season. I'd offer to bet money on it, but everyone here knows Apalisoc_9 isn't remotely honest & doesn't follow through on promises made on spurstalk, the proof being that he still posts...

We need game 1-4 kawhi, not game 5-7

ah these threads ... I missed them ...

















not

I'm hoping the Spurs will lead the league in # of players who average double figures in scoring...

But of course, the player fans will be more interested in having their favorite players lead the team in scoring...

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

We need game 1-4 kawhi, not game 5-7

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In a vanilla thread this ups the vanilla to extreme.

A couple points. Kawhi won't win dpoy or mvp. Those are popularity awards and kawhi barely beat d green last year. Either green gets his makeup call, gobert gets it, or one of the old name veterans (d Jordan, Chandler, hibbert)


Likewise, mvp goes to curry, LeBron, Durant, Davis, Westbrook, harden, lma, and then maybe kawhi, but again probably dray before him.


The best target for k is all star and nba second our first team. And of course the lob.

I'd be happy with another FMVP. That trumps league MVP for me.


As long as Tim rings.

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Originally Posted by manufan10

I'd be happy with another FMVP. That trumps league MVP for me.


As long as Tim rings.

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Again though, wouldn't lma be more likely? People acting like is big three vs k and nope, not on offense. If kawhi is our best player next year then something went terribly wrong.

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Originally Posted by K...

In a vanilla thread this ups the vanilla to extreme.

A couple points. Kawhi won't win dpoy or mvp. Those are popularity awards and kawhi barely beat d green last year. Either green gets his makeup call, gobert gets it, or one of the old name veterans (d Jordan, Chandler, hibbert)


Likewise, mvp goes to curry, LeBron, Durant, Davis, Westbrook, harden, lma, and then maybe kawhi, but again probably dray before him.


The best target for k is all star and nba second our first team. And of course the lob.

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Old faggots trying to talk basktball..

:lmao

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Originally Posted by K...

In a vanilla thread this ups the vanilla to extreme.

A couple points. Kawhi won't win dpoy or mvp. Those are popularity awards and kawhi barely beat d green last year. Either green gets his makeup call, gobert gets it, or one of the old name veterans (d Jordan, Chandler, hibbert)


Likewise, mvp goes to curry, LeBron, Durant, Davis, Westbrook, harden, lma, and then maybe kawhi, but again probably dray before him.


The best target for k is all star and nba second our first team. And of course the lob.

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i dont think you quoted the person you think you quoted. none of your response made any sense to what i posted

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

i dont think you quoted the person you think you quoted. none of your response made any sense to what i posted

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Well what I meant is that you made an irrelevant argument

"We need game 1-4 kawhi" that literally means "We need good play kawhi" thats hard hitting analysis.








Good to see apo thinks I'm old. Or that age invalidates my analysis. Kawhi is going to be good, but expect lma to be the star. It could be star 1a and 1b but not any better then that.








The point about awards is the delusions of op. Kawhi won't win either dpoy or mvp.

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Originally Posted by K...

In a vanilla thread this ups the vanilla to extreme.

A couple points. Kawhi won't win dpoy or mvp. Those are popularity awards and kawhi barely beat d green last year. Either green gets his makeup call, gobert gets it, or one of the old name veterans (d Jordan, Chandler, hibbert)
Kawhi barely beat green, but If kawhi hadnt missed so many games he might have just run away with the dpoy award his missed games is what made it close imo. top 3 for mvp next season will likely be AD, lebron, and maybe durant if he can get back to his old self...................then curry, harden, and westbrook Spurs too stacked to have 1 player being far and away the best player on the team.

Likewise, mvp goes to curry, LeBron, Durant, Davis, Westbrook, harden, lma, and then maybe kawhi, but again probably dray before him.


The best target for k is all star and nba second our first team. And of course the lob.

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If kawhi hadnt missed as many games as he did, he might have just run away with the dpoy award. His missed games is what made it close imo. Top 3 mvp canidates will likely be AD,Lebron and KD (if he can get back to his old self.) with curry, harden, westbrook falling far behind.

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Originally Posted by K...

Kawhi won't win either dpoy or mvp.

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Why can't he win DPOY again? Hell, he's already done it...

KL will never average 21ppg...

but he could still be elite in other ways

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Originally Posted by K...

"We need game 1-4 kawhi" that literally means "We need good play kawhi" thats hard hitting analysis.

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well... yeah. the spurs have shown they're a championship caliber team, particularly when kawhi is playing at his best. when kawhi was poor down the stretch, the team struggled.

part of getting better as a player is also increased responsibility. while we all praise kawhi's development, it also means the team relies on him more. the better he gets, the more reliance there will be. so if he's going to have letdowns in the playoffs, we aren't going to get far.

the opposite can be said about tony. as he has declined, the team relies on him less. he's not as instrumental to our success as he had been before. nobody here expects him to play like mvparker again.

"I hate player fans"
Lol
I hope they win #6. IDGAF about a damn league MVP.

As long as Matt Barnes is in the league Kawhi will never be a superstar.

I fully expect Kawhi to be a 18ppg scorer(no less than 17) like he did at the end of last year. If he scorers more than that I would be happy, but not at the expense of the defense he played last year (especially at the end, those were Pippen numbers in less minutes!). Without Lamarcus I would be saying otherwise because Kawhi probably could be a 20-22ppg on 48-51% and 4apg kinda guy(and any defensive drop of would be mitigated by Danny somewhat). But with Lamarcus the team is best served with Kawhi second to him on offence so Kawhi can defiantly maintain DPOY level defense(and even improve).

The most important thing for Kawhi to do is stay consistent (in play and health) so the team doesn't have to lean on the older players. I'm confident he can play well 95% of the time but Kawhi may just be injury prone. I'm not ready to say that yet, but if he gets another injury, especially a hand injury, I won't be able to say otherwise...