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Nice. Love David West!
Seems like a good dude. Pretty humble too.
Spurs bench is going to be fucking scary this season.
Still can't believe we got Aldridge AND West :lol holy shit
Most summers landing West alone woulda been huge
Shits gonna be fun
West + LMA = Inefficient midrange Js all game :bang
You're right, we should just play Matt Bonner 48 minutes and have him launch 3's non stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by playbonner15
AND kept Danny Green.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
At the beginning of the offseason, I would have counted just getting Aldridge a huge success. I honestly thought Danny Green was gone, but the fact we got to keep one of the best 3 & D players in the league is just crazy. One of the best offseasons ever!!
We now have two of the most efficient midrange players in the game, which has become the open spot on the floor. I have a hard time believing that's a bad thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by playbonner15
And people here thought green was fed up with being pops whipping boy and he would leave. So dramatic :lol. Green knows pop brings out the best in him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vokun
It should definitely help the spacing. However, an elite mid-range jump shooter (50%) is only as efficient as a below-average three point shooter (33.3%). That and a three point shooter draws his man even further from the basket. This is why getting Aldridge to make threes at even a 35% clip is worthwhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
This is why their former teams never even sniffed the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by playbonner15
There's a large patch of floor where David West hit 52% of his midrange jumpers.
Dafuq you on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
West also manages to take a few FT per game, so it's not quite as easy as that. Also, open 3pt shots vanish on the playoffs, but a big like West can still get his shot off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seventyniner
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With the personnel the Spurs have now they can play any style. They can go big, they can go small. They can go to the rim, mid range or all the way out to the three point line. I think it's going to be a crazy year, 65+ wins. The team is so deep. Even with a conservative Pop resting guys, I still think we will get to that lofty win total.
West just needs to be our Alpha male.
When Pop orders some nasty, West's job is to enforce it. We badly needed a hardass on this team and we got it with West. This is going to be a fun season!!
Always need a dude like West on your team. I think his new teammates are going to love playing beside him
Great guy and coming for the rght reasons, "to win games!"
Exactly. The mid range two point shot is practically worthless. Last season I've seen West start taking 3 point shots. He's got great form and high accuracy, so I think he could improve in this area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seventyniner
The 3 point shot also ensures spacing for the folks attacking the rim, so it servers a dual purpose in the offense.
These are two of the best mid range jumpers in the game. Every team struggles to cover it. It's not worthless in the least bit. Go watch their games against okc, clippers, and new Orleans and see how the big defenders are forced out of the paint to cover those jumpers. It makes life ridiculously easier on Parker, Kawhi, and ginobilli with the inside game. You cover the drive and get a wide open mid range. Those guys don't miss wide open shots.
Does anyone remember how deflating it was when Ibaka was hitting those on us? Right after we had shut down a Westbrook or Durant drive.
Not to mention Kawhi lives in that area and it works well for him. We have never had a midrange shooter besides Parker, and when he was hitting them we were unstoppable into the finals.
Teams generally aren't built this way, with 9/10 players who can play at least play 20 minutes at high level. Deepest team in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Old School 44
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I dont understand this midrange thing
Would you explain how the midrange two pointer is worthless??
Wait. What? LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Ya this page went shittake quick:lol
when it comes to clutch offense even Durant with his alien wingspan can't get an uncontested shot against a good defensive effort. no need to argue its easier to score contested 2PT than contested 3PT. Timmy could score only a wild baby hook and I doubt he is too consistent with his bankshot after 30 minutes of playing time. West and Aldridge are monsters of 2 PT jumpshots and that's a pure advantage for us in the clutch.
Folks talk about West's midrange J but what i'm more intrigued about most is how this great passing big will fare in our system..D West is career 2.3 assist per game peaking last year with 3.4 APG :wow..Damn boy that second unit helmed by Manu with Boris + D West+ Mills + maybe Kawhi/Green is going to obliterate the league string stringers :hat
All my friends are calling me psychic as I always said him and Aldridge would one day be spurs. Just never thought they'd sign a few days apart. I'm lovin it
When it rains it pours tbqhQuote:
Originally Posted by hater
Just having his presence and character in our bench made us a lot stronger. And it showed when David accepted less money for playing in the right system and for the right goals. It's evidently that that means more to him than money at this stage of his career. Really glad to have you David.
Blake Griffin was a huge beneficiary of the Splitter injury. I'm hoping that LMA and West can give him fits if we should play the Clips in another playoff series. Cos BG just wasn't even challenged at either end of the court in that series.
I was really glad to hear this. I had a suspicion that he just wants to replace Patty in those HEB commercials.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurs10
Pop doesn't know how to use mid range shooting bigs like LMA and West, it's a problem...
http://www.ee0r.com/lolckyhorror/28-ohnoes.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by kobyz
Except the exact opposite. Pop gets Tim that open 18 footer any time he wants it. Tim just can't knock it down. Let's see if these guys can.Quote:
Originally Posted by kobyz
Barrimg a McDyess / RJ level of age related decline, he'll still be a starting PF caliber player for us.
Pop was the first coach in the league to figure out the dynamics of the three point shot as a invaluable attack weapon if the shooting % is over 33%. However, he also designed an offense that uses that threat to open the lanes for drivers AND FOR PULL UP MID RANGE JUMPERS. You aren't going to be able to shoot nothing but 3s all night in every game.
So the answer to a complete offensive strategy is balance. LMA and West can also drive and pick up fouls from the position on the elbow of the lane. And our guards can continue to play off the bigs in P/Rs and pick up the layups or short range pullups.
I don't see any of our old 3pt shooters or guards complaining about the midrange skills of the new guys. Pop will figure out the right offense and we'll be fine. Fine as his good wine.
RJ was not age related. The guy is a fucking pussyQuote:
Originally Posted by dweaver99027
And MCDyess was a fucking dinosaur when we got him. :lol
Yeah, RJ was a bad fit for the system, bball wise and mentally , although getting older didn't help either. Dice was a functioning T-Rex in a 6th mab role with the Pistons a year before he became a fossil for us 5 months later. Not everyone ages like Tim beyond 34.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
This is why after reading a username like "PlayBonner" will give you a biased thread without so much as looking at the thread title.Quote:
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Sarcasm doesn't translate well in text. Would have worked better if the sentence ended in "right?" Or "amirite?". Right? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by playbonner15
I see now haha, hope it was sarcasm :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Agloco
West was always a Spurs killer and came off kinda cocky so I hated him tbh
[QUOTE=sexinthatsx;8148428]You're right, we should just play Matt Bonner 48 minutes and have him launch 3's non stop.[/QUOTE
:lol
The ESPN and NBA analysts talked about Griffin like he was Lebron 2.0 during that Clippers/Spurs series. They basically said he was unstoppable. Well, now that the spurs have LMA and West he will have a harder time on the defensive end. And even though the clippers got deeper, Doc Rivers still has a habit of playing only 6 deep in the playoffs, so that will wear out Griffin again. Remember when ESPN even had an article about how Griffin learned to be a leader because he attended a meeting with Duncan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
In fairness to the announcers, Blake looked like Lebron 2.0 relative to how the Spurs played him. Splitter would get the ball up top of the key and Blake could just get two or three whacks at the ball while Splitter just had to take it. And an injured Splitter just couldn't cover the ground needed and Blake got open looks all day. He was doing the turn into your opponent shot on Splitter like he wasn't even there because Splitter was clearly fearful of straining something if he tried to muscle him up. A healthy West could really put an end to a lot of that nonsense, I'm hoping. Even if West has a limited regular season role, I really think that's where he'll have added value in these grind-out match-ups in the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by DenialTwist
Blake Griffin when his jumper is dropping is unstoppable, period. Fatigue is the only thing that can stop him in 4th quarters, as we saw both against the Spurs and Rockets.
He's a tougher guard in that scenario (especially for a slower 4). But he's far from unstoppable. But DJ's abilities at the rim make it so the 5 make it so the center can't double, and teams take too much risk doubling off of Reddick or Paul. That meant that the double had to come from Barnes's defender; and that can't always happen. So, basically you need a guy who can hold his own 1 v 1 with Blake. That was not Splitter. I'd argue that at least in limited minutes, that can be West; and Aldridge's length can give Blake problems on the shot on the post and the pass to DJ. Splitter was just duck on the water.Quote:
Originally Posted by dweaver99027
Agreed, he can be slowed 1 on 1 by a good, long, athletic 4, like a focused Josh Smith in the WCSF. Just bodying him up with a strong heavy 4 like West seems iffy to me.
West would have issues with Blake on the perimeter. But he wouldn't be getting owned in the post like Splitter; and he would be making him work on the other end of the court as well. Blake can't be averaging 24 and 12 against you. 19 and 8, sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by dweaver99027
Agreed again, that's why i mentioned Blake's jumper dropping. He gets the ball in the high post and is an elite triple threat facing up. Much more effective than him waiting for an entry pass down low. It all depends on his mid ranger.