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Low budget/ realistic players
Who are the players you are hoping/ wishing get cut from other teams after training camp/ pre season that will fit the spurs system and salary cap.
A rookie we can develope, a veteran that can gives us minutes, someone we can stash in Austin.
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Jimmer. He is our 15th man.
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playjimmer
Jimmer. He is our 15th man.
He will get cut before the end of training camp.
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Roster is set for the most part. Only thing that would interest me is getting a veteran wing player so we can send anderson to Austin .
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steeledl
Roster is set for the most part. Only thing that would interest me is getting a veteran wing player so we can send anderson to Austin .
Anderson's not going anywhere, imo.
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Depends on how he starts the season...
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Spurtacular
Anderson's not going anywhere, imo.
I don't think he is good enough to play this year and the Spurs would rather try to develop his game in the d league than have him sitting as the 12th guy on the bench. I think he will be back and forth depending on injuries and what not....
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steeledl
I don't think he is good enough to play this year and the Spurs would rather try to develop his game in the d league than have him sitting as the 12th guy on the bench. I think he will be back and forth depending on injuries and what not....
Between d-league last year and the summer league, the Spurs probably feel like the development period is over. The training wheels have to come off. Anderson may or may not crack the rotation. He may or may not perform well. But I just don't think it's too likely he'll go back to the d-league. And I especially doubt he'll go back to the d-league to start the season. If he did go back, it would be for the sake of getting reps in the middle of the season.
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Anderson spent a large portion of last season playing in Austin. This year he needs to show he can handle playing against NBA caliber players.
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Papanikolaou would be a decent get, but it's improbable now.
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Spurtacular
Between d-league last year and the summer league, the Spurs probably feel like the development period is over. The training wheels have to come off. Anderson may or may not crack the rotation. He may or may not perform well. But I just don't think it's too likely he'll go back to the d-league. And I especially doubt he'll go back to the d-league to start the season. If he did go back, it would be for the sake of getting reps in the middle of the season.
Pop has been known to develop players long term if they aren't ready. It's not like anderson was a lottery pick..... I see no problem sending him to the d league to develop ...... He still has a lot of bad leaks in his game . I guess we will see though
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Before camp/Out of camp candidates: P. Jones, Bullock, Granger, Martin, Ennis, Miller.
Post trade deadline candidates: Felton, Foye, one of Jennings/Blake, one of Mayo/Bayless, Bennett, Nicholson, Wallace, Kaman, Butler, Webster.
I've already made the case for Miller. The only other somewhat interesting name on this list, is Bullock. But after the Simmons signing, the final wing should be a more proven commodity, specifically in terms of three-point shooting.
I could see them having a surprise veteran at camp, like Delfino or Garcia, to compete with Fredette. We've seen this in the past with Simmons and Maggette. Nobody knew they were coming until media day.
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TXstbobcat
He will get cut before the end of training camp.
Can you get me the winning lottery numbers?
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Might as well wait until the trade deadline. I think several teams will be in full tank mode, and the Spurs might be a destination for solid players on dead-end teams, whether that's via trade or buyout. Scary thought, but the Spurs could actually be deeper at the end of the season than the start.
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TD 21
Before camp/Out of camp candidates: P. Jones, Bullock, Granger, Martin, Ennis, Miller.
Post trade deadline candidates: Felton, Foye, one of Jennings/Blake, one of Mayo/Bayless, Bennett, Nicholson, Wallace, Kaman, Butler, Webster.
I've already made the case for Miller. The only other somewhat interesting name on this list, is Bullock. But after the Simmons signing, the final wing should be a more proven commodity, specifically in terms of three-point shooting.
I could see them having a surprise veteran at camp, like Delfino or Garcia, to compete with Fredette. We've seen this in the past with Simmons and Maggette. Nobody knew they were coming until media day.
Bayless would be a decent addition IMO. He's probably going to be almost impossible to pick up given his 3 million salary, but would love him as 12-13 man for shooting purposes...He's a UFA agent next year.
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They might do what they did before when they brought in Sam Young and Cory Meggette. They never leave any stone unturned.
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Spurtacular
Between d-league last year and the summer league, the Spurs probably feel like the development period is over. The training wheels have to come off. Anderson may or may not crack the rotation. He may or may not perform well. But I just don't think it's too likely he'll go back to the d-league. And I especially doubt he'll go back to the d-league to start the season. If he did go back, it would be for the sake of getting reps in the middle of the season.
If he continues to totally suck while in the NBA then he will. The best case study for him is probably Cory Joseph right now. And Cory still spent time in Austin during his second year.
That being said, if Kyle comes out and wins rotation minutes then that changes the whole strategy. But if hes rotting on the bench then I would think it likely that makes a number of quickie runs to Austin throughout the year.
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Darkwaters
If he continues to totally suck while in the NBA then he will. The best case study for him is probably Cory Joseph right now. And Cory still spent time in Austin during his second year.
That being said, if Kyle comes out and wins rotation minutes then that changes the whole strategy. But if hes rotting on the bench then I would think it likely that makes a number of quickie runs to Austin throughout the year.
It was at Joseph's request that he went to the d-league. And Anderson can play multiple positions, which will make him more available to minutes. And I don't see him totally sucking. Sucking by some people's standards, maybe. Maybe, he'll only shoot between 37 and 41 percent. But he'll likely do enough to be valuable at times. I don't think he'll be a DNP machine that Austin will be an option. JMO.
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TD 21
Before camp/Out of camp candidates: P. Jones, Bullock, Granger, Martin, Ennis, Miller.
Post trade deadline candidates: Felton, Foye, one of Jennings/Blake, one of Mayo/Bayless, Bennett, Nicholson, Wallace, Kaman, Butler, Webster.
I've already made the case for Miller. The only other somewhat interesting name on this list, is Bullock. But after the Simmons signing, the final wing should be a more proven commodity, specifically in terms of three-point shooting.
I could see them having a surprise veteran at camp, like Delfino or Garcia, to compete with Fredette. We've seen this in the past with Simmons and Maggette. Nobody knew they were coming until media day.
I'm interested in Bullock too, but I don't see how he fits this roster. Maybe next year.
And as for Kyle, his task this year is to play about 10 good minutes a game and continue to improve. I think he will do both.
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playjimmer
Jimmer. He is our 15th man.
another one of these accounts eh..... wonder what happened to the ellipses-heavy playblair account
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Proxy
another one of these accounts eh..... wonder what happened to the ellipses-heavy playblair account
Blair was a good player though.
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Spurtacular
Blair was a good player though.
that's subjective
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Proxy
that's subjective
Not really. Blair shot over 50 percent all four years as a Spur and cleaned up on the boards. Other than that, I'm not saying he was so great though.
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steeledl
I don't think he is good enough to play this year and the Spurs would rather try to develop his game in the d league than have him sitting as the 12th guy on the bench. I think he will be back and forth depending on injuries and what not....
he's the backup 3, we only have one, so his minutes are pretty much guaranteed. I'm sure pop will try to develop a new bench rotation that is reliable and makes sense.
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Spurtacular
Not really. Blair shot over 50 percent all four years as a Spur and cleaned up on the boards. Other than that, I'm not saying he was so great though.
probably wouldn't have lost his starting spot to McDyess two playoff runs in a row if he was considered a "good" player.
Not interested in discussing semantics here. I'd just never call Whataburger Blair a "good" player.
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Blair was a good pickup for a 37th pick, and an above average contributor his first 2 years.
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By Blair's fourth year, he had developed a great floater shot. On most any other team he would've been a rotation player. He requested to leave SA b/c of minutes. That was a mistake, imo. He probably will have shortened his career and traded away some rings.
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Spurtacular
By Blair's fourth year, he had developed a great floater shot. On most any other team he would've been a rotation player. He requested to leave SA b/c of minutes. That was a mistake, imo. He probably will have shortened his career and traded away some rings.
He did play well for Dallas, but unfortunately he has next to zero contribution to the Wizards. Careers is now on the skids and is very near being kicked out of the NBA.
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ceperez
He did play well for Dallas, but unfortunately he has next to zero contribution to the Wizards. Careers is now on the skids and is very near being kicked out of the NBA.
It's better to shine in limited minutes than to play bad in an increased role. Players that are considered a value will always be able to sign. And with Blair's knee, he already knows that too many minutes will end his career too soon.
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steeledl
Roster is set for the most part. Only thing that would interest me is getting a veteran wing player so we can send anderson to Austin .
Considering KA played in Austin last season, and the amount of plays in SL called for him specifically, I highly doubt PATFO has any intentions to send him back down.
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Mutombo and Hakeem can still play, hahahahaha
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Roster is set. Bonner will spend most of the time on bench. Jimmer probably will make roster and he`d decided wheather he wants to sit most games or play in europe. Same for Reggie. Boban and Anderson will see some PT in Austin.
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Anderson will play, Spurs need him. Wing rotation is thin as it is, and Pop will not overplay guys. Like Raven said, he is also very versatile and played several positions in SL. If anything, Pop and RC not picking up a vet wing and going with Simmons is a sign that they are counting on Anderson. Them picking up Jimmer for a potential 15th spot and that Bonner signing all give signs that they are confident Simmons/Anderson will fill out the wing rotation good enough for what the team needs.
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apalisoc_9
Bayless would be a decent addition IMO. He's probably going to be almost impossible to pick up given his 3 million salary, but would love him as 12-13 man for shooting purposes...He's a UFA agent next year.
He's more scorer than shooter and they don't need another undersized guard, that is sub par defensively and can't run an offense.
If he were to be bought out, he'd be signed for a prorated portion of the veteran's minimum though, so it wouldn't be an issue financially.
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RuffnReadyOzStyle
I'm interested in Bullock too, but I don't see how he fits this roster. Maybe next year.
And as for Kyle, his task this year is to play about 10 good minutes a game and continue to improve. I think he will do both.
Yeah, if Ginobili unexpectedly returns and one of Anderson or Simmons establish themselves as rotation players, then they can take a chance on someone unestablished.
Two more names to add to the "post trade deadline candidates", are M. Williams and Novak.
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TD 21
He's more scorer than shooter and they don't need another undersized guard, that is sub par defensively and can't run an offense.
If he were to be bought out, he'd be signed for a prorated portion of the veteran's minimum though, so it wouldn't be an issue financially.
Yeah, if Ginobili unexpectedly returns and one of Anderson or Simmons establish themselves as rotation players, then they can take a chance on someone unestablished.
Two more names to add to the "post trade deadline candidates", are M. Williams and Novak.
As I said a 12-13 role would be ideal for bayless..
Not that I would try my hardest to get him given his limitations.
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apalisoc_9
As I said a 12-13 role would be ideal for bayless..
Not that I would try my hardest to get him given his limitations.
He probably wouldn't accept it and between Mills, McCallum and I doubt he lasts the season, but for now, Fredette, they have three players who are all somewhat similar to him. McCallum, in particular, in style, stature and role on this team.
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Spurtacular
It was at Joseph's request that he went to the d-league. And Anderson can play multiple positions, which will make him more available to minutes. And I don't see him totally sucking. Sucking by some people's standards, maybe. Maybe, he'll only shoot between 37 and 41 percent. But he'll likely do enough to be valuable at times. I don't think he'll be a DNP machine that Austin will be an option. JMO.
He won't be asked to facilitate a whole lot of the offense for the Spurs. He'll be asked to be a spot up shooter much of the time. And shooting 37 to 41 percent will pretty much completely defeat the purpose of playing him as a spot up shooter since he'll be sucking at it.
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Darkwaters
He won't be asked to facilitate a whole lot of the offense for the Spurs. He'll be asked to be a spot up shooter much of the time. And shooting 37 to 41 percent will pretty much completely defeat the purpose of playing him as a spot up shooter since he'll be sucking at it.
Terrible analysis.
Anderson's primary purpose is not to be a spot up shooter. The Spurs may as well cut him now if that were the case; cos he'll never be that great of a shooter. Anderson is a playmaker forward with guard skills.
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Spurtacular
Terrible analysis.
Anderson's primary purpose is not to be a spot up shooter. The Spurs may as well cut him now if that were the case; cos he'll never be that great of a shooter. Anderson is a playmaker forward with guard skills.
:lol Says the guy touting Jimmer Fredette as a world-moving signing
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Darkwaters
:lol Says the guy touting Jimmer Fredette as a world-moving signing
Anderson shot 35.9 percent from twos and 27.3 percent from threes in his rookie season. Even if a player isn't purely a spot-up type of player, shouldn't he have to hit percentage benchmarks or spot-up a certain percent of the time to be called a spot-up shooter?
Let me ask, would you call Diaw a spot-up shooter? Why?
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Darkwaters
:lol Says the guy touting Jimmer Fredette as a world-moving signing
Jimmer is a good guy to stick in if we're down 3 on the last play of the game, given TD/LMA/Manu are on the pine for the DNP-Old variety.
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Spurtacular
Anderson shot 35.9 percent from twos and 27.3 percent from threes in his rookie season. Even if a player isn't purely a spot-up type of player, shouldn't he have to hit percentage benchmarks or spot-up a certain percent of the time to be called a spot-up shooter?
I completely agree. Hes been terrible as a shooter which has totally limited his usefulness and why he didn't get minutes last year. This is largely because they haven't wanted to use him as a facilitator. He hasn't proven to be any good at it at the NBA level (or even the Summer League level as we saw - with the singular exception of the Championship game). Besides - why would you want Anderson facilitating the offense when the second unit has Ginobili and Diaw? That makes no sense.
Anderson is going to have to get an at least passable spot-up game going in order to be relevant for the time being. Otherwise I don't know why you'd give the ball to a D-League standout when you have Ginobili the former 6th Man of the Year and All-Star available to do those duties. How do they fit together on the floor?
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UNT Eagles 2016
Jimmer is a good guy to stick in if we're down 3 on the last play of the game, given TD/LMA/Manu are on the pine for the DNP-Old variety.
Hes an intriguing camp invite. Nothing more.
If he wants to be more he'll have to earn it.
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Darkwaters
I completely agree. Hes been terrible as a shooter which has totally limited his usefulness and why he didn't get minutes last year. This is largely because they haven't wanted to use him as a facilitator. He hasn't proven to be any good at it at the NBA level (or even the Summer League level as we saw - with the singular exception of the Championship game). Besides - why would you want Anderson facilitating the offense when the second unit has Ginobili and Diaw? That makes no sense.
Anderson is going to have to get an at least passable spot-up game going in order to be relevant for the time being. Otherwise I don't know why you'd give the ball to a D-League standout when you have Ginobili the former 6th Man of the Year and All-Star available to do those duties. How do they fit together on the floor?
I think we're on the same page. Anderson does need to shoot better for sure. And he is not likely to be a great facilitator simply because he is slow and lacks strength. However, that is a part of what ultimately makes him effective. So, he'll need to improve his strength, quickness, confidence, etc to be able to make plays. Because I doubt he's gonna be good enough to just shoot jump shots when they come his way. I see him more as a swiss army knife type of player. You want him to do a little bit of everything.