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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
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Originally Posted by
TheSanityAnnex
1. Yes
Then you'll agree it was stupid for you to act like it's not possible.
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2. Already answered
Cop out duly noted.
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
Then you'll agree it was stupid for you to act like it's not possible.
disagree. For other people surely possible, not possible with your most epic log of spurstalk time. I simply just don't believe you that is all, no hard feelings.
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Cop out duly noted.
being consistent is not a cop out.
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
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Originally Posted by
TheSanityAnnex
disagree. For other people surely possible, not possible with your most epic log of spurstalk time. I simply just don't believe you that is all, no hard feelings.
Repeated hard feelings ad hominem duly noted.
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being consistent is not a cop out.
You consistently cop out, I'll give you that.
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
Repeated hard feelings ad hominem duly noted.
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
Jesus, when did you get so stupid? Did you finally shoot yourself in the head?
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
It seemed to be an especially stupid question for him; so much so that I voiced concern for his health.
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
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Originally Posted by
Splits
It's completely mis-characterizing the WaPo article. The lady who handed over the "old server" said the data was migrated to the new server in 2013 and then her company wiped it. Newsmax is making it sound like Hillary ordered the machine wiped in order to cover something up. Which is why the titles of the actual news articles vs the hackjob article are so different.
yep
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Regardless, I hope they find thousands of top secret emails were passing through her server, she won't be able to survive that.
No, she wouldn't. Wouldn't break my heart if that happened, but the alternative is Biden. Not sure I like that much better.
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
:lmao raising Al Gores dead corpse as a backup plan :lmao :lol
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
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Hillary has bigger problems to worry
about that running for president. I bet Biden or someone else jumps in soon, sanders is too much of a fringe candidate and can't win in a country that is seeing a massive shift in its views to conservatism. Maybe if sanders was fringe right wing but not in America as a socialist.
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
18 U.S.C. 1924 - UNAUTHORIZED REMOVAL AND RETENTION OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS OR MATERIAL
(a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
(b) For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).
(c) In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security
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18 U.S.C. 793
United States Code, 2009 Edition
Title 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 37 - ESPIONAGE AND CENSORSHIP
Sec. 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
From the U.S. Government Printing Office, www.gpo.gov
§793. Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation, goes upon, enters, flies over, or otherwise obtains information concerning any vessel, aircraft, work of defense, navy yard, naval station, submarine base, fueling station, fort, battery, torpedo station, dockyard, canal, railroad, arsenal, camp, factory, mine, telegraph, telephone, wireless, or signal station, building, office, research laboratory or station or other place connected with the national defense owned or constructed, or in progress of construction by the United States or under the control of the United States, or of any of its officers, departments, or agencies, or within the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States, or any place in which any vessel, aircraft, arms, munitions, or other materials or instruments for use in time of war are being made, prepared, repaired, stored, or are the subject of research or development, under any contract or agreement with the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or with any person on behalf of the United States, or otherwise on behalf of the United States, or any prohibited place so designated by the President by proclamation in time of war or in case of national emergency in which anything for the use of the Army, Navy, or Air Force is being prepared or constructed or stored, information as to which prohibited place the President has determined would be prejudicial to the national defense; or
(b) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, and with like intent or reason to believe, copies, takes, makes, or obtains, or attempts to copy, take, make, or obtain, any sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, document, writing, or note of anything connected with the national defense; or
(c) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or
(d) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.
(h)(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States, irrespective of any provision of State law, any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, from any foreign government, or any faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States, as the result of such violation. For the purposes of this subsection, the term “State” includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.
(2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1) of this subsection.
(3) The provisions of subsections (b), (c), and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853(b), (c), and (e)–(p)) shall apply to—
(A) property subject to forfeiture under this subsection;
(B) any seizure or disposition of such property; and
(C) any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property,
if not inconsistent with this subsection.
(4) Notwithstanding section 524(c) of title 28, there shall be deposited in the Crime Victims Fund in the Treasury all amounts from the forfeiture of property under this subsection remaining after the payment of expenses for forfeiture and sale authorized by law.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 736; Sept. 23, 1950, ch. 1024, title I, §18, 64 Stat. 1003; Pub. L. 99–399, title XIII, §1306(a), Aug. 27, 1986, 100 Stat. 898; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147; Pub. L. 103–359, title VIII, §804(b)(1), Oct. 14, 1994, 108 Stat. 3440; Pub. L. 104–294, title VI, §607(b), Oct. 11, 1996, 110 Stat. 3511.)
Historical and Revision Notes
Based on sections 31 and 36 of title 50, U.S.C., 1940 ed., War and National Defense (June 15, 1917, ch. 30, title I, §§1, 6, 40 Stat. 217, 219; Mar. 28, 1940, ch. 72, §1, 54 Stat. 79).
Section consolidated sections 31 and 36 of title 50, U.S.C., 1940 ed., War and National Defense.
Words “departments or agencies” were inserted twice in conformity with definitive section 6 of this title to eliminate any possible ambiguity as to scope of section.
The words “or induces or aids another” were omitted wherever occurring as unnecessary in view of definition of “principal” in section 2 of this title.
Mandatory punishment provision was rephrased in the alternative.
Minor changes were made in phraseology.
Amendments
1996—Subsec. (h)(1). Pub. L. 104–294 inserted at end “For the purposes of this subsection, the term ‘State’ includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.”
1994—Pub. L. 103–322 substituted “fined under this title” for “fined not more than $10,000” in undesignated par. after subsec. (f).
Subsec. (h)(3). Pub. L. 103–359 substituted “(p)” for “(o)” in two places.
1986—Subsec. (h). Pub. L. 99–399 added subsec. (h).
1950—Act Sept. 23, 1950, divided section into subdivisions, inserted laboratories and stations, and places where material or instruments for use in time of war are the subject of research or development to the list of facilities and places to which subsection (a) applies, made subsection (d) applicable only in cases in which possession, access, or control is lawful, added subsection (e) to take care of cases in which possession, access, or control, is unlawful, made subsection (f) applicable to instruments and appliances, as well as to documents, records, etc., and provided by subsection (g) a separate penalty for conspiracy to violate any provisions of this section.
Indictment for Violating This Section; Limitation Period
Limitation period in connection with indictments for violating this section, see note set out under section 792 of this title.
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
So are you saying Hillary broke these laws?
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
So are you saying Hillary did broke these laws?
break
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
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Originally Posted by
Ignignokt
break
Thanks
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
We'll find out when the investigation is complete.
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
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Originally Posted by
TheSanityAnnex
We'll find out when the investigation is complete.
At this point with everything you know, do you think she broke the laws you posted?
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
At this point with everything you know, do you think she broke the laws you posted?
I hope so.
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
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TheSanityAnnex
I hope so.
That wasn't the question.
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
No one from the FBI has briefed me on their findings. Why is the concept of an ongoing investigation so difficult for you to grasp.
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
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Originally Posted by
TheSanityAnnex
No one from the FBI has briefed me on their findings. Why is the concept of an ongoing investigation so difficult for you to grasp.
You're the one posting laws you think are applicable here. Why would you post laws you don't think were broken?
Jesus, when did you become afraid to express an opinion? This is Darrin level snarkiness.
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
You're the one posting laws you think are applicable here. Why would you post laws you don't think were broken?
Jesus, when did you become afraid to express an opinion? This is Darrin level snarkiness.
Highly ironic coming from you, David. You never express any takes of your own, you just nitpick everyone else's to death with your 500 Questions schtick.
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Clipper Nation
Highly ironic coming from you, David. You never express any takes of your own, you just nitpick everyone else's to death with your 500 Questions schtick.
Highly ironic coming from you, David. You never express any takes of your own, you steal everyone else's shticks and drive them to death.
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
I doubt she broke any laws, but quite frankly, I don't care.
She handles everything so poorly including this situation. I'm tired of it.
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
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DMX7
She handles everything so poorly including this situation. I'm tired of it.
This makes her Republican.
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Re: Hillary hands over drives - after they've been professionally wiped clean!
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
You're the one posting laws you think are applicable here. Why would you post laws you don't think were broken?
Jesus, when did you become afraid to express an opinion? This is Darrin level snarkiness.
You repeatedly asked what laws could have been broken, you now have laws that could have been broken.