I didn't state any reservations. What part of what I wrote do you disagree with...Be specific.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
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I didn't state any reservations. What part of what I wrote do you disagree with...Be specific.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
So you have no reservations about this deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
Great. What are you trying to argue then?
I can't agree or disagree with quotes given with no context -- as long as the quote is accurate, they are just someones words.Quote:
What part of what I wrote do you disagree with...Be specific.
Germany was never a "rogue nation"Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurminator
Sounds peachy. I guess history will be the judge.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
The context is the Iran deal. What part of what I wrote are you taking issue with? Do you think what I wrote applies to the Iran deal or not? I answered two of your questions why won't you just give an answer to my question. Or better yet just say what you think about the Iran deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I will ask you again, Darrin -- given your stated reservations, what would you have done differently in an agreement with Iran?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Actually you didn't answer my question at all and I already said what I think about the Iran deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
I will ask you again, since you have no stated reservations, what would you have done differently in an agreement with Iran?
I can only assume nothing if you can't even state a reservation and just parrot quotes with no context.
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AMEN!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by spurtech09
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
N Korea failed because they pulled out of the agreement unilaterally.Quote:
Pyongyang acted after declaring it would leave six-party talks on completing nuclear disarmament in the country and reactivate a plant that makes bomb-grade plutonium in response to a UN rebuke over its launching of a long-range rocket.
"(North Korea) has today informed IAEA inspectors in the Yongbyon facility that it is immediately ceasing all cooperation with the IAEA," Marc Vidricaire, a UN spokesman, said in a statement.
It's typical neocon stupidity to conflate the two.
Well, he's got the votes. Working on a filibuster total for the Senate debate now.
Neither the DPRK nor the US lived up to the terms of their framework.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
See, it's a *deal.* There are examples of other *deals* that have not worked out. Therefore, all *deals* are bad. Because *deal* = bad. Simple math. Details are unnecessary.
Did you guys lose your shit over the SALT talks too?
Did you call for Reagan's impeachment when he gave missiles to the radical Muslim Iranians?
How do you figure that? The UN security council condemned a launch. That is what caused the renege.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I'm talking about the Clinton era framework/bribery agreement. They missed a bunch of deadlines for disclosure and inspections and we skipped a bunch of grain shipments and it all just went away.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
Color me surprised. I thought he wouldn't be able to round up the votes.
Yeah, because the United States never funds terrorism to further our own interestsQuote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
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I would have to look into that. I do think the Clinton administration is the most overrated 20th century presidency.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Color me un-surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Coming from a guy who thinks climate scientists are still divided on an issue in which they are united, including the entire world population outside of 20% of the knuckle-dragging right-wing crazy party of the USA. Considering July 2015 was the hottest month on record in human history and the obvious affects we are seeing from global warming such as the unprecedented drought and raging wild fires in Cali. But yeah, your "opinion" is so valued on this topic. We just need some more research! Can't actually do anything about the massive warming of the planet until "MOAR RESEARCH" is done.
Idiot.
3 more Senate Democrats back Iran deal
Three more Democratic senators announced their endorsement of the Iran nuclear pact today, creating a 41-vote firewall of support, but it remains unclear if Democrats will use their numbers to filibuster and block a vote on a GOP-backed resolution of disapproval.
Ron Wyden of Oregon, Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut and Gary Peters of Michigan announced they will back the deal. President Obama has all but locked up support to sustain a veto of the disapproval resolution in both the House and Senate, but the Democratic senators now backing the president could deny opponents the 60-vote threshold needed to advance the measure to the White House.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-iran-obama-support-20150908-story.html
Obama just kicked all y'all stinky redneck asses, AGAIN!
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Why is splits ranting about AGW in this thread :lol
Republican Lawrence Wilkerson on Dick Cheney: 'This is a man who's lost his mind'
Chris Hayes included a Fox News clip where Chris Wallace reminded a willful history revising Dick Cheney that during the Bush/Cheney administration Iran went from 0 to 5,000 centrifuges. Wallace suggested that Cheney left a mess for the Obama administration.
Republican Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, chief of staff to Secretary of State General Colin Powell, was introduced. (Colin Powell endorsed the Iran Nuclear agreement this weekend.) Chris Hayes asked Wilkerson about Cheney's apocalyptic warning about the Iran deal. Lawrence Wilkerson did not mince words.
"I have been searching for a single word that would describe Dick Cheney," Wilkerson said. "And I am afraid the only one that I can think of is 'insanity'. It's a deliberate, it's a methodical, it's a lucid, often lucid insanity. But it is insanity nonetheless. He can't recognize reality. He can't recognize the truth. The good thing Chris, for this country is that Independents, Republicans, and Democrats wish he would just go away now. He has almost no influence. You saw the influence he has virtually by numbers. Those at the AEI today that listened to his speech, that's about it."
Dick Cheney's speech at AEI was interrupted by a Code Pink protester.
Lawrence Wilkerson pointed out that Dick Cheney was once a brilliant strategist. He said Cheney changed after nine eleven. "All of a sudden he's turned into this person who cannot recognize reality," Wilkerson said. "I can't explain it. Maybe its physiological. Maybe it's biological. Maybe 9/11 did something to him. ... He is simply devoid of reason and he doesn't recognize reality anymore."
Wilkerson went on to make the point that Dick Cheney was using the same fear-mongering technique used by Joseph McCarty.
At the end Wilkerson makes the Defense Industrial Complex / Dick Cheney association.
"Cheney is a millionaire now," Wilkerson said. "So maybe I am assuming his insanity and maybe I am wrong. Maybe he sees this as a way, as a route to success and it turned out to be profitable. His personal finances now are quite well established. He is a multi-millionaire.
This is a man who in 1998, Chris, said most forcefully as CEO of Halliburton, that sanctions were not working, that they wouldn't work unless they were comprehensive and international. And he wanted to do deals with Iran. And so he was bashing sanctions up one wall and down the other. This is a man who's lost his mind."
Any more question about Dick Cheney or his motives?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/0...d?detail=email
Senate just killed the vote on the veto. Barry kickin ass
and dickhead Cheney, GFY
Thanks Barry.
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