Game Thread #5: Spurs @ Wizards -- Wed. (11/4) - 6:00 PM CST (2:00 AM Riga Time)

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Originally Posted by da_suns_fan

Not as sad as that D!

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The game was over when Beal was able to square up without anyone in the vicinity. He used LMA's momentum to elude him w/ an escape dribble. That's a play the Hawks run for Korver.....the Wizards played the Hawks in the 2nd last year so I'm pretty sure Wittman stole that play from Bud.

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Originally Posted by sasaint

Yeah, t's kind of like the theory vs. the reality. We knew the season would be a work in progress, but watching a sloppy 20 TO game is a hard reality to swallow. :wow

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This one stings because they really threw this game away, quite literally along with the ball.

LaHasNo Brakeage?

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

The game was over when Beal was able to square up without anyone in the vicinity. He used LMA's momentum to elude him w/ an escape dribble. That's a play the Hawks run for Korver.....the Wizards played the Hawks in the 2nd last year so I'm pretty sure Wittman stole that play from Bud.

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Don't try explaining to him. He thought Dudley was better than Carmelo.

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Originally Posted by da_suns_fan

Lucky us!

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^^ Bitter that he got turned down by the prom queen.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

The game was over when Beal was able to square up without anyone in the vicinity. He used LMA's momentum to elude him w/ an escape dribble. That's a play the Hawks run for Korver.....the Wizards played the Hawks in the 2nd last year so I'm pretty sure Wittman stole that play from Bud.

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didn't realize bud invented the fake. Impressive.

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Originally Posted by Gibbz

My sides

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Can you actually shoot? I'd bet a lot of the posters here couldn't even hit the rim in an open gym

Again, can you actually shoot? Since you don't want to answer that question, I'll assume you can't.

It's gonna be a long year on ST if all we are going to see here is folks choosing up sides on which ONE player lost the game. I saw more than one player make a defensive error or miss a critical shot in the 4th. While we can have differences of opinion about the level of play on players in game grades, I hate to see us getting into the vicious cycle of scapegoating one player in every loss.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

This one stings because they really threw this game away, quite literally along with the ball.

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Yeah, I think we have the same take. Give Manu, Rasual and Kyle (and maybe Danny) a "pass" and rip everybody else.

At least Danny may have found the road back to confidently stroking his 3.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

^^ Bitter that he got turned down by the prom queen.

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LaCapSpace Wastage?

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Lamarcus for sure had a bad game. He won the Celtics game for us down the stretch. It was a team effort of course, but he rose to the occasion. He was lost here all game. Priority no. 1, we have to get him right and going on. Then work on everyone else, seriously.

Kawhi is ready for his role, but Lamarcus is lost among all the shuffle. Many other guys played terrible. Even as bad as they were they had a shot to win this if they had cleaned up their mistakes. No need to rush this.

Lamarcus and Kawhi both were getting doubled pretty badly, and there were no cutters or others looking for a pass. Their execution was horrible, just horrible.

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Nice intelligent post when most the others are busy finger pointing and cliff jumping. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

I never said he was a pure shooter.

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You didn't, but I was responding to you saying that Kawhi hits most of his shots in warmups. I was just saying that most people know that NBA players (guards/small forwards especially) can hit most of their shots in warm ups. It doesn't mean they are good/great shooters.

btw, I've seen some good filipino shooters, but unfortunately some of those guys got screwed with lack of height and athleticism.

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Originally Posted by sasaint

Not everybody was bad - mostly just wildly inconsistent. Some good, some VERY bad. But Manu was generally good, Butler was surprisingly good, playing himself into more minutes. And Kyle was good in short minutes.

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Silver linings 😀

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Originally Posted by Ice009

You didn't, but I was responding to you saying that Kawhi hits most of his shots in warmups. I was just saying that most people know that NBA players (guards/small forwards) can hit most of their shots in warm ups. It doesn't mean they are good/great shooters.

btw, I've seen some good filipino shooters, but unfortunately some of those guys got screwed with lack of height and athleticism.

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No, I was just saying that it naturally becomes harder when you're shooting it with the game on the line. Everybody chokes, Kawhi and LMA did but to call him mentally weak, a choker? OKC and Boston games, he was clutch in the 4th.

We have good shooters in our NT but we're still using the traditional way of bball which is driving and forcing to the lane, stupidly so since we dont have the size.

LaLostMah Footage!

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Originally Posted by sasaint

Kind of the opposite f a moral victory... A Moral Loss!

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Hopefully an attention to detail loss. Having an edge, knowing that nothing will be handed to you, might require some obvious mistakes. Frankly, sometimes we do get away with playing poorly.

Fucking. Turnovers.

20 TOs. Game.

Wow this Suns fan is really melting down, tbh.

Feels like 2007.

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Originally Posted by Ice009

Can you actually shoot? I'd bet a lot of the posters here couldn't even hit the rim in an open gym

Again, can you actually shoot? Since you don't want to answer that question, I'll assume you can't.

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Originally Posted by wildbill2u

It's gonna be a long year on ST if all we are going to see here is folks choosing up sides on which ONE player lost the game. I saw more than one player make a defensive error or miss a critical shot in the 4th. While we can have differences of opinion about the level of play on players in game grades, I hate to see us getting into the vicious cycle of scapegoating one player in every loss.

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At first, it was TP vs. Kawhi haters. Now it's "everyone's a bum except TD and Manu". It's ridiculous, really. Reading these posts, you'd think the NBA is a 16 game season like the NFL.

Too bad Danny didn't leap out on Beal while he was escape dribbling, there wasn't enough time to make another pass to Wall. It would have at least caused a pattern interruption in Beal's movement.

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

No, I was just saying that it naturally becomes harder when you're shooting it with the game on the line. Everybody chokes, Kawhi and LMA did but to call him mentally weak, a choker? OKC and Boston games, he was clutch in the 4th.

We have good shooters in our NT but we're still using the traditional way of bball which is driving and forcing to the lane, stupidly so since we dont have the size.

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I'm not using this game as the only example. I've seen Kawhi brick too many jumpers in other games deep in the 4th quarter. I'm not talking about game winners, just jumpers in general. I think it's mental with him and he tightens up when the pressure is higher. That's my opinion on it. I'd rather he try and get to the rim rather than take jump shots. I just don't see supreme confidence when he shoots it in the late stages of games. If you don't have confidence in your shot before you shoot it, then it has no chance of going in.

You are right about shots being tougher with the game on the line, but I don't care about someone missing the shot if they shoot it with confidence. I can live with that no problem. Stephen Jackson is a prime example of what I am talking about. When he was in his prime, he shot the ball with no fear. If he missed it, I was OK with it because I knew it wasn't missed because he was scared to shoot it. That's the kind of shooter I am and that's the kind of shooter I like to see. I just don't see that with Kawhi's shooting late in 4th quarters.

As for Filipino ball, you're kinda forced to play a certain way because of your lack of size. Being a good shooter is something a lot of the best Filipino players have in their arsenal out of necessity. It sucks that some of these NBA players are in the league mostly because of their great genes.

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Originally Posted by Gibbz

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Can you shoot a basketball? Can you hit the rim? Yes or no?

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Originally Posted by Budkin

20 TOs. Game.

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and almost all of them were live-ball turnovers