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Players better than KA

Austin Daye #5
Doc Rivers Jr #25
Anthony Tolliver #whocares
the Coyote #2!

Plus minus Chinook plus minus

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Originally Posted by Mikeanaro

This must be the largest meltdown in ST history.

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God no. Did you ever see xmas? His meltdown lasted several months and often involved his wife. It was unreal.

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

God no. Did you ever see xmas? His meltdown lasted several months and often involved his wife. It was unreal.

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Lol, where is that old man? he was dangerous too agreed, tholdren has potential with some hard work he could be at the top.

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Originally Posted by Mikeanaro

Lol, where is that old man? he was dangerous too agreed, tholdren has potential with some hard work he could be at the top.

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He got the banhammer after numerous warnings, including threatening to sue kori for stating that he would be banned for illicit behavior. Not the sharpest tool in the shed.

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

He got the banhammer after numerous warnings, including threatening to sue kori for stating that he would be banned for illicit behavior. Not the sharpest tool in the shed.

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Now I remember, I think he was bitching about ST on other forum, gonna miss him :lmao.

Holmes better player and better game than Noel.... says plus minus data and Chinook

MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	+/-	PTS
19	4/9	0-0	0-0	2	5	7	1	3	1	1	1	-7	8

BENCH	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	+/-	PTS
Richaun Holmes, PF	8	1-1	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	2	0	0	1	0	+7	2

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Originally Posted by tholdren

Holmes better player and better game than Noel.... says plus minus data and Chinook

MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	+/-	PTS
19	4/9	0-0	0-0	2	5	7	1	3	1	1	1	-7	8

BENCH	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	+/-	PTS
Richaun Holmes, PF	8	1-1	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	2	0	0	1	0	+7	2

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Did you watch this game? I agree, unless you watch the game plus/minus is dumb to form individual player conclusions. But if you do watch it's a decent stat to corroborate the eye test. The eye test is when you watch the game

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Geez this stupid shit is still going on? Fuck man, let it go.

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Originally Posted by phxspurfan

I won't lie, I was at the home opener and had to explain to my uncle why KA made the team. "Because he's a skinnier Boris Diaw."

KA really doesn't belong in the NBA.

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Cos he's a first round pick; and teams don't tend to give up on first round picks in year two. Plus he's really young and had a good showing in summer league. Maybe KA's days with the Spurs are numbered; but it's conventional logic that he's with the team right now.

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Originally Posted by SupremeGuy

Geez this stupid shit is still going on? Fuck man, let it go.

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Great idea

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Cos he's a first round pick; and teams don't tend to give up on first round picks in year two. Plus he's really young and had a good showing in summer league. Maybe KA's days with the Spurs are numbered; but it's conventional logic that he's with the team right now.

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He's played very little, but done ok:
He has been a positive player overall with an O rating at 97 and D rating at 85 = +12.2 and that includes some garbage time action where guys don't even try, they just run the clock and that is it.
http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/203937/stats/advanced/

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

He's played very little, but done ok:
He has been a positive player overall with an O rating at 97 and D rating at 85 = +12.2 and that includes some garbage time action where guys don't even try, they just run the clock and that is it.
http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/203937/stats/advanced/

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He has not done okay by the eyeball test. Had he done okay, Pop wouldn't have played pretty much a eight man rotation in games 1-5 of the season. That's unheard of for Pop.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

He has not done okay by the eyeball test. Had he done okay, Pop wouldn't have played pretty much a eight man rotation in games 1-5 of the season. That's unheard of for Pop.

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The eyeball test told me Jimmer could not play in the NBA.. if we are getting to that.

Stats are stats, he's been a positive when he's played. He's been better defensively than ppl expected, therefore teams have not gone on runs when he's playing. He's made sound decisions with the ball, not turning it over and making the right pass.

He made a mistake 1 time and got benched bc he's young and has to learn sometime. The starters don't have chemistry of their own and are making a lot of mistakes of their own. Its the reason why Pop has been tightening things, the more guys you introduce, the more guys that are in variables for your main guys to get used to.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

The eyeball test told me Jimmer could not play in the NBA.. if we are getting to that.

Stats are stats, he's been a positive when he's played. He's been better defensively than ppl expected, therefore teams have not gone on runs when he's playing. He's made sound decisions with the ball, not turning it over and making the right pass.

He made a mistake 1 time and got benched bc he's young and has to learn sometime. The starters don't have chemistry of their own and are making a lot of mistakes of their own. Its the reason why Pop has been tightening things, the more guys you introduce, the more guys that are in variables for your main guys to get used to.

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KA has not been a positive. If that were true, he'd be getting the 12-20 mins a game that was slated for him.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

The eyeball test told me Jimmer could not play in the NBA.. if we are getting to that.
He's not good, but has played better than west. Find and bump the ka draft thread

Stats are stats, he's been a positive when he's played. He's been better defensively than ppl expected, therefore teams have not gone on runs when he's playing. He's made sound decisions with the ball, not turning it over and making the right pass.

He made a mistake 1 time and got benched bc he's young and has to learn sometime. The starters don't have chemistry of their own and are making a lot of mistakes of their own. Its the reason why Pop has been tightening things, the more guys you introduce, the more guys that are in variables for your main guys to get used to.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

KA has not been a positive. If that were true, he'd be getting the 12-20 mins a game that was slated for him.

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That was not slated for him that we know of. He would at most be getting 12 minutes bc Kawhi is playing a whole lot. The last game Kyle got injured in the first half and Butler was subbed in for him. I posted the link in another thread, but if you want to join the Kyle hate crew like others here, be my guest. That is on you, who you like and who you don't.

It is possible he will actually play more when Pop starts widening the rotation. Right now, the main guys have too many issues of their own to even start cutting their minutes down.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

That was not slated for him that we know of. He would at most be getting 12 minutes bc Kawhi is playing a whole lot. The last game Kyle got injured in the first half and Butler was subbed in for him. I posted the link in another thread, but if you want to join the Kyle hate crew like others here, be my guest. That is on you, who you like and who you don't.

It is possible he will actually play more when Pop starts widening the rotation. Right now, the main guys have too many issues of their own to even start cutting their minutes down.

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It was slated for someone. I guarantee you that Pop doesn't want to be using an eight man rotation to start the season. And Anderson is not limited to backing up Kawhi for minutes if he peforms either.

You should know by now that I'm not on anyone's crew. I call it how I see it. If KA starts to step up, I'll gladly acknowledge it.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

It was slated for someone. I guarantee you that Pop doesn't want to be using an eight man rotation to start the season. And Anderson is not limited to backing up Kawhi for minutes if he peforms either.

You should know by now that I'm not on anyone's crew. I call it how I see it. If KA starts to step up, I'll gladly acknowledge it.

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Well I don't know the crews here. I did know you were in the Jimmer love crew. lol It is childish to call fans as belonging to crews but that is the way ppl go here. Either way, what I said stands, who you like and who you don't is on you. If we are getting to the subjective eye test, then that is a personal preference.

The stats do show what I stated. If you say he's been a negative without anything to back it up but your subjective opinion, then that will get us nowhere in this little discussion.

Green is getting the minutes his tenure warrants for once, Kawhi is getting star minutes, and Ginobili looks as good as he has in years. There really isn't much reason to add another wing to the rotation. Anderson hasn't been perfect, but I definitely think he's been as good as Pop expected. He'll play more soon, but the bigger priority is getting the playoff rotation to figure out their offensive struggles. Once they're in sync, Pop can start figuring out how to plug the other guys in.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Well I don't know the crews here. I did know you were in the Jimmer love crew. lol It is childish to call fans as belonging to crews but that is the way ppl go here. Either way, what I said stands, who you like and who you don't is on you. If we are getting to the subjective eye test, then that is a personal preference.

The stats do show what I stated. If you say he's been a negative without anything to back it up but your subjective opinion, then that will get us nowhere in this little discussion.

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If you must go with the stats; Anderson has scored 8 points in 5 games (7 minutes per game) on 37.5 percent shooting. He has missed every three in a spread offense to boot. That's anemic at best. It's certainly not the stuff that rotation players are made of. I'm not slighting KA's potential. But you're arguing that Anderson is getting the job done; and that's just blatantly incorrect.