Plus Minus - Succeeds again

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Green is getting the minutes his tenure warrants for once, Kawhi is getting star minutes, and Ginobili looks as good as he has in years. There really isn't much reason to add another wing to the rotation. Anderson hasn't been perfect, but I definitely think he's been as good as Pop expected. He'll play more soon, but the bigger priority is getting the playoff rotation to figure out their offensive struggles. Once they're in sync, Pop can start figuring out how to plug the other guys in.

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Spurs aren't playing less guys cos Pop is getting guys in sync. He has only eight guys that he can clearly depend upon. I think seeing Rasual Butler of all people so drasically pushed forward on the bench rotation speaks to that reality.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Spurs aren't playing less guys cos Pop is getting guys in sync. He has only eight guys that he can clearly depend upon. I think seeing Rasual Butler of all people so drasically pushed forward on the bench rotation speaks to that reality.

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Of all people?

He did exactly the same thing last season on a playoff team. You can't act like he's Jimmer Fredette or something.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Of all people?

He did exactly the same thing last season on a playoff team. You can't act like he's Jimmer Fredette or something.

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An Eastern Conference pretender ain't nothing I concern myself with in semi-serious basketball discussion.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

An Eastern Conference pretender ain't nothing I concern myself with in semi-serious basketball discussion.

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So even if Jimmer makes the Knicks NBA franchise, it won't mean he can actually play in the "real" NBA?

OK.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

So even if Jimmer makes the Knicks NBA franchise, it won't mean he can actually play in the "real" NBA?

OK.

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You're twisting in the wind...

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

You're twisting in the wind...

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I will ask you directly -- So even if Jimmer makes the Knicks NBA franchise, it won't mean he can actually play in the "real" NBA?

Yes or no.

Or will you twist in the wind?

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Green is getting the minutes his tenure warrants for once, Kawhi is getting star minutes, and Ginobili looks as good as he has in years. There really isn't much reason to add another wing to the rotation. Anderson hasn't been perfect, but I definitely think he's been as good as Pop expected. He'll play more soon, but the bigger priority is getting the playoff rotation to figure out their offensive struggles. Once they're in sync, Pop can start figuring out how to plug the other guys in.

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:lol When was the last time Pop gave a shit about the playoff rotation 5 games into the season? The Spurs are notorious for getting off to slow starts and this year is no exception. They'll get it together eventually and I don't think Pop or the coaching staff are fretting it one bit. There's is very little wiggle room with the starting five anyways. When familiarity with one another takes affect and Green can knock down shots, the offense will get back on track.

West's playing time has been limited because he's playing like ass not because the offensive woes of the playoff rotation which was suppose to include him. Upside not withstanding, KA has been very underwhelming in his limited court time while Butler has been slightly better.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

I will ask you directly -- So even if Jimmer makes the Knicks NBA franchise, it won't mean he can actually play in the "real" NBA?

Yes or no.

Or will you twist in the wind?

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I don't answer lame off-topic questions posed by a troll.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

I don't answer lame off-topic questions posed by a troll.

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You're twisting in the wind.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

You're twisting in the wind.

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You kept quoting "real" when that's not what I even said, dink; that in addition to your trying to coerce an issue that wasn't even an issue til you stuck in your fat head.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Spurs aren't playing less guys cos Pop is getting guys in sync. He has only eight guys that he can clearly depend upon. I think seeing Rasual Butler of all people so drasically pushed forward on the bench rotation speaks to that reality.

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The regular season is about developing guys so you can "depend" on them when the playoffs come. If Pop didn't think he could use those guys in regular-season games, you'd see more movement from the FO. Butler is a good player -- hence why he easily beat Jimmer out for the 15th spot despite Fredette's guarantee. That a guy who's been a rotation player for years is getting a look over a second-year player is hardly a slight. And Butler has played really well in his limited minutes. If Pop were interested in playing more guys, Butler would get more minutes.

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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

:lol When was the last time Pop gave a shit about the playoff rotation 5 games into the season? The Spurs are notorious for getting off to slow starts and this year is no exception. They'll get it together eventually and Ibut there is very little wiggle room with the starting five.

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I think this is the most important regular season the team has had in a long time, maybe ever. Pop needs his top eight to be ironclad. He's essentially installing a new offensive philosophy, and everyone except Duncan and Mills is having some issues adjusting. They need to figure that out above everything.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

You kept quoting "real" when that's not what I even said, dink.

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The quotes are mine. Would you prefer I use your terminology? -- the end result isn't really different at all.

So even if Jimmer makes the Knicks NBA franchise, it won't mean he can actually play on an actual Western Conference contender?

Yes or no.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

The regular season is about developing guys so you can "depend" on them when the playoffs come. If Pop didn't think he could use those guys in regular-season games, you'd see more movement from the FO. Butler is a good player -- hence why he easily beat Jimmer out for the 15th spot despite Fredette's guarantee. That a guy who's been a rotation player for years is getting a look over a second-year player is hardly a slight. And Butler has played really well in his limited minutes. If Pop were interested in playing more guys, Butler would get more minutes.


I think this is the most important regular season the team has had in a long time, maybe ever. Pop needs his top eight to be ironclad. He's essentially installing a new offensive philosophy, and everyone except Duncan and Mills is having some issues adjusting. They need to figure that out above everything.

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Go ahead and take your lame shots. If Rasual Butler is a guy getting any serious burn in the playoffs, that's not good for the Spurs.

Pop has never been about getting his rotation "ironclad" in November. Maybe, its a bit more focused because of the advancement of WC teams; but I'm quite sure Pop would like to lessen the load on his core players. This goes against this traditionally deep benched team's standards of implementation.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Go ahead and take your lame shots. If Rasual Butler is a guy getting any serious burn in the playoffs, that's not good for the Spurs.

Pop has never been about getting his rotation "ironclad" in November. Maybe, its a bit more focused because of the advancement of WC teams; but I'm quite sure Pop would like to lessen the load on his core players. This goes against this traditionally deep benched team's standards of implementation.

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The rotation players have to learn how to play together before they can take time off. Jumping to any conclusions at this point is silly.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

The quotes are mine. Would you prefer I use your terminology? -- the end result isn't really different at all.

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What kind of idiot makes up quotes from himself? :lmao

IDIOT.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

What kind of idiot makes up quotes from himself? :lmao

IDIOT.

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Do you not understand the usage of quotation marks?

Is English not your first language?

Your stalling just means you're twisting in the wind about Jimmer.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

The rotation players have to learn how to play together before they can take time off. Jumping to any conclusions at this point is silly.

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They have to play heavy minutes in games 1-5 to learn to play with each other? That's spurious at best. Pop didn't abandon his deep benched philosophies because he's that worried about the starters gelling. You really think Pop wants to be putting these kinds of minutes on Duncan and Ginobili?

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

They have to play heavy minutes in games 1-5 to learn to play with each other?

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Yes.

It's pretty simple.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Do you not understand the usage of quotation marks?

Is English not your first language?

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I do understand them unlike you.

Rule 1: You don't quote something that was never said.

Unwritten rule: There's no need to quote yourself.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Yes.

It's pretty simple.

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Then, you don't understand coaching to mitigate the NBA grind.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

I do understand them unlike you.

Rule 1: You don't quote something that was never quoted.

Unwritten rule: There's no need to quote yourself.

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I wasn't quoting myself, genius.

Read and let me know if there is something you don't understand about this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes

I'm here to educate you.

But keep stalling about det Jimmer question. I know you're terrified to answer it.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Then, you don't understand coaching to mitigate the NBA grind.

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That comes after they learn how to play together.

Jimmer wouldn't help in any case.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

I wasn't quoting myself, genius.

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Uh huh.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

The quotes are mine.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Uh huh.

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"Quotes" being short for quotation marks, genius. Or scare quotes as described above.

Anything else you need help with, buttercup? Can you answer the Jimmer question now?

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Originally Posted by Chinook

I think this is the most important regular season the team has had in a long time, maybe ever. Pop needs his top eight to be ironclad. He's essentially installing a new offensive philosophy, and everyone except Duncan and Mills is having some issues adjusting. They need to figure that out above everything.

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The Spurs are notorious for getting off to slow starts and this year is no exception. They'll get it together eventually and I don't think Pop or the coaching staff are fretting it one bit. When familiarity with one another takes affect and Green can knock down shots, the offense won't look so bad, tbh.

West's playing time has been limited because he's playing like ass not because the offensive woes of the playoff rotation which was suppose to include him. He literally killed any thought of a Diaw/West back up combo 5 minutes into the first game of the season. Upside not withstanding, KA has been very underwhelming in his limited court time while Butler has been slightly better. These are the players that worry me the most because they're suppose to be a part of the playoff rotation and they look like anything but.