Re: Plus Minus - Succeeds again
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Originally Posted by
Spurtacular
They have to play heavy minutes in games 1-5 to learn to play with each other? That's spurious at best. Pop didn't abandon his deep benched philosophies because he's that worried about the starters gelling. You really think Pop wants to be putting these kinds of minutes on Duncan and Ginobili?
You need to define "heavy" for each player.
Manu is averaging fewer minutes than last year.
Duncan is averaging about 20 seconds more than last season.
Do you think they are going to break down at this rate?
Re: Plus Minus - Succeeds again
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
You need to define "heavy" for each player.
Manu is averaging fewer minutes than last year.
Duncan is averaging about 20 seconds more than last season.
Do you think they are going to break down at this rate?
No DNPs in that mix yet. Spurs won't continue at this rate and be rested for the playoffs. Still plenty of time to see how it plays out; but I'm not arguing whether or not the Spurs can sustain this in five games; rather, I'm saying that this could not have been the plan, and the bench's struggles are evident.
Re: Plus Minus - Succeeds again
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Originally Posted by
Spurtacular
No DNPs in that mix yet. Spurs won't continue at this rate and be rested for the playoffs. Still plenty of time to see how it plays out; but I'm not arguing whether or not the Spurs can sustain this in five games; rather, I'm saying that this could not have been the plan, and the bench's struggles are evident.
Why could it have not been the plan?
Starters and Manu are playing fewer minutes, Kawhi and Duncan's 20 seconds excluded.
Did you think the team play would be so fully developed that starters would be taking one game off by now?
Two?
Tell us what the Spurs planned.
Re: Plus Minus - Succeeds again
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
Why could it have not been the plan?
Starters and Manu are playing fewer minutes, Kawhi and Duncan's 20 seconds excluded.
Did you think the team play would be so fully developed that starters would be taking one game off by now?
Two?
Tell us what the Spurs planned.
Assuming Duncan and Ginobili play tonight; that'll be six straight games that they each played. How many times did that happen last season? For that matter, how many times last season did the Spurs use an eight man rotation in regular season games for five straight games? I've been watching the Spurs for long enough to know that these are unplanned/unwanted anomalies.
Re: Plus Minus - Succeeds again
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Originally Posted by
Spurtacular
Assuming Duncan and Ginobili play tonight; that'll be six straight games that they each played. How many times did that happen last season? For that matter, how many times last season did the Spurs use an eight man rotation in regular season games for five straight games? I've been watching the Spurs for long enough to know that these are unplanned/unwanted anomalies.
How many times last season did they integrate an All-Star starter into their offense?
If the price for that is play Manu and Duncan 6 out of 6 games to start the season instead of 5 out of 5, that seems to be a reasonable plan.
Does that seem reasonable to you?
Yes or no.
That was a direct question to you, so actually answer it this time.
Re: Plus Minus - Succeeds again
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
How many times last season did they integrate an All-Star starter into their offense?
If the price for that is play Manu and Duncan 6 out of 6 games to start the season instead of 5 out of 5, that seems to be a reasonable plan.
Does that seem reasonable to you?
Yes or no.
That was a direct question to you, so actually answer it this time.
You're kidding yourself if you think that the shortened rotation is about LMA. Name a person beyond the first eight that has stepped up.
Re: Plus Minus - Succeeds again
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Originally Posted by
Spurtacular
You're kidding yourself if you think that the shortened rotation is about LMA. Name a person beyond the first eight that has stepped up.
You didn't answer the question.
How many times last season did they integrate an All-Star starter into their offense?
If the price for that is play Manu and Duncan 6 out of 6 games to start the season instead of 5 out of 5, that seems to be a reasonable plan.
Does that seem reasonable to you?
Yes or no.
That was a direct question to you, so actually answer it this time.
Re: Plus Minus - Succeeds again
What's unreasonable to me is to expect the new team play to develop by having rotation players take games off early in the season.
That seems plain stupid.