As I've said before: the Warriors' defense is overrated

Being top 5 in steals doesn't mean you're a top defender. You may be good at certain facets of defense, but PGs typically get the most steals because they're playing the guy who handles the ball the most.

Similar to a guy who gets a ton of weak side blocks (Ibaka) not being a tremendous post defender.

The Cavs had them down 2-1 with LeBron + scrubs as key Cavs offensive players were out.
They are definitely beatable.

Props to the Wubs tho.
I think the coaching and culture created has been and is fantastic.

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Originally Posted by RD2191

Didn't read all that garbage. To beat the dubs you have to play them rough. Rough curry and klay up. Stick on them like fly on shit until they fold. A few dirty fouls may not be out of the question. Imo.

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Yup... playoff basketball going to be different. Spurs just need to review film of what Delevedova did to Curry during playoffs. Problem for Spurs is that we don't have the dirty player to guard Curry.

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Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016

Another thing, their bench is pretty putrid compared to ours. They're a legit 8 deep, but they suffer an enormous dropoff when Curry and Thompson go to the bench.

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Seriously, dude, what fucking game are you watching? The game was over three minutes into the second quarter, when they'd held the Pacers to 30 points and were up by over 20. The rest of the game was coasting.

Their starting back court averages 50 points per game. Curry's PER is 34.8. Let me say that again: Curry's PER is 34.8. If they had many teams' starters coming off the bench there'd be an enormous drop off.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Seriously, dude, what fucking game are you watching? The game was over three minutes into the second quarter, when they'd held the Pacers to 30 points and were up by over 20. The rest of the game was coasting.

Their starting back court averages 50 points per game. Curry's PER is 34.8. Let me say that again: Curry's PER is 34.8. If they had many teams' starters coming off the bench there'd be an enormous drop off.

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Pacers scored 60 points in the half but were still down 20 points!! That is serious reason to worry!!!!

Their defense is good enough to make it extremely hard to keep up with their offense.

emulating Pistons bad boys or Harper / Jordan / Pippen defensive perimeter and you win

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Originally Posted by ceperez

Yup... playoff basketball going to be different. Spurs just need to review film of what Delevedova did to Curry during playoffs. Problem for Spurs is that we don't have the dirty player to guard Curry.

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Really? I am pretty sure the French don't bathe every day.

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Originally Posted by AFMadison

I thinky we win long time

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Ha ha ha!!! How much we get for ten dollars?

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Originally Posted by ceperez

Yup... playoff basketball going to be different. Spurs just need to review film of what Delevedova did to Curry during playoffs. Problem for Spurs is that we don't have the dirty player to guard Curry.

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wish Mills got few of these "dirty chops" from his countryman..Warriors/Curry looked shook with the pestering physicality of Delly and Cavs early on in that series..I agree some controlled physicality will have to be brought against them..Trying to outshoot these guys is peak foolishness..

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Originally Posted by RD2191

Didn't read all that garbage. To beat the dubs you have to play them rough. Rough curry and klay up. Stick on them like fly on shit until they fold. A few dirty fouls may not be out of the question. Imo.

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By God, if I ever owned a basketball franchise- you'd be my first call.
I don't pay much, but the hours will be terrible...

Ban OP, terrible thread

The Warriors defense does have some catching up to do to their offense just like the Spurs offense has some catching up to do to their defense. Both the Warriors/Spurs haven't even peaked yet, the Spurs are winning by shutting down teams & the Warriors are winning w/ Curry emulating a video game on offense.

The Warriors look head & shoulders above better than anyone b/c their offense is so far ahead of the rest of the league (+7 ORtg) with Curry shooting the ball at an unprecedented efficiency. The Spurs defense needs to have a DRtg of 89 (hold teams to 85 ppg (-3 ppg) at the current pace) to match the Warriors offense.

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Originally Posted by 313

Ban OP, terrible thread

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OP is right, they're good, but as i've said before, they're so beatable, they've won some lucky games.

We just need to play our game, we'll get them.
Westy can rough some of the little bitches up too, give the splash bros a smash.

You beat the Warriors by playing better than them. That's the only way.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

...Both the Warriors/Spurs haven't even peaked yet...

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Spurs obviously haven't peaked, but I'm not sure about Golden Showers. They're playing like if this was a continuation of last season. Maybe they never stop peaking.

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Originally Posted by spursistan

wish Mills got few of these "dirty chops" from his countryman..Warriors/Curry looked shook with the pestering physicality of Delly and Cavs early on in that series..I agree some controlled physicality will have to be brought against them..Trying to outshoot these guys is peak foolishness..

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Dellavedova is 6'4", not really that big, but he just played really physical on Curry. Curry's performance was sub par. I don't think Green or Simmons have the savvy to play real dirty. Maybe Manu can, but he could be a step too slow at his age. Spurs need to sign up a bruiser who's only real role is to make Steph's life miserable.

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Originally Posted by DMC

You beat the Warriors by playing better than them. That's the only way.

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Wrong. you beat them by bringing the 'nasty'.

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Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016

They're a hell of a team, but tonight proved what I've been saying all along: they're definitely human on that end, and as Sean has pointed out many times, analytics are wayyyy overrated in basketball. Their D-Rating might be top 10, but they really don't pass the eye test. Tonight proved why analytics don't tell you the entire story about their defense. They get huge leads because the offense is just ridiculous, while the other team usually falls behind quickly leading to bad shots and turnovers as they hopelessly try to get back into ball games. This jacks up the Warriors' D-Rating big time and allows them to sort of take off some defensive possessions by bailing them out with bad offense. This also further ignites the Warriors' offense and transition game. Once the Pacers decided to play 12 minutes of disciplined ball, the Warriors' defense showed their true colors but their offense was still just good enough to keep them from blowing it barely. Still, Warriors gave up a whopping 123 points in regulation which would have Popovich pulling his very grey hairs out.


Bottom line is, it takes EXTREME discipline to beat the Warriors, on both ends, but they can be beaten. You have to stick to your gameplan and stay physical or else they will discourage you and you'll quickly find yourself down double digits. There is a very minimal margin for error for stupidity and unforced errors, bad shot selection and blown assignments -- but they can be beaten. You have to make guys like Iggy and Green volume shooters and hound Curry all game. You have to fight over every screen, no cheating under or it's 3 points every time. With Kawhi and Green on the perimeter and Timmy and Aldridge on the inside, it's possible -- it's obviously not going to be easy by any means -- but it is possible.

GSG :flag:

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Dude have you ever actually played a sport? Do you know how hard it is to keep a big lead?? I have been on both sides of a blowout while playing. When you have a huge lead, the game feels like it takes FOREVER to end. It's easy to let up. Hell, it's almost human nature.. When you are losing big and you want to keep fighting to win then desperation mode kicks in and you start to play your absolute best to get back in. Most times it's just never enough though because the other team finally gets that reason to play hard again.


Another thing everyone MUST keep in mind.. Everyone wants to be the team that breaks the Warriors undefeated streak! So guess what? Every team is giving 110% effort every night! And they still win the games.

They remind me of the 2007 Suns whose run & gun offense was their defense. Cliché but true: Offense wins games. Defense wins championships.

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Originally Posted by .G.

They remind me of the 2007 Suns whose run & gun offense was their defense. Cliché but true: Offense wins games. Defense wins championships.

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Very true. The 2007 Suns would have had an easy championship if the 2007 Spurs weren't there to meet them. That's the main difference.

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Originally Posted by cd98

Their defense is good enough to make it extremely hard to keep up with their offense.

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Also this. Kind of like the Eagles' defense before the Tampa Bay loss

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Originally Posted by KDKSpurs24

Dude have you ever actually played a sport? Do you know how hard it is to keep a big lead?? I have been on both sides of a blowout while playing. When you have a huge lead, the game feels like it takes FOREVER to end. It's easy to let up. Hell, it's almost human nature.. When you are losing big and you want to keep fighting to win then desperation mode kicks in and you start to play your absolute best to get back in. Most times it's just never enough though because the other team finally gets that reason to play hard again.


Another thing everyone MUST keep in mind.. Everyone wants to be the team that breaks the Warriors undefeated streak! So guess what? Every team is giving 110% effort every night! And they still win the games.

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Yes, I've played a lot, both basketball and football, and I don't care if it's tied or we're up 40, I'm going to keep making plays to help my team score offensively and I'm going to continue to yell at my teammates to "get your fucking man" every time. It's serious business with me and sports

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Originally Posted by .G.

They remind me of the 2007 Suns whose run & gun offense was their defense. Cliché but true: Offense wins games. Defense wins championships.

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I told my friend this the other day. Offense wins you regular season games. Defense wins you championships. When the pressure is on and the shots arent dropping you have to find a way to stop the bleeding, if you cant defend, you cant win the title.