Spurs have basically now caught up to GS in point differential

Spurs have basically now caught up to GS in point differential

After 25 games, Spurs +12.2 per game, GS + 12.9 per game. That's a difference of only about 17 points over the entire season so far.

Stats men know that point differential is a better predictor of future success than win/loss record for elite teams.

Go Spurs.

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#Galileo'sNeatOStatOfTheNight

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And we ain't playing good basketball. :lmao

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#Galileo'sNeatOStatOfTheNight

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Hang that banner next to the "21 of 22 games won when leading at the beginning of the 4th" banner.

Spurs v. Warriors will be the real NBA Finals this year

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Hang that banner next to the "21 of 22 games won when leading at the beginning of the 4th" banner.

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Spurs lead after 3Q in 23 of 25 games, GS only 21 of 25 games!

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_re...=iref:nba:gnav

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The Spurs now have a better record than GS in games decided by 10 point or more:

Spurs: 16 wins, 1 loss
GS: 15 wins, 1 loss

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_re...=iref:nba:gnav

Stats men can tell you record in 10+ games correlate better to eventual success than W/L records.

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The Spurs now have a better record than GS in games decided by 10 point or more:

Spurs: 16 wins, 1 loss
GS: 15 wins, 1 loss

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_re...=iref:nba:gnav

Stats men can tell you record 10+ games correlate better to eventual success than W/L records.

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Reddit would love you. :lol

Spurs have also led by more Q4 minutes than Warriors. But some call that "Spurs have had a cupcake schedule"

Reel 'em in as the season goes on. :hat

I predict another few losses for GW relatively soon. That usually happens after streaks end. The intensity drops for awhile as everyone takes a breath.

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Spurs have basically now caught up to GS in point differential

After 25 games, Spurs +12.2 per game, GS + 12.9 per game. That's a difference of only about 17 points over the entire season so far.

Stats men know that point differential is a better predictor of future success than win/loss record for elite teams.

Go Spurs.

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GSW .503 (13th)

SAS .468 (29th)

:lol Point differential in mid December

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And we ain't playing good basketball. :lmao

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That's actually a pretty fucking scary thought for the rest of the league. The warriors played basically as best as they possibly can and we haven't even sniffed our ceiling yet.

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Just wait till SPAM gets here....:spam:

NBA = F:lolcked

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GSW .503 (13th)

SAS .468 (29th)

:lol Point differential in mid December

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We get it, you don't like the Spurs. :lol

Good for you.

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That's actually a pretty fucking scary thought for the rest of the league. The warriors played basically as best as they possibly can and we haven't even sniffed our ceiling yet.

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Confirmed league F:lmaoucked.

Tony Parker is gonna give Riley Curry another sister

Oops, now it says GS has a point differential of +13.1.

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Reel 'em in as the season goes on. :hat

I predict another few losses for GW relatively soon. That usually happens after streaks end. The intensity drops for awhile as everyone takes a breath.

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The triple OT yesterday against Boston killed them.
Greg Monroe went apeshit on them tonight with 28 points.

Remember how pedestrian Monroe looked against Tim a few days ago?

Spurs fans are so happy that the Warriors finally lost 1 game, this is pathetic lol

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Spurs fans are so happy that the Warriors finally lost 1 game, this is pathetic lol

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them uber users ain't gonna pick themselves up. chop chop

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The triple OT yesterday against Boston killed them.
Greg Monroe went apeshit on them tonight with 28 points.

Remember how pedestrian Monroe looked against Tim a few days ago?

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Or how Tim is the top defender in the league by at least one measure (DRPM), while you can punish the Warriors in the post.

Milwaukee, for all of its defensive woes this year by adding Monroe (awful post D), still have a lot of length on the perimeter and I thought that would give GS trouble. You know who else has length on the wings?

are the Spurs ever going to play against a decent team? oh ya they lost to Toronto and Ok City lol

Points differential has been a pretty good indicator of post-season success. Doesn't mean it predicts which team will win it all, but it's one of the best ways to spot the contenders vs the pretenders. Back in 08-09, the Spurs won 54 games and the SW Division, but their points differential was only something like 3.5, and they got knocked out in the first round by Dallas. They were pretenders.

But comparing the Spurs and Warriors differential doesn't prove anything. Normally, if two teams have roughly the same point differential in the regular season, go with the one that plays the best defense when it's playoff time. One team scores 105 and gives up 97 all season and the other team scores 98 and gives up 90 - same differential, but playoff basketball favors the second more often than not. The Mike D'Antoni Suns are the best example of that I can think of.

The way Golden State is playing right now, it may be a different story. But we're only 25 games in. Still, if I had to pick a team to put against the Dubs in the playoffs, it would be one that had a high point differential but gave up a lot fewer points per game. As of now, that's the Spurs.

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Tony Parker is gonna give Riley Curry another sister

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More like Tony Parker is gonna give Steph a grandchild

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Spurs v. Warriors will be the real NBA Finals this year

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It was last year too. Clips just played as Warriors proxy is all.

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Points differential has been a pretty good indicator of post-season success. Doesn't mean it predicts which team will win it all, but it's one of the best ways to spot the contenders vs the pretenders. Back in 08-09, the Spurs won 54 games and the SW Division, but their points differential was only something like 3.5, and they got knocked out in the first round by Dallas. They were pretenders.

But comparing the Spurs and Warriors differential doesn't prove anything. Normally, if two teams have roughly the same point differential in the regular season, go with the one that plays the best defense when it's playoff time. One team scores 105 and gives up 97 all season and the other team scores 98 and gives up 90 - same differential, but playoff basketball favors the second more often than not. The Mike D'Antoni Suns are the best example of that I can think of.

The way Golden State is playing right now, it may be a different story. But we're only 25 games in. Still, if I had to pick a team to put against the Dubs in the playoffs, it would be one that had a high point differential but gave up a lot fewer points per game. As of now, that's the Spurs.

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Good point. If you go by points ratio, Spurs are already better than GS.

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are the Spurs ever going to play against a decent team? oh ya they lost to Toronto and Ok City lol

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Lakers lol

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Lakers lol

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Trollin' ain't easy

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Points differential has been a pretty good indicator of post-season success. Doesn't mean it predicts which team will win it all, but it's one of the best ways to spot the contenders vs the pretenders. Back in 08-09, the Spurs won 54 games and the SW Division, but their points differential was only something like 3.5, and they got knocked out in the first round by Dallas. They were pretenders.

But comparing the Spurs and Warriors differential doesn't prove anything. Normally, if two teams have roughly the same point differential in the regular season, go with the one that plays the best defense when it's playoff time. One team scores 105 and gives up 97 all season and the other team scores 98 and gives up 90 - same differential, but playoff basketball favors the second more often than not. The Mike D'Antoni Suns are the best example of that I can think of.

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GS points ratio: 1.1272 to 1
Spurs: 1.1383 to 1

Spurs > GS.

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Good point. If you go by points ratio, Spurs are already better than GS.

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You're on your own with that. I'm being perfectly clear, that's not what I said.

What I did say was that the Spurs are they kind of team that probably has the best chance against a team like the Warriors in the playoffs. No more, no less.

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Spurs fans are so happy that the Warriors finally lost 1 game, this is pathetic lol

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What? Nobody here gives a shit about that team of twinks. Streaks are meaningless and they weren't going to go 82-0. I'm looking forward to seeing the Spurs win #6.

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What? Nobody here gives a shit about that team of twinks. Streaks are meaningless and they weren't going to go 82-0. I'm looking forward to seeing the Spurs win #6.

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Of course not. That's why 6 out of the top 14 threads in the Spurs forum are dedicated to the Warriors. Because apparently, nobody cares :lol. Posters here are so hot and bothered by the Warriors and their success, that Spurs fans can't handle it.

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GSW .503 (13th)

SAS .468 (29th)

:lol Point differential in mid December

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And we ain't playing good basketball. :lmao

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This is what Ryen Russillo just said on NBA Tonight too. He said their offense hasn't caught up to their excellent defense.

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You're on your own with that. I'm being perfectly clear, that's not what I said.

What I did say was that the Spurs are they kind of team that probably has the best chance against a team like the Warriors in the playoffs. No more, no less.

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That is what you said without realizing it. Given equal point differentials, as points allowed goes down, points ratio goes up, even allowing points scored going down. In other words, the Spurs can beat GS with clamp-down defense.

In addition: while other sites still have it as a slight gap, net rating is equal according to basketball-reference, expected w-l record (theirs is a whopping 3 games worse than their actual record) is too and they had virtually identical strength of schedules until a few days ago.

In other words, their start has been both overrated and lucky and the Spurs' has been underrated, more so recently, as they've progressively closed the gap on them.

Meanwhile, there's reason to believe the Spurs have another gear, for obvious reasons, while they probably don't and might be in the process of blowing their load before the playoffs even commence.

Means absolutely fucking nothing.

What's more interesting is Spurs only have 5 losses and Worriers have 1. Basically 1st seed is still up in the air :lol crazy

Means rest for starters

What's more, our point differential should be even higher than it currently is, since Pop tends to bench the starters early and have the third-stringers blow the lead.

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What's more, our point differential should be even higher than it currently is, since Pop tends to bench the starters early and have the third-stringers blow the lead.

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Pop does this to reduce the injuries and wear on the playoff key guys. If another key guy is discovered in the process and they keep winning? Bonus.

point differential plus road record are very good measures

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That's actually a pretty fucking scary thought for the rest of the league. The warriors played basically as best as they possibly can and we haven't even sniffed our ceiling yet.

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People talking about how the Spurs "can't win close games" and that the every game is about skill and there's no element of luck:

http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/iso...r&OD=offensive

Game 1 of the season, the Spurs force the ball out of the hands of the guy who's turned out to be the best ISO player in the league this year (Durant) and to Waiters, who is the WORST based on the above - 1/2 the expect PPP as Durant. That's great execution, but awful luck.

Other fun observations from these rankings:

- Kawhi has been a beast both in ISO and post-ups. Duncan great in the post too. Kawhi's also leading the league in spot-up points (guys like Curry obviously have better PPP), and been good on hand-offs - akin to a pick.

- Aldridge is #1 in putbacks by a wide margin. Great to have a guy who can work the offensive glass when that hasn't been a focus in the past, and especially when it works against teams like the Warriors

- Patty leading league in off-screen action (yes, he's an offensive SG in a PG body). Parker and Mills with solid 1.0 PPP as PNR ballhandler.

- Blake and Durant have been beasting this year

http://i.imgur.com/PpTG6l4.jpg

It's interesting that the Spurs losses were all close games. But for a play or two, Spurs could be undefeated. And GS has won a few they could have lost.

Spurs should pass Golden State in net rating after this Jazz game.

Spurs now #1 in point differential (13.2 vs. 13.1). Margin is a bit wider if you look at net rating since the Spurs play at a much slower pace than GS.

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Spurs now #1 in point differential (13.2 vs. 13.1). Margin is a bit wider if you look at net rating since the Spurs play at a much slower pace than GS.

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Galileo is a genius!!!!!!

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http://i.imgur.com/PpTG6l4.jpg

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Galileo is a genius!!!!!!

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https://img.pandawhale.com/post-4397...lkers-lwaF.gif

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People talking about how the Spurs "can't win close games" and that the every game is about skill and there's no element of luck:

http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/iso...r&OD=offensive

Game 1 of the season, the Spurs force the ball out of the hands of the guy who's turned out to be the best ISO player in the league this year (Durant) and to Waiters, who is the WORST based on the above - 1/2 the expect PPP as Durant. That's great execution, but awful luck.

Other fun observations from these rankings:

- Kawhi has been a beast both in ISO and post-ups. Duncan great in the post too. Kawhi's also leading the league in spot-up points (guys like Curry obviously have better PPP), and been good on hand-offs - akin to a pick.

- Aldridge is #1 in putbacks by a wide margin. Great to have a guy who can work the offensive glass when that hasn't been a focus in the past, and especially when it works against teams like the Warriors

- Patty leading league in off-screen action (yes, he's an offensive SG in a PG body). Parker and Mills with solid 1.0 PPP as PNR ballhandler.

- Blake and Durant have been beasting this year

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Nice stuff! :toast

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And we ain't playing good basketball. :lmao

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I agree.

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It's interesting that the Spurs losses were all close games. But for a play or two, Spurs could be undefeated. And GS has won a few they could have lost.

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GS makes more of an effort to win games. Furthermore, their talent is more concentrated to a few that can will their team to win games.

Both teams though have had relatively easy schedules.

What happens when outliers / absurd beatings like the last 76ers game are taken out?

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What happens when outliers / absurd beatings like the last 76ers game are taken out?

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Same goes for the GSW absurd beat down of the Grizz by 50. Spurs are just as good, and yes, I will say it, better than the Warriors as they match up with them perfectly.

Spurs are the Warriors kryptonite. The only team I am worried about beating the Spurs is OKC. That is the one team the Spurs need HC advantage to win a playoff series.

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Same goes for the GSW absurd beat down of the Grizz by 50. Spurs are just as good, and yes, I will say it, better than the Warriors as they match up with them perfectly.

Spurs are the Warriors kryptonite. The only team I am worried about beating the Spurs is OKC. That is the one team the Spurs need HC advantage to win a playoff series.

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I'd be interested in seeing their numbers without those games too.
At least take out huge beatings against very bad teams. No chance the POs will be like that.
Warriors haven't played the 76ers.


Agree 100% with OKC.

NBA Efficiency Differential Rankings: Spurs Tie Warriors For First

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Full Week 7 Rankings

1. Golden State: 13.0
2. San Antonio: 13.0
3. Oklahoma City: 7.1
4. Cleveland: 5.7
5. Boston: 4.9
6. Charlotte: 4.9
7. Toronto: 4.8
8. Indiana: 3.7
9. Detroit: 1.9
10. Miami: 1.8
11. L.A. Clippers: 1.7
12. Utah: 1.4
13. Orlando: 0.7
14. Dallas: 0.6
15. Chicago: 0.6
16. Atlanta: 0.4
17. Phoenix: 0.2
18. Portland: -0.1
19. Minnesota: -1.2
20. New York: -2.0
21. Houston: -2.6
22. Sacramento: -3.3
23. Washington: -3.6
24. Memphis: -5.5
25. Denver: -5.9
26. Milwaukee: -6.0
27. Brooklyn: -6.1
28. New Orleans: -6.9
29. L.A. Lakers: -10.5
30. Philadelphia: -12.9

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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...sfhF19QZMXy.01

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NBA Efficiency Differential Rankings: Spurs Tie Warriors For First



http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...sfhF19QZMXy.01

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What's amazing about that to me is that the Spurs and Warriors are both as good as the 76ers are bad.

Whether or not the Spurs have actually become as consistent as the Dubs will be proven in the next 20 games.