Suns/Warriors

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

Even if the 2016 Spurs beat the 2016 Warriors in the playoffs, I'll still consider the similarities to the Spurs/Suns in 2005 to be superficial. Not sure why that bothers you so much. If you were seeking affirmation you should have started a "Duncan is better than Kobe" thread.

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It doesn't bother me. I enjoy debating about this tbh. I jus want you to explain why you think it's superficial? Because I don't think you've closely examined the two. You're just saying so becaus the Warriors are the champs?

GSW >>>>> those Nash led Suns teams

And it's not even close

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Originally Posted by coachmac87

It doesn't bother me. I enjoy debating about this tbh. I jus want you to explain why you think it's superficial? Because I don't think you've closely examined the two. You're just saying so becaus the Warriors are the champs?

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I think that the Warriors are playoff tested and committed to playing on both sides of the ball. The 2005 Suns were neither of those things. Thus my opinion that any statistical similarities are much more superficial than informative. And I did examine those statistics before posting in this thread.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

GSW >>>>> those Nash led Suns teams

And it's not even close

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14 Spurs > 05 Spurs? 05 Spurs > 14 Spurs?

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

I think that the Warriors are playoff tested and committed to playing on both sides of the ball. The 2005 Suns were neither of those things. Thus my opinion that any statistical similarities are much more superficial than informative. And I did examine those statistics before posting in this thread.

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Thank you Mel.

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Originally Posted by coachmac87

Thank you Mel.

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:bobo

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Originally Posted by coachmac87

Warriors are giving up 102.2 pts per game...

The 05' Suns gave up 103 pts per game...

My point was the Suns teams were GREAT teams who played a style that took the NBA by storm. They probably would've won a title but they ended up playing the team built to beat them.

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And even then, the Spurs were lucky to escape that series. That's the most worried I've been about any series.

The only thing those two teams have in common are they both scored a lot of points and the media constantly jerked them off 24/7.

A few differences off the top of my head:

• The Warriors can play slow. Their fast break is not a gimmick. They play excellent team ball, set good screens and get a ton of points in the paint.
• The Warriors have several guys that are excellent defenders, and they play good team defense. They're like the Heat team that got Ray Allen to play defense.
• Curry is a true two way player, scores a ton of points and actually deserves his MVP.
• The Warriors are super deep, and they can win games without grinding down their starters.

Yeah but they were jerked off for good reason. Suns won 62 games that year in a deeper league. They were averaging 110+ pts per game and say what you want about Nash...he was a dominant player at his position. Curry just does it in a different way.

People just shrug off that 05 Suns team because they didn't win a title. But they went up against a PRIME DUNCAN, PRIME MANU and a damn good Tony Parker...id say the 05 team was the best Spurs championship team.

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Originally Posted by coachmac87

Suns didn't win the title because they played against a team in 05 Spurs that was built to beat them in a 7 game series..

Something that the Warriors could face this year against the Spurs. And yes the Warriors were champs but not playing the Spurs/OKC and injuries to Cavs played a factor in that

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Detroit would have probably repeated had the Suns knocked the Spurs out.

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Originally Posted by coachmac87

Yeah but they were jerked off for good reason. Suns won 62 games that year in a deeper league. They were averaging 110+ pts per game and say what you want about Nash...he was a dominant player at his position. Curry just does it in a different way.

People just shrug off that 05 Suns team because they didn't win a title. But they went up against a PRIME DUNCAN, PRIME MANU and a damn good Tony Parker...id say the 05 team was the best Spurs championship team.

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People shrug off the 05 Suns because they were shit defensively.