Who do you want to get the 3rd seed?
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Who do you want to get the 3rd seed?
The Clipps are a major pain.
But to lose to the Clipps in the playoffs means you win the title the next year. :)
I'll take the Thunder, tbh..CP3-Blake one two punch PNR/PNP is tougher for us to defend..Pop self-imploding with hack-a-DJ strategy..Kawhi inexplicable disappearance vs those guys..rookie coach+ Westchuck on the other hand..
Clippers.
Thunder are scary as hell, they'll probably beat us in a 7 game series but won't beat GSW.
OKC
With Pop's coaching we're basically playing 6 on 5 against LAC
Both :ihit
oh wait, I thought the question was who do you want to play in the playoffs
Thunder for sure. Clippers are a nightmare matchup for us.
Strategically, I want the one who gives Golden state a tougher matchup to play golden state. Spurs always have a hard road to the Finals. About time someone else got that luck.
Either way, Spurs win tbh..
OKC, they are softer on defense and Durant isn't the same after all those surgeries.
Yes, I agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
OkC gave fits to our bench, specially their big men, otherwise it would have gone better for us.
Clippers present problems for us.
Well if the Grizz stay at 6 they could make things interesting if the clips rise to 3. They know how to play the clips and even if they don't win they'd rough them up for us.
Not sure who is tougher for GSW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mnky
I would have thought Clippers bc of their potential to be dominant in the paint, but GSW handled Clippers no problem.
OKC looks like a shallow team in comparison to GSW, but their length I suppose can bother them, and they also can run, and Westbrook is a handful for any guard to handle. Which is your guess?
OKC. Clips vs. the Dubs is a blood feud and I'd love to see them beating each other up. Clips aren't scared of them. They're also a nightmare match up for us. On the other hand, we've gained a lot of confidence playing against the Thunder.
Both are gonna give the Spurs some problems tbh, that was an entertaining game to watch vs the Clippers until Pop hacka, thank god i didnt watch live so i could skip all that
Clippers played terrific, ran out of juice in the 4th but the Spurs showed up and took the challenge. Definitely a key game for the Spurs to learn from and improve
I thought I texted Pete and told him to tell you that it's time to start a mvparker thread where you eat your crow....
OKC is a much easier matchup for the Spurs now IMO, but they probably have a better chance at knocking off the Warriors, too..
I don't give one flying fuck as long as we're healthy, tbqh
A Warriors-Clippers, Spurs-OKC WCSF would be a dream come true for basketball fans everywhere. So many great storylines.
Still would rather play the Clips, tbh. But ask me again in March. If we continue struggle against the Clips this season, I'd prob change my pick. Either team gives problems though.
It depends on how the Spurs play both of these teams in later matchups this year.
We are not losing this season to the fucking clippers. Okc i respect.
Idk man he still looks pretty damn good.Quote:
Originally Posted by testies
I think the addition of LMA helps both of these match-ups quite a bit. But I might have to pick the Thunder, cuz we simply don't seem to have an answer for CP3-BG PnR. They keep spamming that play and it keeps getting them easy buckets. Thunder would be slightly easier to guard w/ their tendency to iso, just gotta let Kawhi and Green do their thing on KD and Russ.
One of them will likely get a 4 seed, just saying.
KD and Russ would crush the Spurs
Whoever gives the Warriors most trouble would be the ideal 4th seed. Clippers might give them a decent push. Not sure how OKC will fare against the Warriors yet.
I dunno, I kind of feel like the defense the Thunder have this year would get absolutely destroyed by the Dubs. I think the Clips would at least hang in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
OKC doesn't have a post player to punish the Warriors. Kanter is no better than Baynes in the post & would get eaten alive on the Curry switches. Clipper on the other hand can matchup w/ Curry/Klay/Draymond w/ Paul/ReDick/Blake, they have a prayers chance if Pierce &/or Lance can give them 4 decent games.Quote:
Originally Posted by 024
ReDick didn't even play when the Warriors barely beat the Clippers at STAPLES. The Clippers are also the last team to beat the Warriors in a playoffs series (2014) so let's hope the top 5 standings remain the way they are since I don't think the Spurs will catch the Warriors.
-Clippers/Warriors/Mavs will be in the same bracket :toast
-Rockets will probably climb to the 6th seed and face OKC
-Hopefully, Jazz-Dubs 1st rd since Favors gave Draymond issues
-LMA revenge bowl against Z-Bo & the Grizz (Won't stop getting a beatdown for 2011:lol)
I honestly can't wait to see Westbrook go at the warriors. They don't play til February tho. It will probably come down to who's bench is playing bigger. I think thunder have the edge right now due to their ability to score at will and play at a fast tempo efficiently. Westbrook and Durant are a force when healthy. Their length, like you mentioned, will help against gs shooting prowess as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
Westbrook was terrible last season against the Warriors when he was murdering the rest of the league, Draymond can switch onto him so he can't get into the paint easily. They have lanky wing defender to put on him: Iggy/Klay/Livingston but Iggy will be spending most of his time on Durant along w/ Barnes. Westbrook propensity to jack up shots & gamble on defense is going to give Curry ample opportunity to get easy looks. Curry can also hide on Roberson/Waiters on defense. Barnes is the one that has had issues trying to guard Durant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mnky
As long as Durant is healthy, they will be a tougher match up for the Dubs, thus a better 4th seed for us. Big IF though. West is weaker this season, but the BIG 4 are damn heavy weights on their own.
Clippers.... Spurs have much better options in guarding Paul. Also, only reason Clippers were in the game was they weren't calling fouls on their rough play and refs were biting on all the flopping that Paul was doing.
Spurs should send the league a tape of Paul's antics.
The Thunder are nothing special. Two great players, one good player, and a collection of NBA middle/bottom rotation players and d-leaguers. They're pretty terrible defensively, and that will be their undoing.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
Be careful with the Thunder. They got a new coach that can't be as bad as the old coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
I believe looking past the thunder would be huge mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Clippers only because I want OKC to get sent to Golden State. Clippers would meltdown in GS because they are just mentally weaker and have an inferior mindset. The Thunder would give the Warriors a series and potentially beat them.
Exactly, and that Scott Brooks was a huge negative for that team. I havent watched much Thunder, I am not sure if the issues they have are fixed, but if healthy, they can beat any team in the NBA in a 7 game series. We all know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
I'm not looking past the Thunder, I simply recognize that they are about 80% of their 2012 squad, if that.Quote:
Originally Posted by bic50
Dallas
I don't think any of the top four is going to be a walk in the park in the playoffs. We need to be focused on ourselves and ready to be anyone that comes at us. However if I have to pick I'd say, even though we have more recently lost to the Clips I'd pick them for the 3 spot. Mainly because I'd like to see GSW and the Methlahoma Thunderrefs slug it out. We will likely beat either of these teams. Anyone saying 'KD and Westchuck will destroy us' needs to watch more games. Lebron beat them by himself two nights ago, they are not winning any LOB anytime soon. :flag:
After quarter of season sample size the most likely seeding positions will be:
1- Warriors
2- Spurs
3- Thunder (assuming Durant stays healthy)
4- Clippers
5- Mavericks
6- Houston
7- Memphis
8- Jazz/ or any other fodder team
Clippers vs Mavericks/Clippers vs Warriors are must-watch TV in terms of current rivalry fireworks..Spurs avoiding those 3 teams until WCF is a good thing since all have 6-game series potential to them at the very least..
Last year's thunder was all Westbrook. With Durant in, the whole defense cant focus on him. It'll be interesting to see the change. I think it'll be a fun matchup with all the scoring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
I think Spurs end up with 1 seed
LoL, 2 of the 3 match-ups were w/ Durant. It's not a coincidence even in the lone game without Durant that Westbrook was having his way against every team except the WarriorsQuote:
Originally Posted by Mnky
Was he the real Durant, or one foot Durant in those games?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
Westbrook is a competitor with an unmatachable skill set. I'll bet on him any day of the week.
When the Thunder beat the warriors last year, Westbrook bad a career night with 17 assists and 15 rebounds to go with 17 pts.
What part of that makes you think he didnts have his way? :lol
Most of those assists were to Durant on the 1-3 PnR & look at Westbrook's shooting percentages/turnovers:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Mnky
Clippers don't worry me, they played above themselves last year and won by a possession. Spurs aren't yet playing their best ball and just beat the Clippers at their best.
Spurs are a much better team than OKC but Durant will always get his and the Spurs have no answer for Westbrook so I'd rather the Spurs don't have to face them.
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Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
Don't worry, OKC and Clippers won't win shit against the Spurs. Spurs D was trash last night but it will improve - as will the offense. GSW are going to be punked in the playoffs. OKC wants no part of the Spurs.
I hope we face OKC. The Clippers may not have the talent of OKC, but this whole "rivalry" thing with GSW allows them to compete with them at a very high level. Add to that the fact that they beat them in a series in 2013, it gives them a certain degree of confidence to repeat that feat, and in the one game they've played this year, they had the lead in the fourth quarter.
I'm a conspiracy theorist, so my thing with OKC vs GSW is that I'm assuming Durant and Westbrook won't get their usual superstar calls (thunderrefs, reflahoma, food stamps, charity, etc.). The Warriors are generating insane ratings, more than OKC (due to their light skin and affinity for 3s), and I think the NBA is trying to put together a finals rematch in an attempt to acquire maximum viewership. If 2012 occurred because they wanted KD v Lebron, then there's no stopping the Curry v Lebron II. I think America is curious to see how a healthy Cavaliers would fare against GSW.
OKC is essentially a 2 man offense with a heavy dose of isolations. Golden State's defense in the Kerr Era is remarkable, and all they have to do is put their best defender on KD, and let Westbrook shoot his own team out of the game. Iggy, Barnes, Tr3ymond, Livingston, you name it, the Warriors just have superpower juggernaut levels of individual and team defense. And like someone said, allowing Curry to relax on god awful players like Roberson, Waiters, and the rest of their scrap is a death sentence.
A motion offense is the best recipe to test this Warrior defense, and the Clippers starters, led by CP3, make everybody work. Curry on CP3? Not happening. Curry on Redick? Good luck following him around. They don't have a legitimate small forward, but I doubt Kerr tries to assign Curry onto someone much taller than him (see Michael Carter Williams). Not to mention the absolutely unguardable (by any team in the NBA) and spammed to death double high pick and roll/pop the Clippers run with CP3, Blake, and DJ, I think their guys, including their bench (able to get away with Pierce and Smith at power forward and center, respectively), will be least affected by the Warriors small ball lineup and fantastic defense.
Sadly, it's looking like the Rockets will finish fifth, and if they do, they have a good chance of upsetting the Clippers. The amount of toying, humiliation, and absolute degradation that the Warriors deploy on the Rockets is excruciatingly painful to watch, and H&H get exposed and belittled every time they meet. Hopefully, a WCF rematch doesn't happen, or else it'll be a literal second round bye for the Warriors.
In the end, Clippers are a bad match up for us because CP3 is cerebral, and even though this forum mocks Doc Rivers a lot, he's still got his players playing smart, high IQ, fundamental basketball. It's not his fault he doesn't have a bench. These guys beating us in 2 home games with us up in the series is not a testament to an injured Splitter or Parker, a slumping Green Ranger, our lack of desire to repeat/complacence, or anything but the fact that these guys know how to limit the production of our franchise player, and that's not something we should desire.
Whereas we've always owned the post-Harden Thunder, and we have WingStop to counter their 2 top 5 players. Parker can hide on Roberson, and stay fresh enough to run the offense to it's most lethal capacity. Ibaka can't guard (playoff) Duncan or LMA, Adams can't clone himself, and Anus Cancer makes Bellinelli look like the inventor of defense. Our offense is centered around the post game and mid range, not penetration, so no need to fear paint protection from I-block-a.
TL;DR - I prefer to face OKC who we've proven we can beat and let GSW go toe to toe with the Clippers who've shown that they don't get their shit pushed in like everybody else in the NBA against the Splash Brothers.
I think you're reaching. They blew GS out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
OKC is dangerous
I'm reaching b/c I pointed out the most objective stats which are his shooting percentages & turnovers. Anyone can rack up assists running PnRs w/ Durant.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mnky
Actually it is. Doc is head of basketball operations and makes all personnel decisions for them. GM Doc is definitely letting Coach Doc down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloud786
Parker's healthy the Spurs would have beat the Clippers. Beginning of story, end of story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloud786
I agree. People are acting like Durant and Westbrook are JV guys. I think Mr. MOUTHPIECE will break down chasing 72 wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
Nobody thinks that WB/Durant are JV guys. The rest of the team is, though. They've loaded their team with guys who can only play one side of the ball, and that will ultimately do them in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikoluna
People need to stop thinking in terms of 2012 OKC. This team is a shadow of that one.
meh, we are past Stern's league wanting a certain matchup..you can't survive an officiating travesty in the age of twitter if you wished to..Plus, the Warriors aren't FT-reliant team..If they beat us, i would assume we weren't good enough..Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloud786
Clippers will be ousted in the 1st round by the Rockets.They have their number.Heard it here.
Thunder roster 4-13 :lol
No you're reaching because he had a career night in assists and 15 rebounds for a point guard is no joke, not to mention the 17 pts and getting the W. Yes he had 3 to, and shot 7/19. To say he struggles against them would definitely be a reach. They're a good team, he doesn't struggle with them though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
Just my opinion, don't take it personal, its really not that serious bubba.
MCW this season fared better against the Warriors than Westbrook did last season when he was dropping 30/10/10 on every other team.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mnky
Definitely Clippers. It would inevitably be a difficult series, but if the Spurs are physically right, I'm confident they'd win.
I see it as more of a toss up against the Thunder, with home court probably deciding it.
The biggest problem with the Thunder isn't so much match-up at this point, as it is their confidence vs the Spurs and the Spurs lack thereof vs them. Hopefully that changes during subsequent meetings in the regular season. Plus, outside of Curry and presuming James has another gear for the playoffs, they're one of the few teams capable of overwhelming the Spurs with star power.
Stop posting, moron. Fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
you're a troll alt that got bolded only because it's an old troll alt. gtfo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingle Barry
Clippers. Spurs are good at revenge. Memphis in 2011, OKC in 2012, Miami in 2013 all got beaten the following series. Clippers 2015 next. Unfortunately it looks like OKC will easily finish 3rd and face the Spurs. Also OKC can give the Warriors much more trouble than Clippers.
The Clippers are the last team to beat the Warriors in a playoff series & OKC has nobody to guard Curry/Klay but yet folks claim "OKC can give the Warriors much more trouble than Clippers"?!?!?. Are people going to act like the Clippers weren't leading the Warriors in the 4th quarter of BOTH games this season include one where they played without ReDick!Quote:
Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan
November games :lol Clippers can't play small. Warriors would destroy them in a playoff series with Geen at the 5. You have to hang with the Warriors ultra small ball line-up at least for a while if you want to have a chance against them. Green at the 5 will make Jordan go all the way to the high post at least , which would open all types of lanes to the basket for slashers and on the other end Green can guard Blake quite well. Only chance for the Clippers would be if they could utilize a Blake-Pierce combo, but Pierce is beyond done. They better hope he's saving energy for the playoffs or to make a great trade at the deadline.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
Clippers don't have to play small-ball, nobody should try to beat the Warriors at their game b/c they will end up w/ an L. DeAndre has proven that he can pound them on the offensive glass & Blake has proven Draymond can't limit him below his season average. The Clippers issue is always going to be finding a wing player b/c Moute is unplayable in the postseason. The best candidate is going to be Lance since he is still young & has proven in the past that he can perform in the postseason. Crawford/Pierce/Josh Smith/Rivers, at best, won't be asked to do anything more than not get stomped & keep the margin close.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan
It's up to Glenn to realize Moute ain't going to cut it & give Lance a chance by inserting him into the starting lineup instead of pairing him w/ a bunch of knucklehead chuckers (Josh/Crawford/Rivers). The guy is shooting close to 40% from 3 thus he would be a decent option as a spot-up shooter who can also play D unlike Doc's crush Jamal Crawford who was abominable on offense let alone defense against the Warriors.:lol
It seems like Doc is more interested in a shouting match w/ Josh/Lance rather than cultivating their talents so their season already looks like a lost cause.:downspin:
OKC vs Clipps tonight?
https://margethelarge.files.wordpres...them-fight.jpg
Y'all watching? The starting wingplayers on both teams are neutralizing each other on offense by contributing nothing.:lol
So Durant blocked Paul at the buzzer to win it for OKC?
I think Dirkbaka got to it, most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajh18
Once again, I'm right. Clippers aren't dangerous at all. OKC's game is tailor made to succeed in the playoffs especially considering their butt buddy relationship with the refs/NBA.
They would have to get past HarenRefs in the 1st rd.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
if they play the Rockets in the 1st round they'll crush them as they did with ease in 2013 even WITHOUT Westbrook and Harden on the RocketsQuote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
once again tonight the refs fucked the clippers with bullshit officiating late. Chris Paul was fouled on his last layup. Should have been an and 1
2013?:lmao Harden came out on top during the past 2 meetings when he faced OKC w/ both Durant/Westbrook including earlier this season:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
both teams present the same problems for the spurs, they both hit that midrange jumper that the spurs give up at a high rate. Westbrook Durant and ibaka scare me more than Paul and Blake tho, so if I had to choose give me clippers.
Kawhi/Danny's defense is marginalized against the Clippers b/c they run their guards through millions of screens. On the other hand, they get to play 1-on-1 defense against Durant/Westbrook without worrying about Tony chasing Redick (Ibaka is a spot up shooter & can't take advantage of mismatches:lol).Quote:
Originally Posted by Floyd Pacquiao
Roberson also isn't as good a defender as a Moute & if they choose to play Waiters instead Durant has to guard Kawhi. Patty also doesn't have to worry about getting bullied by Rivers. :toast
People are forgetting how the Spurs thoroughly outplayed OKC at home during the 2014 series even w/ Ibaka in the lineup (Gm 5) meanwhile the Clippers are the last team to win in San Antonio both in the regular season & playoffs. As long as they have home-court advantage (ThunderRefs:lol) & Harden doesn't get traded back to OKC:lol, the Spurs should be good.
The Clippers are the only visiting team that held a lead at any point of the fourth quarter at San Antonio this season
I still think we beat both, but i believe that Clippers series will take a lot more out of us..There is reason Kawhi has no steals in his last 5 games with the Clippers and he is having some of his his worst shooting nights against them..their screen-heavy offense simply tucker him out and leave no legs to the point he is missing a lot of bunnies and near basket shots down the stretch....no brainer that i will pick the easier match-up for my best player in the playoffs..
I never thought i'd say this 2 years ago but i'd rather play the Thunder.. as someone mentioned above, Kawhi and Danny's defense pretty much become redundant against the Clips, and CP3/Blake have turned into matchup nightmares.. our primary defenders aren't suited to guard them.. and then on switches they find mismatches.
OKC at full strength struggling to beat the Nuggets (who are on a B2B) at home, gave up 112 pts (Spurs 86 w/o Tim) :lmao
Durant could be out few games with sprained toe..Clippers with chance to narrow the gap for 3rd seed even with Blake out himself..
OKC's defense:lmao
Did anyone see Westbrook's interview with J.A. Adande after the Lakers game on ESPN?
He laughed when Adande said everyone is talking about how well Golden State and San Antonio are playing and not OKC. Westbrook said thats fine, let them talk we are just getting better and better and will play well when the playoffs start.
Nothing surprising, typical Westbrook response. He's the delusional guy w/ a chip on his shoulder on that us against the world steez.Quote:
Originally Posted by DenialTwist
folks still wanting to play the Clippers instead of that horrific Thunder D :lmao..Spurs in 5, i'm calling it..
Go through another Pop shitting the bed with hack a DJ; another Kawhi/Green screened to death belowpar series at your own peril..Risk having CP3 making the conference Finals for first time at your expense..
I don't want to play Clippers. For whatever reason, they are as tough a matchup for us as there is.
det OKC defense..holy shit :lmao...
The Clippers for all their mental midgetry are more fundamentally sound basketball team, tbh..
OKC's current defense reminds me of the two blowouts in Gm 1/2 of the 2014 series (w/o Ibaka) & Gm 5 w/ Ibaka. There offense hasn't improved & their defense has regressed under Billy Donovan.:toastQuote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
Clippers are actually getting random contribution from their role players & Doc has put the two mental midgets Josh/Lance in the dog house (addition by subtraction). Hopefully, they stay 4th & face the Mavs (kill two birds w/ one rock) then give the Warriors a tough 6 game series. OKC meanwhile is primed for an ass whoopin' in the 2nd rd:lol, no more "Ibaka was injured" excuses.
Man, would be nice if the sixth seed beat OKC. Houston/Dallas can beat OKC...just hope it isnt memphis.
Hope we get memphis tbh :lol...
Jazz or Houston against OKC or Warriors would be nice.
Memphis seems like a seem that has no room for improvement so if the Rockets start playing up to their potential & the Jazz get healthy, they might get overtaken.:lol Wouldn't mind the Jazz considering how the two blowout but Gobert/Favors have given LMA/Tim issues in previous season & Patty got destroyed by Burks.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
If the Jazz are healthy, Jazz>Rockets>Grizz....best case scenario: GSW/Jazz, Grizz/Spurs, OKC/Rockets
Damn, Dame went off down the stretch :wow
No shit
Westbrook apparently didn't read the scouting report & wasn't aware that Lillard will pull up from 30 ft:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by BatManu20
Lillard doing his thang...Quote:
Originally Posted by BatManu20
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
Blazers deserved the win, there were some shitty calls helping OKShitty as usual.
To be fair, I read somewhere that Lillard three pointers are actually detrimental to his team..theres a stats somewhere there that says the blazers are 1-10 something when lillard takes a certain amount of threes..Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
Not that thats a good reason to leave a player than can get hot in stretches.
An OKC loss is always good news to me!:hat