...So far. Tim or Kawhi. Who you got?
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...So far. Tim or Kawhi. Who you got?
Co dpoy
Leonard.
Media doesn't want to give back to back DPOY's unless someone is head and shoulders above (which Leonard may be; but doubtful they see it that way). It may as well go to Timmy. He deserves the lifetime achievement award.
Kawhi with the goods. Timmy should have won it before though, but sadly, from an unbiased point of view, this is Kawhi's award to lose. Kawhi might very well be the NBA's next winner of a DPOY and MVP in the same season, I think Jordan was the last to do so.
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Originally Posted by Spurtacular
Lifetime achievement award? Kawhi's award to lose? Duncan is the one leading the entire NBA in DRPM, tbh. http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPMQuote:
Originally Posted by bdictjames
Although Tim has better per-minute numbers, sometimes, the volume does count. Kawhi does more, simply because he plays more minutes, and the media could see this as a better, more cumulative effect. I love my man Timmy but Kawhi has been the main cornerstone of this team, and his defense has a more offensive impact, if you know what I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Has anyone won DPOY & MVP in the same year?
Sure but it's not set in stone. It's a pretty close call, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by bdictjames
MJ did it in 1988. I thought he did it more than once, but apparently, that was the only year. I'm not sure if any other player has done it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LakerHater
It is closer than most people think.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Ben Wallace anyone? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
Hakeem Olajuwon in '93Quote:
Originally Posted by bdictjames
Hakeem Olajuwon, Dikembe Mutombo, Alonzo Mourning, Dwight Howard (3peat)Quote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
Not Parker
those guys were legit, Ben Wallace wasn't. Wallace got most of his blocks from the help side, frequently lost his man, instigated the Malice at the Palace, and got schooled by Shaq and Duncan in two straight Finals series. Massively overratedQuote:
Originally Posted by LakerHater
Rodman. Dwight fucking Howard won it like three years in a row.Quote:
Originally Posted by LakerHater
DPOY must be the most repeated award in NBA history, tbh. :lol
Tim is still the best rim protector, Kawhi on the other hand is the Dion Sanders of the NBA.
That's b/c reputation & blocks play a large part since the media folks voting don't watch every game. A perimeter defender would absolute have to shutdown star player to get a shine just like Kawhi ripping Curry last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Duncan would have to shill like Kobe.he plays too few minutes and shares a stage with a surprisingly good Aldridge. Kawhi is a highlight reel and the stats he produces are drool worthy.
It's probably kawhi's award to lose
Dwight led a team which had a bunch of defensively inept players to the Finals. He basically manned the paint all by himself b/c his frontcourt running mates were Rashard Lewis/Hedo:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
^^ Prime Dwight was one of the 5 best defensive presences of all-time, tbh..
There's virtually no chance that Duncan wins DPOY..he couldn't win it in his prime, there's no way they will give it to him at his current age and minutes/games played IMO..it's a hype-based award, and Kawhi is the most recognized defensive force in the NBA, right now..
Poll currently tied at 9-9
Duncan is definitely playing elite D, and covers the asses for the whole team, but Leonard has the momentum of the hype train behind him.
Way too early in the season for this kind of talk tbh.
Tim would have been running away w/ it if he had the media slobbering over him like Kirby esp. considering his age.:lol It would still be remarkable if Tim gets All-NBA 1st Team D honors at the age of 40 (would tie none other than Kirby for 1st team selections:lmao).Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
leonard
There is no way Duncan wins this. :lmao
jordan in 88 and hakeem in 94. That's well known. But leonard isn't gonna win dpoy 2 years in a row. They got to give it to someone else to hype up. I believe the league is gonna screw himQuote:
Originally Posted by LakerHater
Leonard.
You have to "reward" playing time imo
His PER numbers are off the charts bro, at his age people don't realise how AMAZING it is...Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Even if you compare to former HOFers for example it's insane, in 2015 with the atleticism of nowdays BB, the change of rules not helping defenders, etc.
Timmy is underated even by his own fans lmao...
I think Tim is slightly better still but Kawhi has a great shot at repeating if the Spurs' defense continues to be #1.
Dwight was a beast. I put the "fucking" between his names just because, tbh. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
So, what do you say now?
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...96#post8402096
We would have lost playing @GSW and @CLE if we had Duncan and Kawhi was out. Kawhi is still the best defensive player in the game. In the future we wouldn't be playing 2 starting PFs.
Tim and Kawhi are going to split votes and that faggot Raymond is going to win it :depressed..