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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
Not sure about Gibson or Noah. But gasol on the spurs would be insane. But it won't happen unfortunately.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
Kawhitstorm
Why in the hell would the Bulls make this deal? They could get Markeiff for peanuts if they were seeking a smallball PF/C. Pau isn't a salay dump player, he has value.
Sports Illustrated Rumors: http://www.si.com/nba/2015/12/24/chi...oah-taj-gibson
Likely to be true.
Speculation is they get nothing for Noah at the end of the season. They also might get nothing for Gasol if he opts out.
So they are leaking out to the press that they are looking for a trade. Beggars aren't going to be choosers.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
bic50
Not sure about Gibson or Noah. But gasol on the spurs would be insane. But it won't happen unfortunately.
Well if Spurs offer up LMA then it might be enough for Bulls to give away both Noah and Gasol. It could be the Bulls want to move to small ball play and are offering their bigs up for a trade. Gasol is a great play maker and Noah is the 2014 DPOY so there's still value in this deal.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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exstatic
Aldridge is 30. Gasoft is 35. Only one of them can be a cornerstone going forward, and it ain't Gasoft. Consider Noah a burnt out corpse from too many years of high minutes in the Thibs system. He's done.
The rare voice of reason. I'm not sure why this thread continued after this exclamation mark.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
sasaint
The rare voice of reason. I'm not sure why this thread continued after this exclamation mark.
2016 Free agency includes Durant. 2017 Free agency is ridiculously rich.
So if Gasol is available for 1-2 years, it gives maximum flexibility for the Spurs without a drop off in performance (with Gasol replacing LMA for 1-2 years).
2017 flexibility is important. Probably more important than the $20m/year LMA contract.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
Sports Illustrated Rumors:
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/12/24/chi...oah-taj-gibson
Likely to be true.
Speculation is they get nothing for Noah at the end of the season. They also might get nothing for Gasol if he opts out.
So they are leaking out to the press that they are looking for a trade. Beggars aren't going to be choosers.
Again why would they want Bobo when they have Taj/Niko under contract
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
Well if Spurs offer up LMA then it might be enough for Bulls to give away both Noah and Gasol. It could be the Bulls want to move to small ball play and are offering their bigs up for a trade. Gasol is a great play maker and Noah is the 2014 DPOY so there's still value in this deal.
Are legitimately low functioning? Serious question. Just need to know if I should feel bad for making fun of you.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
2016 Free agency includes Durant. 2017 Free agency is ridiculously rich.
So if Gasol is available for 1-2 years, it gives maximum flexibility for the Spurs without a drop off in performance (with Gasol replacing LMA for 1-2 years).
2017 flexibility is important. Probably more important than the $20m/year LMA contract.
Durant is not a "Spur" nor will he ever join the Spurs. This team has a shot at a championship this season while LMA and Tim are both playing very good basketball. I would not be willing to throw that away for some pie in the sky.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
Kawhitstorm
Again why would they want Bobo when they have Taj/Niko under contract
Bobo? Don't think Bulls would be interested in Bobo.
BTW, Taj is also rumored to be on trading block.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
sasaint
Durant is not a "Spur" nor will he ever join the Spurs. This team has a shot at a championship this season while LMA and Tim are both playing very good basketball. I would not be willing to throw that away for some pie in the sky.
It is hard to tell where Durant will be going. However, if the Spurs destroy the Thunder this year, he could be so fed up with his team and pack his bags to go elsewhere. Where? Who knows!?
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
Bobo? Don't think Bulls would be interested in Bobo.
BTW, Taj is also rumored to be on trading block.
Bobby Portis is going to get Taj's minutes if he's traded. What the hell is Boris going to do in the Bulls.isolation offense? Who's going to protect the rim or grab defensive rebounds?
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
It is hard to tell where Durant will be going. However, if the Spurs destroy the Thunder this year, he could be so fed up with his team and pack his bags to go elsewhere. Where? Who knows!?
He's going to re-sign b/c he's a loyal servant & OKC controls the local media (he's very sensitive)
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
:lol lma for noah + soft gasol
:lol spurstalk.com
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
Gasol was a sexy option in his Laker years, and maybe even before he went to Chicago. Noah's a walking tombstone.
Any talk of blowing up the existing system 30 games in just for an outside shot at a one legged horse in Durant and maybe some 2017 versions of the 2015 parts we got this year is ridiculous. I get it - the Spurs spent too many offseasons being the bridesmaid, never the bride. Time to drop that mentality.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
Kawhitstorm
Bobby Portis is going to get Taj's minutes if he's traded. What the hell is Boris going to do in the Bulls.isolation offense? Who's going to protect the rim or grab defensive rebounds?
Bulls want to unload big contracts to go smaller. Portis may have a lot more upside than Gibson. So that's why Taj is on the block.
Lots of team all going small this season.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
2016 Free agency includes Durant. 2017 Free agency is ridiculously rich.
So if Gasol is available for 1-2 years, it gives maximum flexibility for the Spurs without a drop off in performance (with Gasol replacing LMA for 1-2 years).
2017 flexibility is important. Probably more important than the $20m/year LMA contract.
Let me get this straight. You want to entice a former Longhorn MAX FA by trading a former Longhorn MAX FA only months after signing him? I wouldn't be too jazzed to sign with a team that would dump a prized FA with no substance, legal, or overt attitude problems that quickly.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
exstatic
Let me get this straight. You want to entice a former Longhorn MAX FA by trading a former Longhorn MAX FA only months after signing him? I wouldn't be too jazzed to sign with a team that would dump a prized FA with no substance, legal, or overt attitude problems that quickly.
The Bulls apparently are dumping Gasol. Which makes you wonder since Gasol is playing well.
LMA should be dumped if he's not meeting expectations. I want to see him though play against the strong teams and see how he delivers. If he lays an egg, then this discussion has merit. So far Spurs have played enough strong teams to make any good evaluation as to whether LMA is worth it.
LMA definitely has talent. I'm just concerned about his mindset.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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ceperez
Bulls want to unload big contracts to go smaller. Portis may have a lot more upside than Gibson. So that's why Taj is on the block.
Lots of team all going small this season.
Again trading for Boris doesn't make sense since they are loaded with forwards like the Spurs. It doesn't make sense to trade Boris for Taj as far as the Spurs are concerned either. If the Bulls want to play small ball then Markeiff is available for peanuts
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
Kawhitstorm
Again trading for Boris doesn't make sense since they are loaded with forwards like the Spurs. It doesn't make sense to trade Boris for Taj as far as the Spurs are concerned either. If the Bulls want to play small ball then Markeiff is available for peanuts
I agree, it doesn't make sense. Some other poster brought that up.
I really don't care for Taj. He can't shoot and will get exposed come playoff time.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
I would like Gasol as a one year rental , but we have to start thinking of the fact that Duncan , Diaw, Manu , Butler, Bonner and West might be gone next year if we win it all.
So grabbing Gasol might make sense as to keep him from other teams and our Cupboard won't be so bare.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
Agloco
I don't honestly believe that the Spurs would do West like that.
I agree. The Spurs will not be trading West after what he gave up to join the team.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
SilverSpur
I would like Gasol as a one year rental , but we have to start thinking of the fact that Duncan , Diaw, Manu , Butler, Bonner and West might be gone next year if we win it all.
So grabbing Gasol might make sense as to keep him from other teams and our Cupboard won't be so bare.
If you want Gasol going forward, sign him next summer as a FA. No need to give up anything now.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
exstatic
If you want Gasol going forward, sign him next summer as a FA. No need to give up anything now.
I don't think there will be any cap room. It'll be the same problem as the last time Spurs tried to get Gasol.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
I don't think there will be any cap room. It'll be the same problem as the last time Spurs tried to get Gasol.
He'll be two years older, and we were barely outbid last time. I think the market for 36 YO PFs probably won't exceed the MLE.
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Re: Bulls looking to trade Gasol, Noah, and/or Gibson
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Originally Posted by
exstatic
He'll be two years older, and we were barely outbid last time. I think the market for 36 YO PFs probably won't exceed the MLE.
At some point, it would be nice for the Spurs to invest in a young big rather than constantly going for the retreads. Perhaps that is an investment we make in 2017. Or perhaps Cady fills the bill in a year or two...
To address SilverSpur, I expect Boris to return next season. Tbh, I expect Boris to play as long as his compatriot, Tony, plays, and possibly longer. As for Duncan, Manu and DWest, they will all probably retire if we win a championship this season. However, I would not be surprised to see Duncan return, and I would be even less so to see DWest return. If we fail to win the 'ship this season, the odds that Tim and/or DWest returns increase. Butler will be gone, and Bonner will do whatever Pop wants. There is no way we want to make a trade for Gasol this season, disrupting the team even more by getting rid of Diaw. No matter how similar the two skill sets appear, system and teammate familiarity and chemistry are important. This isn't a fantasy league.
Next year we might want to rent Gasol, but our situation is too fluid to predict. Besides, didn't Gasol state something to the effect that he preferred a city that had more in the way of "culture" than San Antonio has to offer?