Leonard, Duncan, Aldridge, Manu, and Parker getting some love.
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Leonard, Duncan, Aldridge, Manu, and Parker getting some love.
Ugh sucks that Leonard could miss out on starting because of Kobe's lifetime achievement spot.
And Manu, of course
^ Fixed my post. Can't believe I missed him.
Leonard isn't that far behind Griffin. How cool would it be to see him overtake him to start. Any case, nice to see him up there at least.
Since when is Kobe in the frontcourt?
Kahwi will be there.. So who cares if he starts?
Eh let Kobe have his send off. Kawhi will be there for the next decade.
True, and all star games are meaningless but Kawhi deserves that recognition. Regardless, he'll be there like you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbreiden83080
Probably since the NBA didn't want him taking a spot from Westbrook or Curry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seventyniner
I'm going to start writing in McGrady on my ballots if Bryant can get on this allstar team.
someone in authority for this site ought to pin a thread at the top of the list to remind us to vote for our Spur all-stars.
HMMM. "Someone in authority for this site" seems to be an oxymoron. Oh, well...whatever.
Why would Kawhi want to take part in a game where Luke Walton is going to be his coach and he's not supposed to play defense?
It just struck me that the total votes shown for the West far exceed those for the East. Are the Western Conference teams that much better at getting their fans to vote or are there way more players in the East getting just a few votes?
Interesting to see what they do with the Western Conference HC position if GS and the Spurs are still 1-2 on the cutoff date. Kerr was the HC for the West last year and they normally have the HC of the second place team coach rather than have someone coach in consecutive years. So what will they do if Kerr hasn't returned by that date? I imagine that Pop would just as soon have the week off, but it is something to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPURt
Cavs and/or OKC may very well have better records than us by that time. I expect the Spurs to start losing soon... a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
Cavs are in the Eastern Conference. And it was posed as a hypothetical dependent on the top two teams in the West remaining in the same position on the cutoff date.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
How the fuck is rondo above parker?
Pop will lobby for Walton to get the nod..old man wants no part of making the trip to Canada for 3 days of meaningless exhibition activities :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
the same way Kobe is leading in votes.Quote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
The LGBT community is really voting in large numbers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aztecfan03
Leonard is in the all star game this year-- it's a lock. If he doesn't get the votes, he'll be one of the first picks by the coaching staff.
Its bs how Kobe is going to get voted in when he doesn't deserve to be there but Kawhi will still get in. The spurs have the second best record in the West so they are guaranteed to get at least 1 all-star due to the coaches voting for the reserves. Kawhi gets in simply because he's the best player on the Spurs this year and the coaches know that. This effects LMA more than Kawhi since he's on the bubble of being an all-star this year and will probably be the one who gets snubbed due to Kobe taking that spot.
Kobe deserves it . It's the all star game not all NBA team. He is a star of the highest magnitude. The fans want to see him.
LMA won't make it not because of deserving legends like Tim/Dirk but Kirby.:lol I hope LMA goes beast mode like he did back in 2011 when he got snubbed. I'm also hoping Tony doesn't make it so he can keep playing w/ a chip on his shoulder instead of reverting into a content fat pig.:lol
They have to start using the Electoral college system to mitigate the Chinese votes, tbh. Kirby all of a sudden became a SF b/c he didn't want to split votes w/ Curry/Westbrook.:lol He announced his retirement a week before the voting opened to pick up all the sentimental votes while it's still top story, dude is a calculation diva.:lol
Kobe's receiving a single vote is pathetic.
Let's start the Shayne Whittington for all star starter campaign #whittingtonequalswinnington
He's got the worst PER in the game at -62.5 and we should celebrate that achievement
Disagree considering how many All-star game a player makes effects a player's legacy to some degree. There are guys who have gotten into the Hall of Fame simply because they had made several all-star game selections. Granted the game is watered down it still means something to be an all-star. You dilute it when you allow a scrub like Kobe to get in due to past achievements and not for what he's doing currently.Quote:
Originally Posted by steeledl
Also I don't think Kobe as popular with the fans as the media would like to make you believe. The Lakers are last in home attendance. Kobe couldn't even beat Duncan in an espn poll taken by casual fans on who was the better player. Only reason Kobe is getting all these votes is because he has a bunch of hardcore fans who are primarily in California that are willing to vote for him over a 100 times to make sure he gets in.
Interesting take, can't say I disagree. We put too much stock into this "honor".Quote:
Originally Posted by steeledl
Could it be because some idiots have been trashing Parker's reputation?Quote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
I can't stand Dwyane Wade, and I thought he was through 5 years ago. But I have to respect his work ethic and competitive spirit. How many knee surgeries has he had? Yet for a guy with his knees and at his age, he can still ball.
What is Rondo doing in that list??? :lol
:lmao
Should Garnett be there too?Quote:
Originally Posted by steeledl
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Originally Posted by daslicer
That is an issue and it should be addressed in the future but the construct of the all star game is what it is.
i think there is a growing contingency putting less and less stock into all star games and more into all NBA teams.
I didnt think this is going to be an issue for ever... We don't have generational players playing their last season regularly.... Duncan, Kobe, lebron... These guys are rare and maybe should be exceptions to the rule but then I see players like KYrie getting votes this year so maybe it will be an ongoing problem. I think this problem now is how popular the NBA has become and how easy it has become to vote..... Have a lot of mindless idiots who don't pay attention voting.
Not in my eyes but Garnett was never Kobe..... And has moved further and further away from being a star. I wouldn't be upset if he were, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
As long as statistics at any level have an impact on players' careers and fans' perceptions of them, it is a travesty for one of the currently poorest players at his position to go to the ASG and deprive a place on the roster to a player who is currently deserving.Quote:
Originally Posted by daslicer
The fact that he never put the work into to being a long range shooter has always made me lose respect for him..... I just can't understand that.Quote:
Originally Posted by sasaint
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Originally Posted by RD2191
Faggots like you, tbh.
Says who trash Manu all the time :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by steeledl
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Originally Posted by Diego20
I don't trash manu all the time. I dont think he is very good any more. I rarely post about it though. Fwiw, he is still one of our best options at backup wing.... I just wish that weren't the case.... But once again, I rarely talk about that.
Not sure why that would cause you to lose respect for Wade. He has his game, and it is obviously very effective. Not many players have the whole arsenal. But if he had developed a great 3, the guy would have been truly the unstoppable, complete package.Quote:
Originally Posted by steeledl
Yes you do, you even said Manu last good playoffs was in 2007 or something like that..Quote:
Originally Posted by steeledl
:lmao
1) he was playing with lebron and was no longer the primary ball handler/playmaker..... Having a reliable 3 point shot would have obviously made them fit better.Quote:
Originally Posted by sasaint
2) he was losing athleticism and you have to develop your game into an old man game at some point to prolong your career.
Yeah, cuz you're obviously a great poster. Your vast basketball knowledge really does wonders for this place. Fucking faggot.Quote:
Originally Posted by steeledl
Dude is one of the worst posters on ST. Gives Kool Bob a run for his money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diego20
He has often been a liability. Single handed costing us the series in the first series against the Heat. He has just been more bad than good most of the last 6 or 7 years in the playoffs. He costed us series he shouldn't have if he were as elite as most of you always suggested. Not to say he isn't an all time great spur and HOF due to his international success... He is just overrated in this forum and by most Spurs fans. You dudes acted like he was d wade or Kobe when that was just pure stupidity .Quote:
Originally Posted by Diego20
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Originally Posted by RD2191
:lmao go fuck a pig farm hand.
last Manu's good playoffs was in the last ring, faggot.Quote:
Originally Posted by steeledl
That team was so good he really couldn't have fucked it up... Like I said though, he has good moments just far too many bad for my liking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diego20
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by steeledl
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Originally Posted by Diego20
Great post but the rest of the NBA would laugh at you guys grandiose perception of him. I desire to have a level objectivity to my fandom that most of you are unable or unwilling to have.
Surprised that you didn't cite the infamous Dirk foul by Manu. Tbh, I don't have a score card; I couldn't tell you game-by-game, season-by-season or playoff-by-playoff when Manu has delivered more good than bad or vice versa. His entire career he has been a "Oh no, don't...Yes, great play!" kind of player. I have thrown more figurative shoes at my TV because of his bone-headed turnovers, but also leaped out of my seat more for some of his astounding passes or drives than I have any other player ever. As Pop says, "He's Manu Ginobili." Like Pop, we have learned to live with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by steeledl
How of yall have actually watched the kings/rondo this yr? :lol Hes been balling tbh
George Karl system stats tbh.. He made Lawson look like a PG :lol Ironically, both are team cancers & Rondo kills ball movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by siraulo23
Btw y'all MF's need to start voting. Instead of being on whataburger.com all day.
LMAlpha took a paycut, is sacrificing individual numbers, and is playing the best defense of his life. Get that man in there
Your mother is busy right now tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by steeledl
Well done... but you're still a fucking farm hand at the end of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
I am? Since when?Quote:
Originally Posted by steeledl
Would be hilarious if Kiwi beats Draymond Green again :lol
Matt Moore would kill himself tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
I can see the headline now, "David Blatt Breaks Rules to Coach Western Conference in All-Star Game"Quote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
Can you stop being a Spurs fan then? Root for the Mavs or something.Quote:
I expect the Spurs to start losing soon... a lot.
Agree. But Iguodala as guard? He's a SF...Quote:
Originally Posted by SPURt
Whoops... I brainfarted on that one. :lol Christmas break please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shastafarian
These sports leagues love their popularity contests.
Honestly, like what the fuck? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Seventyniner
Voting for individual players on nba.com is horrible, wtf did they do. Sorted alphabetically, you gotta scroll through hundreds of players to pick who you want to vote
fuck that, google vote 10 spurs takes 15 secs
steeledl shitting up another thread. Sucking Kobe's dick while trashing a Spur legend like Manu. No coincidence this retard is a Tony Parker player fan.
Minnesota got Kevin Love to start in the All Star game. If they can do it, we definitely should. Our fans are better aren't they. Starters are picked by the fans. We can do better. He's fourth. We can easily get him in, in appreciation. I'm gonna start voting everyday, make a thread, and try to get pounding the rock guys and 48 moh to post. Someone's gotta do it. Kawhi is too good and he deserves it. And it's so easy to vote. Alot of people are being lazy. kawhi has single handedly saved this team from being a playoff team that doesn't go far.
http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/12...ll-star-coach/Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
lol fagg:loltQuote:
Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016
Stop sniffing paint chips kids or you will end up like this guyQuote:
Originally Posted by steeledl
San Antonio is piss poor with player support tbh. Someone like TD should regularly get 500k in votes.every year.
Kawhi is having an MVP season and still trails Griffin.
:lmao
Empty seats, all star support etc. SA Is a piss poor sport city.
There's a difference between empty seats and unsold seats. When you have a successful franchise, ownership is able to get companies to pony up for seats so they have them for the biggest games. Means more may go unused. That's not to say they're not getting sold. Season tickets this year fully sold out.
Not to mention in the expensive seats, you can spend a lot more time in the lounges / boxes, especially for a RS game. Not sure how they're set up at the renovated AT&T center but on the few occasions I've scored my company's tickets at MSG (typically a Saturday afternoon meaningless college b-ball game), there are seats on the floor and a box under them at floor level. That's where you get all the free food and booze.
On voting, SA doesn't do all these silly campaigns that other teams do, either for ASG or end of season awards. Remember how teams like the Clippers sent care packages around for DJ DPOY?
Kawhi's a lock for the all star game as a coach's selection, so the voting stuff doesn't matter to me at all. Apolisoc, as a player fan, is naturally all caught up in popularity contests, media attention, & glitz. His persona is the diametrical opposite of Pop, Tim, Kawhi, Manu, etc... which is what makes him so annoying.
Well, you are partially correct. That is ONE of the things that make him so annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Bones
But there are so many others...
I knew it was too good to be true that he would actually stay away after saying he would ( kinda like him swearing that he would 'never post again' if Kawhi didn't score something like 29 points one night?) Kawhi didn't but Apo never blinked....just keeps coming back.
Most recently AGAIN announced he was leaving the forum, only to be back in a week!
It was kind of nice to have civil discourse in the games when he was gone, though. Pleasant break.
Griffin will be overtaken in votes, but i see Draymond or AD making the jump to the starting lineup..the next update will tell if Kawhi has a chance to make it straight out of direct fan votes..
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Originally Posted by EVAY
:boboThanks for setting me straight... I was only seeing part of the picture!
Yeah, I don't think Aldridge makes it, even if his play steadily improves and the Spurs' record remains gaudy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
Projected starters: Griffin, Durant, Bryant, Westbrook, Curry
Projected reserves (locks): Leonard, Green, Paul, Harden, Davis, Thompson
Final spot will go to one of: Nowitzki, Cousins, Gasol, Aldridge
Thompson shouldn't be a lock, both because he started slow and because he's nothing more than an (elite) glorified role player, but the consensus will foolishly be that they deserve three for their gaudy record.
Nowitzki is a beloved figure, Carlisle is head of the coaches association and will inevitably campaign for him and they're seen as a surprise team.
Cousins is a despised figure, but he's also the best of the four and they should hang on the fringes of the playoff race because of how shallow the conference is.
Gasol also started slow and is neck and neck with Thompson as the most overrated player in the league, but he's beloved all the same and they could easily have the best record of the three.
Aldridge hasn't been the Spurs' second best player, but that doesn't matter; this is about perception. He'll need their record to stay gaudy to have an outside chance.
Take away the name and go by just the stats and TD has been a border-line all star in recent years at least by conventional standards. As for this year, KL came on a bit late and Blake is a bigger brand name. You may not like that; but merely saying it comes down to player support is over stated at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Was it really just MN fans? Love had eye popping stats that run of the mill fans picked up on. KL over Blake is a selection for a more sophisticated fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by raybies
Griffin will be out for a significant amount of games. Kawhi will Grab the starters spot from him. He will make the team though because it is pretty aparent the coaches.care very little about All star games and treat it mostly for fans. He will will make it just like Durant made it last year despite missing so many games...but who knows thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Griffin-Dirk-Aldridge are the only real contenders for that spot.
It the spurs continue to win at the current pace, they should have 2 all stars imo
Kawhi is a lock, doesnt matter if he starts or not, on his resume he is gonna be a 1x time allstar. Aldridge needs to be the other player to represent the spurs tbh
Ive been all over facebook spamming for kiwi tbh
Would be nice to get 1 of the Big 3 in there with Kawhi, but Aldridge is probably more likely.
Merit has little to do with who starts, Griffin is more of a household name and casual fans probably account for the majority of the voting. Either way, they're both locks to be selected.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
I think coaches do care because they know the majority of players do.
The best players should always be selected. Games played and who's having a better season to date should matter more with the final few spots.
Cousins and Gasol both have a chance. Really, Cousins and Aldridge should get the final two spots and Thompson should be left off, but that's not happening.
I disagree. I dont think Durant should have made it last year. He hardly played pre All star. Hes a household name that the coachs could not.leave..other frontcourt players.were more deserving.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
I made my picks today and clicked the link that uses some algorithm to predict player stats should my picks get to the All Star Game. Pretty accurate:
http://s11.postimg.org/6ddmsni6b/Scr...6_46_10_PM.png
I could care less that he hardly played because I know that, had he played a lot more, he'd have been what he's been for years and is again this year: One of the top handful of players in the league. That should supersede good fortune.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
And thats why I dont think coaches care much about it. Do they care, sure..but only to an extent. You dont make the Allstar game if you dont play.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
You must be nutting yourself with how wellKobe is doing in the voting...Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
I dont care about votes. Were discussing how coaches value Allstar games.
where are you from? SA isn't LA, Laker fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
I think they do, but they probably have the same mentality I have, at least in terms of players who'd otherwise be locks.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
:lol @ the new votes.
As of Jan 7th 2016..
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Eastern Conference
Frontcourt
1. LeBron James (Cle) 636,388
2. Paul George (Ind) 457,554
3. Andre Drummond (Det) 261,158
4. Carmelo Anthony (NYK) 255,536
5. Pau Gasol (Chi) 209,006
6. Chris Bosh (Mia) 194,429
7. Kevin Love (Cle) 172,517
8. Hassan Whiteside (Mia) 168,549
9. Kristaps Porzingis (NYK) 160,170
10. Giannis Antetokounmpo (Mil) 48,768
11. Jonas Valanciunas (Tor) 30,023
12. Marcin Gortat (Was) 27,185
13. Joakim Noah (Chi) 23,121
14. DeMarre Carroll (Tor) 22,797
15. Paul Millsap (Atl) 21,625
Guards
1. Dwyane Wade (Mia) 562,558
2. Kyrie Irving (Cle) 271,094
3. Kyle Lowry (Tor) 242,276
4. Jimmy Butler (Chi) 220,429
5. John Wall (Was) 207,274
6. DeMar DeRozan (Tor) 170,539
7. Derrick Rose (Chi) 159,787
8. Jeremy Lin (Cha) 122,988
9. Isaiah Thomas (Bos) 87,452
10. Reggie Jackson (Det) 44,525
Western Conference
Frontcourt
1. Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,262,118
2. Kevin Durant (OKC) 616,096
3. Draymond Green (GS) 332,223
4. Kawhi Leonard (SA) 330,929
5. Blake Griffin (LAC) 298,212
6. Anthony Davis (NO) 261,491
7. Tim Duncan (SA) 228,995
8. Zaza Pachulia (Dal) 194,421
9. DeMarcus Cousins (Sac) 190,060
10. Enes Kanter (OKC) 183,468
11. LaMarcus Aldridge (SA) 124,404
12. Dwight Howard (Hou) 120,424
13. Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 99,681
14. DeAndre Jordan (LAC) 91,186
15. Harrison Barnes (GS) 82,427
Guards
1. Stephen Curry (GS) 925,789
2. Russell Westbrook (OKC) 479,512
3. Chris Paul (LAC) 268,672
4. Klay Thompson (GS) 267,602
5. James Harden (Hou) 249,877
6. Rajon Rondo (Sac) 120,767
7. Andre Iguodala (GS) 111,575
8. Manu Ginobili (SA) 100,602
9. Tony Parker (SA) 86,238
10. Damian Lillard (Por) 81,035