Brief Analysis of tonights game and what it means going forward.

- The spurs took this game seriously, no doubt so lets take the its only a regular season win BS out first.

- The spurs struggle in close games for a variety of reason but the biggest culprit today is Turnovers.

- The ball handlers today, particularly parker was so predictable that it allowed houston to defend the paint the way they did. Way too much predictable PnR/Pop with Tim and Lamarcus. Very little off ball screens for the starters. The offball screens today had zero convinctions and Purpose. Bigs shit the bed tonight, both the starters and the bench.

- The bench got fucked anally by terrence Jones and I expect Draymond Green who plays minutes with the bench to exploit the lack of toughness that second unit has.

- The Spurs crunchtime execution is soo poor because of one obvious reason. THEY DO NOT HAVE a crunch time identity. Unlike the older spurs that relied on Manu, Tim and to a lesser extent Tony..this team is still stuck between transitioning from Parker/Manu heavy crunchtime to allowing Leonard or LMA to make plays..Theyve been so poor the whole season.

- Pop has been shitting the bed. He has been soo poor in terms of outbounds playcalling..

- Until they bulild an identity in late game situations, they are going to conitune to be inconsistent on a possession by possesion basis.

- Disgusting how your best player is reduced to a bail out shooter.

- Green was actually awesome in the first half. But as evident LMA-Green just dont work on offense. It just does not. When the team is running through LMA green is basiclly a non factor since his Gravity is useless when LMA has the ball.

Please seek the help that was being offered to you by your family in your recent intervention.... we are all rooting for you here.

Glad OP is back. One of the great ones. :tu

Good analysis, but because it's apo, the usual suspects will hate on this thread.

Welcome back fam.

Crunch time identity is a good point. It's good when you have 3 veterans to bail you out but we should really put the ball in LMA and Kawhi's hands the most in the 4th. Parker shooting those bricks in the 4th is both disgusting and pretty fucking unbelievable. It's one thing when it's falling (clippers game) but he kept shooting when he clearly wasn't on. It's fucking unbelievable.

Thanks for the thoughts OP.

Didn't read.

Spurs lost on Christmas per par.

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

Welcome back fam.

Crunch time identity is a good point. It's good when you have 3 veterans to bail you out but we should really put the ball in LMA and Kawhi's hands the most in the 4th. Parker shooting those bricks in the 4th is both disgusting and pretty fucking unbelievable. It's one thing when it's falling (clippers game) but he kept shooting when he clearly wasn't on. It's fucking unbelievable.

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Leonard is at fault too. But I susupect there is closed door politics that keeps leonad and even LMA aggressive late.

For example Leonard and LMA was phenomenal against chicago only to be reduced to bail out shooters and tip ins late game. I hate to say it, but the big 3 does stagnate the ball when they are all playing together. Adlridge is still a fatass dong, but truth be told he has veey little fault in these late game situations. Its mostly Pop-Parker-Manu and sometimes Leonard who defers in certiain catches.

Spurs can eat a fat dick.

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Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016

Spurs can eat a fat dick.

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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

Leonard is at fault too. But I susupect there is closed door politics that keeps leonad and even LMA aggressive late.

For example Leonard and LMA was phenomenal against chicago only to be reduced to bail out shooters and tip ins late game. I hate to say it, but the big 3 does stagnate the ball when they are all playing together. Adlridge is still a fatass dong, but truth be told he has veey little fault in these late game situations. Its mostly Pop-Parker-Manu and sometimes Leonard who defers in certiain catches.

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I mean Kawhi needed to shoot that 3 when they were down by 4 with under 40 seconds left, he decided to take a contested 2, I get it that's his fault. I hate when he does that. But before the final minute it was all Parker and/or Duncan. No touches for LMA or Kawhi. It's disgusting. This is not 2005 anymore. I hate when Parker goes hero and Pop allows it there's simply no fucking explanation.

Agree in general. Kawhi was great IMO. LMA is still underwhelming though, IMO

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

I mean Kawhi needed to shoot that 3 when they were down by 4 with under 40 seconds left, he decided to take a contested 2, I get it that's his fault. I hate when he does that. But before the final minute it was all Parker and/or Duncan. No touches for LMA or Kawhi. It's disgusting. This is not 2005 anymore. I hate when Parker goes hero and Pop allows it there's simply no fucking explanation.

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Yeah that was one of the biggest culprits too. Leonard was reduced to bail out scorer in the 2nd Half. What can we do though...its on pop to figure out how to fix this kind of problems. I find it difficult.to believe he will since this has been a constant for the last year and half.

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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

Yeah that was one of the biggest culprits too. Leonard was reduced to bail out scorer in the 2nd Half. What can we do though...its on pop to figure out how to fix this kind of problems. I find it difficult.to believe he will since this has been a constant for the last year and half.

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It doesn't help that he can't design an end-game play aswell. We saw it with OKC, Bulls and now this game. That fucking play was designed for a left elbow LMA three, who fucking does that? Unreal

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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

- The spurs took this game seriously, no doubt so lets take the its only a regular season win BS out first.

- The spurs struggle in close games for a variety of reason but the biggest culprit today is Turnovers.

- The ball handlers today, particularly parker was so predictable that it allowed houston to defend the paint the way they did. Way too much predictable PnR/Pop with Tim and Lamarcus. Very little off ball screens for the starters. The offball screens today had zero convinctions and Purpose. Bigs shit the bed tonight, both the starters and the bench.

- The bench got fucked anally by terrence Jones and I expect Draymond Green who plays minutes with the bench to exploit the lack of toughness that second unit has.

- The Spurs crunchtime execution is soo poor because of one obvious reason. THEY DO NOT HAVE a crunch time identity. Unlike the older spurs that relied on Manu, Tim and to a lesser extent Tony..this team is still stuck between transitioning from Parker/Manu heavy crunchtime to allowing Leonard or LMA to make plays..Theyve been so poor the whole season.

- Pop has been shitting the bed. He has been soo poor in terms of outbounds playcalling..

- Until they bulild an identity in late game situations, they are going to conitune to be inconsistent on a possession by possesion basis.

- Disgusting how your best player is reduced to a bail out shooter.

- Green was actually awesome in the first half. But as evident LMA-Green just dont work on offense. It just does not. When the team is running through LMA green is basiclly a non factor since his Gravity is useless when LMA has the ball.

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Welcome back Apalisoc!
Thanks for this review.
I missed parts of the game, but from what I saw you have some good points.
Against a transition team you cannot turn the ball over, that is the majority of Houston's game.
Agree with you on crunchtime execution in close games. It has been lacking. It reminds me of the Bulls game. The Bulls defended both Kawhi/LMA well, but they don't have a 2 man game between them, or much chemistry, and on those occasions, Tim and Manu showed their age.

I feel like Lamarcus has not been the superstar we hoped in those cases, maybe Pop has changed his game so much with all these lobs, but a lot of them were expected and not quite open, thus they were deflected and actually not easy shots for LMA. Many passes were just off TBH. Some lobs were too high too wide, just off the mark.

Team had an identity problem early in the season, and at this point, they seemed better, but I really don't trust Danny to close out games or even deal with tight defenses.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Agree in general. Kawhi was great IMO. LMA is still underwhelming though, IMO

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LMA is a beta thats why hes underwhelming. Hes a weird dude. He puts in the effort most of the time but its also clear hes atrocious with Parker and Green. LMA does play well with Leonard and Duncan though.

Spurs is still a great team but if they cant figure out a way to give their best player betfer shots than bail out shots from Parker and if they cant figure out Green-LMA and Parker-LMA and what their identity is going to be late game they wil lose a lot of close games in the playoffs and that might be enough for OKC, LA and GSW to beat them.

Make no mistake the clippers will be a tough nut to crack and as well as the thunder. If they dont get a good cushion against these teams before 2 minute mark they are most likely losing.

Cavs, dubs, LA, OKC are consistent in late game situations. It might not be pretty but the players know what they need to do, they know their roles etc. This team does not.

The discouraging aspect to this game was the offensive execution. Not to mention the Hack-A-AssholeWhoPlaysNBABallYetRefusesToLearnToShootFree Throws backfired. Spurs out rebounded, out assisted, had fewer turnovers, and only three more fouls with all the intentional fouling. Without seeing a score, those categories usually are to the winners advantage.

What really stings is seeing Harden prayers fall in back to back plays. Tonight was ass and the biggest dingleberries were Danny, Tony, Manu, and West. Tim and Kawhi tried, but the rest of the team emptied their bowels all over each other's chests.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Welcome back Apalisoc!
Thanks for this review.
I missed parts of the game, but from what I saw you have some good points.
Against a transition team you cannot turn the ball over, that is the majority of Houston's game.
Agree with you on crunchtime execution in close games. It has been lacking. It reminds me of the Bulls game. The Bulls defended both Kawhi/LMA well, but they don't have a 2 man game between them, or much chemistry, and on those occasions, Tim and Manu showed their age.

I feel like Lamarcus has not been the superstar we hoped in those cases, maybe Pop has changed his game so much with all these lobs, but a lot of them were expected and not quite open, thus they were deflected and actually not easy shots for LMA. Many passes were just off TBH. Some lobs were too high too wide, just off the mark.

Team had an identity problem early in the season, and at this point, they seemed better, but I really don't trust Danny to close out games or even deal with tight defenses.

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Lamarcus and Kawhi actually do pretty well together. Surprisngly. The spurs just dont feel like its a viable option. They are predicable in crunch time. Very predictable.

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

I mean Kawhi needed to shoot that 3 when they were down by 4 with under 40 seconds left, he decided to take a contested 2, I get it that's his fault. I hate when he does that. But before the final minute it was all Parker and/or Duncan. No touches for LMA or Kawhi. It's disgusting. This is not 2005 anymore. I hate when Parker goes hero and Pop allows it there's simply no fucking explanation.

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Kawhi stepped in for a 2 b/c Ariza was all over him & wouldn't let him shoot a 3. Pop fuckin' drew up an isolation play when he should have called a quick hitter.:toast

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Kawhi stepped in for a 2 b/c Ariza was all over him & wouldn't let him shoot a 3. Pop fuckin' drew up an isolation play when he should have called a quick hitter.:toast

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Idk if we're talking about the same play but he had an open 3 off a screen handoff from Tim iirc, they were coming from a stop, he needed to shoot that.

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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

Lamarcus and Kawhi actually do pretty well together. Surprisngly. The spurs just dont feel like its a viable option. They are predicable in crunch time. Very predictable.

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Last I checked most team have predictable crunch time plays i.e. the Terry/Dirk PnP. It's whether or not the defense can stop it that matters. I've yet to see Kawhi/LMA in a PnR/PnP play, it's fuckin' Danny/LMA or Tim/Porker:bang

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Originally Posted by SPURt

The discouraging aspect to this game was the offensive execution. Not to mention the Hack-A-AssholeWhoPlaysNBABallYetRefusesToLearnToShootFree Throws backfired. Spurs out rebounded, out assisted, had fewer turnovers, and only three more fouls with all the intentional fouling. Without seeing a score, those categories usually are to the winners advantage.

What really stings is seeing Harden prayers fall in back to back plays. Tonight was ass and the biggest dingleberries were Danny, Tony, Manu, and West. Tim and Kawhi tried, but the rest of the team emptied their bowels all over each other's chests.

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Pop is senile. Hes doing a great job though tbh overall. :lol..hes just a stubborn motherfucker..hes.probably not the best coach in the league anymore.

He gets really cute at times..still a great coach. Just needs to fix his guys and how they play late game.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Welcome back Apalisoc!
Thanks for this review.
I missed parts of the game, but from what I saw you have some good points.
Against a transition team you cannot turn the ball over, that is the majority of Houston's game.
Agree with you on crunchtime execution in close games. It has been lacking. It reminds me of the Bulls game. The Bulls defended both Kawhi/LMA well, but they don't have a 2 man game between them, or much chemistry, and on those occasions, Tim and Manu showed their age.

I feel like Lamarcus has not been the superstar we hoped in those cases, maybe Pop has changed his game so much with all these lobs, but a lot of them were expected and not quite open, thus they were deflected and actually not easy shots for LMA. Many passes were just off TBH. Some lobs were too high too wide, just off the mark.

Team had an identity problem early in the season, and at this point, they seemed better, but I really don't trust Danny to close out games or even deal with tight defenses.

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damn, 2 faced as fuck on the internet. You were just hatin on this dude when he left now you are excited he is back....

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Last I checked most team have predictable crunch time plays i.e. the Terry/Dirk PnP. It's whether or not the defense can stop it that matters. I've yet to see Kawhi/LMA in a PnR/PnP play, it's fuckin' Danny/LMA or Tim/Porker:bang

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Oh thats what I meant by predicable. Most teams run the same sets over and over. The point being is tha the spurs are deep and there is no reason to play the same way the other teams play.

That Danny-LMA and Tim-Pakrer two man games has to die already
..Jesus

Happy Holidays, apo..hope you're back for good, bro, this place is too corny and vanilla without you, G..

Hope everything is good with the family..