A brief analysis of why the offense stagnates at its current state.

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Originally Posted by TrainOfThought5

We've been spoiled with TD and splitter and baynes all these years. But youre right... those picks are shit. Not sure if hes halfassing because its the regular season, or if hes soft.

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I think he was getting called for moving screens a whole lot very early in the season so he fakes them to avoid the foul call. At this point, it's probably bad habits. That is the bad aspect of not developing the talent ourselves. You get older guys, they already have their game and bad habits that are tough to break.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

I watched the sections they played again. On a second look the game was interesting for the Pop experiments. Anderson didn't struggle as much as I remember and he was aggressive, which he needs to be to develop. He just made a couple of mistakes in a row and it was complicated by the Nuggets making a run with a series if consecutive Pnr between Nelson and Jokic. Sad to say Jokic did a number on Boban to finish the game scoring consecutively like4-5 Times in a row. Patty is poor defending PnR and needs a lot if help. Seems like Jokic figured Boban out. Kyle distracted from that bc Pop is really strict on him and Kyle himself git frustrated. Of anyone else in the team, he's really the youngster that is still developing and will have to learn through episodes like that.

But the whole point is that Pop experimented with combining the wings. He had Kawhi/Simmons to start followed by Kyle/Danny. Then he had Kyle/Simmons. All of these with different big men obviously. The whole game Simmons was at SG, Kyle at SF. I think all pairings worked really well for the most part. Kyle's traveling call at the end was questionable. He dribbled and wasn't pivoting. Can't get angry at him being aggressive and making a mistake. His going under a screen on Barton was the egregious mistake, and he dribbled into a trap bc he tried to run the PnR w/ LMA and was indecisive. He needs to speed up the pass and cutters need to show to help. It will happen as he starts to make reads out of side PnR a feature of the Spurs offense.

I liked that Pops combinations had everyone at their natural positions. I though all guys worked well with each other.

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I'll have to re-watch the end, but were they switching on Jokic and the pnr ball handler?

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

POP got Ray in the game to talk to Kyle about the shot clock violation. It wasn't even for Ray' s benefit. Now that was concerning, not for Kyle, but for Ray. Pop cares about coaching Kyle, and will be super strict I suspect bc he has upside and it will help him improve. It makes sense if he figures to be in the Spurs rotation in the future as well.

Ray apparently has completely fallen out and us on the opposite spectrum. POP not going at him bc he has no upside and is limited, it would seem. I wonder if he's still in their plans.

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There are zero odds that Ray McCallum salvaging his Spurs career. Players are put in the game to at least show what they can do, Ray was put in to serve an example to Anderson. Pop had no interest in what Ray could do in the court. His only interest was to humiliate Anderson. To do that, he uses Ray. In short, it not only humiliates Anderson but even worse, what does it say about Ray?

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Originally Posted by TrainOfThought5

We've been spoiled with TD and splitter and baynes all these years. But youre right... those picks are shit. Not sure if hes halfassing because its the regular season, or if hes soft.

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LMA is clueless. The reason why you work on the picks is that you need to get the timing right.

Compare LMA to David West. West comes in and knows that even that he's a Vet, is happy to learn new things.

So West ends up in the Nuggets with 6 assists. LMA has zero assists. LMA just stands around in the elbow supposedly waiting for a pass. Then when he gets it, he doesn't just catch and shoot. He pump fakes!!!

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Originally Posted by ceperez

There are zero odds that Ray McCallum salvaging his Spurs career. Players are put in the game to at least show what they can do, Ray was put in to serve an example to Anderson. Pop had no interest in what Ray could do in the court. His only interest was to humiliate Anderson. To do that, he uses Ray. In short, it not only humiliates Anderson but even worse, what does it say about Ray?

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McCallum is the third string point guard in his first season with the Spurs. He can't expect to play meaningful minutes while Parker and Mills are available. I won't be surprised if he is assigned to Austin again.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

McCallum is the third string point guard in his first season with the Spurs. He can't expect to play meaningful minutes while Parker and Mills are available. I won't be surprised if he is assigned to Austin again.

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If PATFO has any intention of developing him, you would see some exposure come garbage time. He can't even sniff the floor in garbage time. He's pretty much done.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

If PATFO has any intention of developing him, you would see some exposure come garbage time. He can't even sniff the floor in garbage time. He's pretty much done.

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OK, coach.

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Originally Posted by spurs10

I'll have to re-watch the end, but were they switching on Jokic and the pnr ball handler?

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It was just a simple PnR but I guess Patty was not really bothering the pass and Jokic was screening Patty easy. Boban had to backtrack in the paint and Jokic had easy jump hooks and floaters. I say Jokic figured him out bc on post up one on one like he was doing in the first half Boban blocked him and really made it difficult. But on the PnR, Boban was giving space backtracking and Jokic is skilled enough to finish with an array of hooks. After Pop put West in the PnR (it was with Foye, not Nelson) cooled down.

Starting to think ceperez is one the most effective trolls in this sites history.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

McCallum is the third string point guard in his first season with the Spurs. He can't expect to play meaningful minutes while Parker and Mills are available. I won't be surprised if he is assigned to Austin again.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

If PATFO has any intention of developing him, you would see some exposure come garbage time. He can't even sniff the floor in garbage time. He's pretty much done.

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Originally Posted by PATFO

SPURS ASSIGN RAY McCALLUM TO AUSTIN SPURS

SAN ANTONIO (Dec. 27, 2015) – The San Antonio Spurs today announced that they have assigned guard Ray McCallum to the Austin Spurs of the NBA Development League.
McCallum, 6-3/190, is averaging 1.6 points in 7.1 minutes in 13 appearances with San Antonio this season. The assignment marks McCallum’s third stint with the Austin Spurs, where he has averaged 16.5 points, 3.8 rebounds and 4.5 assists in 37.8 minutes in four total appearances this season.

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http://austin.dleague.nba.com/news/s...ustin-spurs-2/

The Toros actually play in the ATT Center Tuesday. I think Ray and maybe another Spur may be assigned for that if they sit out the Spurs game Monday.

#coachperez

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

It was just a simple PnR but I guess Patty was not really bothering the pass and Jokic was screening Patty easy. Boban had to backtrack in the paint and Jokic had easy jump hooks and floaters. I say Jokic figured him out bc on post up one on one like he was doing in the first half Boban blocked him and really made it difficult. But on the PnR, Boban was giving space backtracking and Jokic is skilled enough to finish with an array of hooks. After Pop put West in the PnR (it was with Foye, not Nelson) cooled down.

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Yes Foye. At the time I thought Patty was switching to Jokic and getting torched by his size. This will certain be looked at on film and Boban can give less space. Jokic is a skilled player, I was impressed with him. He was off the bench I believe.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

http://austin.dleague.nba.com/news/s...ustin-spurs-2/

The Toros actually play in the ATT Center Tuesday. I think Ray and maybe another Spur may be assigned for that if they sit out the Spurs game Monday.

#coachperez

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I'd like Kyle to go. He could really use playing time. Subpar competition, yes. But let him have some post ups and let him run the offense for a few minutes, hone that decision making of his.

I am not strictly firm on Ray. We have seen little of him, it may very well be that Anderson was due to get attention from Pop since he was the one "banished" last season. Simmons can play and even very early it seemed questionable to me that dleague would help him at all bc he had already been there for 2 years. At that point I thought, he could either make it or not, but more development time was unnecessary.

I would have thought the same about Ray (2 year player with NBA minutes), but he might just find himself like Kyle last season. Kyle wasn't going to figure to be in the rotation in a stacked team at all and yet as a young player, he still needed playing time to improve, so dleague most of the season it was. Ray is not a rookie but he's still young and is in a similar boat as Kyle last season, if he's not going to be in the rotation, dleague minutes it is. That way Pop can focus his attention on the guys that are really in the rotation, LMA integration, and a couple of projects in Boban and Kyle who have upside and may really need to be relied upon next season, so they need Pop's attention and time now.

Ray' s future with the team is a mystery.

I think LMA needs to stop hesitating and looking for the next pass when he is clearly open. All too often this year, he seems to catch the ball, look to pass, and when no one is open, he starts to post up with no intention of shooting. He then puts his back to the basket, takes a dribble, looks to pass again and then ends up pump-faking a shot and throwing up a wild miss.

In the 4th quarter against Houston, he was standing around watching the offense instead of being an active part of it. Tim had to be the aggressor when it is obvious that's what the coaching staff wants LMA to do. He should be the bigger threat on O at this point.

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Originally Posted by tmtcsc

I think LMA needs to stop hesitating and looking for the next pass when he is clearly open. All too often this year, he seems to catch the ball, look to pass, and when no one is open, he starts to post up with no intention of shooting. He then puts his back to the basket, takes a dribble, looks to pass again and then ends up pump-faking a shot and throwing up a wild miss.

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Old habit dies hard, he is used to making his move then passing the ball when he's doubled. He is still not comfortable w/ the idea of "good to great" thus he is having to hold the ball & assess about his next move (instead of making quick reads) which is disrupting his rhythm. Repetition is the only way to improve his reads just like QBs & eventually he will start making quick decisions.:toast

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Old habit dies hard, he is used to making his move then passing the ball when he's doubled. He is still not comfortable w/ the idea of "good to great" thus he is having to hold the ball & assess about his next move (instead of making quick reads) which is disrupting his rhythm. Repetition is the only way to improve his reads just like QBs & eventually he will start making quick decisions.:toast

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If David West can figure it out (see game against Nuggets), then LMA have better figure it out pronto.

If LMA can't then I don't know if the rules allow the Spurs to send him to the D-league!

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Originally Posted by spurs10

Yes Foye. At the time I thought Patty was switching to Jokic and getting torched by his size. This will certain be looked at on film and Boban can give less space. Jokic is a skilled player, I was impressed with him. He was off the bench I believe.

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It's difficult to ICE the PnR when Patty isn't fighting the screener thus Boban had no choice but to backtrack so he can protect the rim except Jokic is an offensive skilled big man & took advantage. Boban would be fine sagging off on a less skilled big men such as Capela/Zaza.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

If David West can figure it out (see game against Nuggets), then LMA have better figure it out pronto.

If LMA can't then I don't know if the rules allow the Spurs to send him to the D-league!

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David West has always been a very good passer who played off other stars (Cp3/Granger/Paul George) as opposed to being the man like LMA who drew double teams.

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Originally Posted by tmtcsc

I think LMA needs to stop hesitating and looking for the next pass when he is clearly open. All too often this year, he seems to catch the ball, look to pass, and when no one is open, he starts to post up with no intention of shooting. He then puts his back to the basket, takes a dribble, looks to pass again and then ends up pump-faking a shot and throwing up a wild miss.

In the 4th quarter against Houston, he was standing around watching the offense instead of being an active part of it. Tim had to be the aggressor when it is obvious that's what the coaching staff wants LMA to do. He should be the bigger threat on O at this point.

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He's hesitating not only in passing but shooting the ball. Those hesitations are killer because they do nothing but reset the offense. The Spurs cannot afford that since they typically spend a lot of time in offense passing the ball. This accounts for the statistically low pace of the Spurs.

He is getting paid $20/million a year. If he's still clueless as to what his role is, then he's much dumber a player that I had actually thought.

I'd like to see LA be a little more selfish. Shoot the good shot and not necessarily the great shot. His 'good' shots are pretty money. Tim is more often than not, prepared to rebound. I think Tim came in this year thinking his job was to defend and rebound.

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Originally Posted by tmtcsc

I'd like to see LA be a little more selfish. Shoot the good shot and not necessarily the great shot. His 'good' shots are pretty money. Tim is more often than not, prepared to rebound. I think Tim came in this year thinking his job was to defend and rebound.

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You could say that about the Spurs as a whole. They are getting a little too pass happy these days. They need to shoot without hesitation if theyre open.

I like what Bird said about shooting when he was coach of Pacers. If youre open and youre a shooter, ALWAYS shoot it but also if youre going to do that you have to shoot 500 baskets a day. And thats coming from someone who was an excellent passer.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

He's hesitating not only in passing but shooting the ball. Those hesitations are killer because they do nothing but reset the offense. The Spurs cannot afford that since they typically spend a lot of time in offense passing the ball. This accounts for the statistically low pace of the Spurs.

He is getting paid $20/million a year. If he's still clueless as to what his role is, then he's much dumber a player that I had actually thought.

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:lol you accusing anyone of being dumb

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Originally Posted by ceperez

He's hesitating not only in passing but shooting the ball. Those hesitations are killer because they do nothing but reset the offense. The Spurs cannot afford that since they typically spend a lot of time in offense passing the ball. This accounts for the statistically low pace of the Spurs.

He is getting paid $20/million a year. If he's still clueless as to what his role is, then he's much dumber a player that I had actually thought.

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:lol you accusing anyone of being dumb

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Originally Posted by benefactor

:lol you accusing anyone of being dumb

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Do you have a reading level higher than grade 2?

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Originally Posted by ceperez

Do you have a reading level higher than grade 2?

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Don't know. How are Kori and the kiddos? I'm sure they are getting pretty big by now.