More Boban, Less D-Worst

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Originally Posted by 100%duncan

:lol jeez

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Boban rules

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Originally Posted by objective

Pop already has a track record of playing guys because of respect over results. Don't forget that in Splitter's rookie year, well into it, that when Pop was asked why he wouldn't play splitter it was because it "wouldn't be fair" to the other bigs who had been there even though anyone could see that the other non-Duncan bigs were trash and wouldn't be able to cut it.

Sure enough after brutal performances in the first half of the series against Memphis, Pop finally realized that game mattered more, and he went to splitter. But it was too late, Splitter hadn't played with Duncan at all and had no chemistry sharing the court with him. Or gas for hard playoff games.

Maybe Pop has learned, but West sure does look bad to the eye way more than a player safe in the rotation should.

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Yep. Boban getting the 2011 Tiago treatment. Aldridge is Duncan, Duncan is McDyess. The Turd Towers are the Turd Towers, though Diaw over Bonner is an upgrade down low but worse from the perimeter. West isn't that much better than Blair on either end.

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Originally Posted by Russo21

We all love Boban but the staff have to worry about how much playing time they give him due to his unbelievably massive size, humans just aren't meant to be that big lol and injuries can pop up, gotta try keep his body healthy at the same time as giving him more time in the rotation. I love watching him play

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Yes, that is the correct assessment of the situation. Why play Boban and risk injury. He's developing quite fine at his current pace.

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Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016

Yep. Boban getting the 2011 Tiago treatment. Aldridge is Duncan, Duncan is McDyess. The Turd Towers are the Turd Towers, though Diaw over Bonner is an upgrade down low but worse from the perimeter. West isn't that much better than Blair on either end.

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West passing has developed well. I can't say so for "Richard Jefferson 2.0" (aka LMA).

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Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016

Yep. Boban getting the 2011 Tiago treatment. Aldridge is Duncan, Duncan is McDyess. The Turd Towers are the Turd Towers, though Diaw over Bonner is an upgrade down low but worse from the perimeter. West isn't that much better than Blair on either end.

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West passing has developed well. I can't say so for "Richard Jefferson 2.0" (aka LMA).

Which incidentally is my biggest surprise of this season. That LMA is RJ 2.0.

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Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016

An "enforcer" doesn't just let his man waltz in for easy uncontested layups without putting up a fight. I don't care how many 12 footers West makes, he's a huge liability

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I'll try to help you understand their defensive concept. Once a defender has reached a certain point, all the spurs bigs are expected to go hands up or pull off. They preach not to give fouls. That's why they lead the NBA on a regular basis in fouls given. More often than not, you get a foul down low as the NBA is geared towards offense. Once you're beat, you're beat. Don't make it worse with a needless foul. Getting in the penalty is a nightmare for good defenses. Tim Duncan, one of the best defenders the past couple decades, has been doing it for years.

People see what they want to see I guess.

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Originally Posted by Mnky

I'll try to help you understand their defensive concept. Once a defender has reached a certain point, all the spurs bigs are expected to go hands up or pull off. They preach not to give fouls. That's why they lead the NBA on a regular basis in fouls given. More often than not, you get a foul down low as the NBA is geared towards offense. Once you're beat, you're beat. Don't make it worse with a needless foul. Getting in the penalty is a nightmare for good defenses. Tim Duncan, one of the best defenders the past couple decades, has been doing it for years.

People see what they want to see I guess.

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Good post. That's how the Spurs play defense.

David West has been solid this season. Not sure what Boban's conditioning is like and big guys like him do tend to have injury issues so the staff may just be a little more cautious in with his minutes. Also as exciting as Boban has been he isn't perfect and still has things to improve on.

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Originally Posted by illusioNtEk

Dude let millions off the table just to play for the Spurs.... Let D West have his 1 year

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If Bomar's better than West, you don't waste the end of Duncan's career because David fucking West took less money. That said, I think West has been playing well and Pop's found a good lineup to put him in.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

If Bomar's better than West, you don't waste the end of Duncan's career because David fucking West took less money. That said, I think West has been playing well and Pop's found a good lineup to put him in.

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The guy who isn't playing well is LaMarcus f**cking Aldridge. At least West has learned how to pass, LMA is completely one dimensional.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Love Boban, but I'd rather go with West. He started off slow here but he's been nothing but a (+) in recent weeks.

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West was horrible as first and that had everything to do with stamina. But he is like 4th on the Spurs in PER. West has done quite well the past two weeks.

I rather not the Spurs play Boban more because his price tag will just keep going north for the next season. Looks like the Spurs will have to use the full MLE to retain him. Good thing the Spurs wrapped up Simmons for the cheap for 3 years.

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Originally Posted by ceperez

West passing has developed well. I can't say so for "Richard Jefferson 2.0" (aka LMA).

Which incidentally is my biggest surprise of this season. That LMA is RJ 2.0.

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LMA problem is he just enjoying his family too much right now. You can tell he gained some weight since the Spurs signed him and he moved back to SA. As a fan and a family man myself, I'll give him that. But his New Year's resolution should be getting back into tip top playing shape and be ready for the playoff's.

The Rockets game was a game the Spurs could have use the OLD LMA. LMA has owned Houston in the past, but he wasn't as aggressive this past Friday. Probably too much turkey and liquor the day before.

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Originally Posted by Cowboys_Wear_Spurs

LMA problem is he just enjoying his family too much right now. You can tell he gained some weight since the Spurs signed him and he moved back to SA. As a fan and a family man myself, I'll give him that. But his New Year's resolution should be getting back into tip top playing shape and be ready for the playoff's.

The Rockets game was a game the Spurs could have use the OLD LMA. LMA has owned Houston in the past, but he wasn't as aggressive this past Friday. Probably too much turkey and liquor the day before.

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The Christmas game was excusable, a lot of players (not just the Spurs) played terrible.

Yet, LMA is averaging 11.6 points a game in the last 5 games. He scored the most points (18) against Houston. So not only coasted in Christmas, he's been coasting for 5 straight games.

No wonder Pop went ballistic yesterday.

He replaced Jeff Fuckin' Ayres:lol; the frontline has been upgraded from the 2014 team

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Originally Posted by ceperez

The Christmas game was excusable, a lot of players (not just the Spurs) played terrible.

Yet, LMA is averaging 11.6 points a game in the last 5 games. He scored the most points (18) against Houston. So not only coasted in Christmas, he's been coasting for 5 straight games.

No wonder Pop went ballistic yesterday.

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I missed the end of the 1st half. Why did Pop go ballistic? Was it because of f LMA?

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Originally Posted by sasaint

I missed the end of the 1st half. Why did Pop go ballistic? Was it because of f LMA?

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Because the refs were calling everything against the Spurs on one end and letting the Twolves get away with murder on the other. First it was the Phantom foul on Kawhi which Lavine drove by him and the replayed showed Kawhi didn't even touch him but the refs called a foul. Then it was the foul on Diaw when he got all ball on the block but they called a foul anyways just because the player threw his body into Diaw (even Diaw was arguing that call with the refs). Then after LMA bad pass, KG just grabbed LMA to move him off the block as LMA I guess wanted to redeem himself and had great position on him. The refs were calling everything the Wolves way in the 1st half and Pop just had enough of it.

They starting calling an even game in the 2nd half.

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Originally Posted by sasaint

I missed the end of the 1st half. Why did Pop go ballistic? Was it because of f LMA?

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Yes. The bitch Garnett was being, well Garnett and trying to rough up LMA on the block and talk his usual shit. They didn't call a foul (the female ref blew last night) and Pop went off. Probably just to show LMA that he has his back...

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Originally Posted by Mnky

I'll try to help you understand their defensive concept. Once a defender has reached a certain point, all the spurs bigs are expected to go hands up or pull off. They preach not to give fouls. That's why they lead the NBA on a regular basis in fouls given. More often than not, you get a foul down low as the NBA is geared towards offense. Once you're beat, you're beat. Don't make it worse with a needless foul. Getting in the penalty is a nightmare for good defenses. Tim Duncan, one of the best defenders the past couple decades, has been doing it for years.

People see what they want to see I guess.

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Can you tell me how you see the situation with Anderson? Of our two new wings, he impacts the defensive end the most. His length is very disruptive and he has good instincts and good hands. He's capable of making defensive plays without fouling and negotiates screens very well, he has good footwork.

I'll say this for Simmons, he's dedicated and has improved his awareness and help instincts. His athleticism helps him stay in front of guards, and he's strong enough that if he gets a switch, he will offer resistance and not get backed down. I like him, but he fouls way too much. He doesn't go over or under screens well bc he's too wild, with too much energy pushing or getting arm tangled with the ball handler or he's pushed through screens. For a guy playing so few minutes, he fouls too much. It may be something he can cut down with more experience, but some guys are just foul prone. I am unsure on Simmons yet.

I like what Boban has done but saying D West sucks is just silly.

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Originally Posted by houston spurs fan

Yes. The bitch Garnett was being, well Garnett and trying to rough up LMA on the block and talk his usual shit. They didn't call a foul (the female ref blew last night) and Pop went off. Probably just to show LMA that he has his back...

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Not sure about that. The way we played last night, I thought it was to light a fire under our lackadaisical butts. I saw the game, but I only saw a replay of Pop's getting tossed.

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Originally Posted by Dre_7

I like what Boban has done but saying D West sucks is just silly.

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I really like how booth guys are working out, individually. I am not wild about the DWest/Boris combo, but the stats indicate they are a better pairing than meets my eye test. Can't understand the vitriol directed toward West at all.

West is great. If anything, Bobo should try harder on practice so Pop doesn't have to play his fat ass too much (to lose weight)

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Originally Posted by sasaint

I really like how booth guys are working out, individually. I am not wild about the DWest/Boris combo, but the stats indicate they are a better pairing than meets my eye test. Can't understand the vitriol directed toward West at all.

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Me neither at this point. He was very poor on defense to start and I guess first impressions stick. I was really critical of him at the beginning, but he's improved A LOT, and with Boban now, you have someone else to present a problem for the opponent. There will be matchups that will dominate West bc he's played out of position, but it wasn't last game, that's for sure.