Re: Inside-Out vs Small Ball
It's going to be quite a show!:bobo
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Spurtacular
AGAIN; LMA was the crown jewel of his free agency class. The Spurs knew he had interest and accordingly pursued him. Everything else was never more than a plan b. I'm sorry if you don't or can't get that.
It doesn't work that way. Maybe in NBA2K, not real life.
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ceperez
Spurs offense works by reacting to the defense, by contrast Dubs offense doesn't care what the defense is.
The Spurs team that won #5 was playing against the best defense at the time and just blew away the opponent.
The best a defense can do is make the opponent take uncomfortable shots and force mistakes. Unfortunately an offense that is clicking just can't be stopped. The only way to win is to score more points.
So if Dubs play well and Spurs also play well, Dubs win.
However, if Dubs play bad and Spurs also play bad, Spurs win. (See Spurs beat down of Mavs)
Spurs will win if they bring in the nasty. (See Dubs loss to Pistons)
West on Green, that'll be key. Have Green focus on out toughing West instead on focusing on the game.
i've been looking this up, and as far as i can tell, the cavs' defense was ranked below top 10 in 2014. am i missing something?
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This is a little off topic but as I am watching the Dubs beat up the Bulls, I wonder who we will use to guard Livingston off the bench? He's too tall for Patty. We'll have to put Manu, Simmons or Kyle on him. Dubs are using his size on Chicago's undersized backup guards, and posting him up a ton.
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Originally Posted by
Mnky
It doesn't work that way. Maybe in NBA2K, not real life.
That's exactly how it worked, dude. Spurs even didn't extend Kawhi in advance because they saw the writing on the wall; and the Spurs had never been a major player in the FA market to that point.
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BillMc
This is a little off topic but as I am watching the Dubs beat up the Bulls, I wonder who we will use to guard Livingston off the bench? He's too tall for Patty. We'll have to put Manu, Simmons or Kyle on him. Dubs are using his size on Chicago's undersized backup guards, and posting him up a ton.
Patty is near unplayable against the Clippers since Austin Rivers owns him.
I expect Livingston will be a problem. Like you I think one of Manu/Simmons/Kyle will have to be on him and if Pop is experiment mode, maybe Simmons/Kyle specially will see time. I don't know what you do with Patty. By the way, let Kyle post him up and give him some of his own medicine. :lol
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
Spurs offense works by reacting to the defense, by contrast Dubs offense doesn't care what the defense is.
The Spurs team that won #5 was playing against the best defense at the time and just blew away the opponent.
The best a defense can do is make the opponent take uncomfortable shots and force mistakes. Unfortunately an offense that is clicking just can't be stopped. The only way to win is to score more points.
So if Dubs play well and Spurs also play well, Dubs win.
However, if Dubs play bad and Spurs also play bad, Spurs win. (See Spurs beat down of Mavs)
Spurs will win if they bring in the nasty. (See Dubs loss to Pistons)
West on Green, that'll be key. Have Green focus on out toughing West instead on focusing on the game.
Basically the Warriors will cuck you if the conditions are equal for both teams. The Spurs only win if the Dubs play like shit.
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SAGirl
Patty is near unplayable against the Clippers since Austin Rivers owns him.
I expect Livingston will be a problem. Like you I think one of Manu/Simmons/Kyle will have to be on him and if Pop is experiment mode, maybe Simmons/Kyle specially will see time. I don't know what you do with Patty. By the way, let Kyle post him up and give him some of his own medicine. :lol
Watching the Bulls vs Dubs game. Livingston took every opportunity to post up the bulls smaller guards.
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Originally Posted by
SAGirl
Patty is near unplayable against the Clippers since Austin Rivers owns him.
I expect Livingston will be a problem. Like you I think one of Manu/Simmons/Kyle will have to be on him and if Pop is experiment mode, maybe Simmons/Kyle specially will see time. I don't know what you do with Patty. By the way, let Kyle post him up and give him some of his own medicine. :lol
Amen! :toast And let Kyle draw those fouls too....
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BillMc
Amen! :toast And let Kyle draw those fouls too....
that fouls? gs players can hack all the time without any whistle, looks like OKC in 2012
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r0drig0lac
that fouls? gs players can hack all the time without any whistle, looks like OKC in 2012
Do their backups get the same treatment? KA's foul drawing may be his best skill.
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BillMc
Do their backups get the same treatment? KA's foul drawing may be his best skill.
yes, what is more strange, things that would normally be whistled fouls with them is just great defense, as never hit the hand of the attacker
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r0drig0lac
that fouls? gs players can hack all the time without any whistle, looks like OKC in 2012
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BillMc
Do their backups get the same treatment? KA's foul drawing may be his best skill.
He hasn't even been as aggressive as we know he can be. Pop hasn't used him properly and teammates were not looking for him early in the season, in spots that he could be succesful. He was the 5th option in the bench and many times he's had mismatches and they ignored him. I think they didn't know how to play with him and the mentality of getting open shots and not forcing the issue made him passive. One of his best assets is precisely that he can make all sorts of shots while guarded or draw a foul. He doesn't need to get clean of anyone. Between posting up, and a jumper that most guys can't block and that is really deadly, Pop was not using KA well at all. Do not be suprised if Manu retires and all of a sudden he looks like MIP next season.
Pop had him as a spot up shooter early in the season. That was not and is not his best skill. He's precisely better when you let him play his game, which he's done all garbage time to the tune of over 50% shooting, posting up, drawing fouls and a smooth jumper that you can't really block.
I like Simmons a lot, but Anderson is very crafty and Pop has not used him properly this season. It's really unfair to compare them when one guy was encouraged to flourish and play his game, while the other was parked in a corner most of the time, which was not his best asset.
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SAGirl
Patty is near unplayable against the Clippers since Austin Rivers owns him.
I expect Livingston will be a problem. Like you I think one of Manu/Simmons/Kyle will have to be on him and if Pop is experiment mode, maybe Simmons/Kyle specially will see time. I don't know what you do with Patty. By the way, let Kyle post him up and give him some of his own medicine. :lol
You put Patty on Barbosa
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BillMc
This is a little off topic but as I am watching the Dubs beat up the Bulls, I wonder who we will use to guard Livingston off the bench? He's too tall for Patty. We'll have to put Manu, Simmons or Kyle on him. Dubs are using his size on Chicago's undersized backup guards, and posting him up a ton.
Manu and Simmons no problem.
With Manu, you simply have to be ready to pull him if he is having one of his Alzheimers nights.
Something Popped has been unwilling to do, but at least he gets a quicker hook this year compared to others. Simmons has been very good, would not hesitate to implement him.
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SAGirl
He hasn't even been as aggressive as we know he can be. Pop hasn't used him properly and teammates were not looking for him early in the season, in spots that he could be succesful. He was the 5th option in the bench and many times he's had mismatches and they ignored him. I think they didn't know how to play with him and the mentality of getting open shots and not forcing the issue made him passive. One of his best assets is precisely that he can make all sorts of shots while guarded or draw a foul. He doesn't need to get clean of anyone. Between posting up, and a jumper that most guys can't block and that is really deadly, Pop was not using KA well at all. Do not be suprised if Manu retires and all of a sudden he looks like MIP next season.
Pop had him as a spot up shooter early in the season. That was not and is not his best skill. He's precisely better when you let him play his game, which he's done all garbage time to the tune of over 50% shooting, posting up, drawing fouls and a smooth jumper that you can't really block.
I like Simmons a lot, but Anderson is very crafty and Pop has not used him properly this season. It's really unfair to compare them when one guy was encouraged to flourish and play his game, while the other was parked in a corner most of the time, which was not his best asset.
Good post. If Kyle really will be Manu's replacement, then I hope we get to see a lot more of him running the second team on nights Manu sits out this year.
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Inside out can be done with small ball and be effective with the right players. The Spurs have played inside out with a small lineup lots of times with a 4-out, 1-in motion offense. FYI
Boris makes for an effective pivot for the Spurs.
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Solid D
Inside out can be done with small ball and be effective with the right players. The Spurs have played inside out with a small lineup lots of times with a 4-out, 1-in motion offense. FYI
Boris makes for an effective pivot for the Spurs.
Thanks for saying that because your're right about Boris (and West) being a good example of inside- out not being exclusive for big ball. I tend to think LMA/ Tim aka bigs when I think 4- out.
